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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Fed-Ex delivered again!
My Adamas Collector 2008-5 arrived in pristine condition and since the weather co-operated, I have photos! What a Guitar! The sound is best described in one word: BALLANCED! Acoustically it sounds wonderful: very responsive and yet it has a distinct voice: less bass than the 1688 and a bit less volume than the #47 RI but it is so sweet: strummed, picked, or finger style, this is a killer guitar! I played it for an hour as soon as I took it out of the case: and I love the contour bowl! Very distinguished looks and appointments: i love the walnut grain in the neck and look at the headstock and heel photo's to see how beautiful it is! I have not had a chance to plug it in as yet: I know it will sound fabulous with the VIP 5, and yet it may be Friday before I have a chance as I have meetings and appointments Wednesday and Thursday that will keep me away from home! I am going to set up my PA and give it a go and will add my impressions then. In the meantime: enjoy the pictures and if you haven't put a preorder in yet: Give Al a call and do so ASAP. I got to go: there is a "secret agent" calling my name: 007, at your service!
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Location: Warren,Pa. | I like the way they've beveled the inside of the slots. I wrap my strings right to the outside of the post and still a couple touch the headstock. Very thoughtful touch. John <>{ |
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Location: south east Michigan | If I was stubborn, old, and set in my ways I would say without the skunk-strip, it's not an Ovation. But I'm not.
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Very Nice Mike...Congrats !!
Intriguing shape that bowl has, is it still/more comfortable to hold ?
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Location: Cicero, NY | That's a beauty, Mike. Nice grab. One question tho' - where's your snow?
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Actually with the new Contour Bowl, it is much more comfortable to hold: and no more "it slips off of my lap" excuses!
I have played it now for another hour: this is such a fine playing and sounding guitar: It is complex as well as balanced: it actually has different voices depending on where you contact the strings: most guitars do that to a degree but this one does it in a remarkable and beautiful way: I think its something you have to hear to appreciate! Beggin said it all: WOW! |
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Location: Australia | Beautiful Mike. I'd seen a pic of that guitar but I thought it wouldn't be released until NAMM.
It looks great and the gold on the binding and in the fingerboard inlays seems to be applied thicker and look "golder" than on my #47. |
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Location: Orlando, FL | Beautiful Mike. Congrats! |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by MusicMike:
Actually with the new Contour Bowl, it is much more comfortable to hold: and no more "it slips off of my lap" excuses! BINGO. |
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Location: South of most, North of few | Very nice Mike! I thought it had the "suspension ring" from the earlier pictures, but now I see it's trim on the top. I really like the headstock. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | I thought it had the "suspension ring" from the earlier pictures, but now I see it's trim on the top.  |
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Location: NJ | Y'know . . . (and y'should also know how much this "pains" me to say this, but) . . that'd "reeel niiice" bein' played by some "hot" "C@ntryStar" . . . |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | You're right Cliff...Marcel Dadi would have absolutly loved it! |
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Location: NJ | . . not that I ever really considered ANY c@ntrystar t'be . . "hot" . . .
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Location: Chicago | That is simply OFF the charts. In a sense we are brothers in Adamas, as I'm learning my way around the 1581 which is, shall we say, a close cousin! Wow. Is it fair to ask what the actual $$ is? I saw in the other thread sort of 3K to 5K ballpark... |
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Location: Alberta, Canada | Very nice.
Definately looks like a guitar you could bond with! :) |
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Location: Vermont USA | Awesome! Just like God.
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Beautiful! Just like Hillery.
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...NO! :eek:
This is a non-political guitar!
Carry On!
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Location: Chicago | Dave: The blue 1581 Adamas I in your gallery is described as having a "growl": how does the 2007 collector's compare to this (both very similar construction)? |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | That was a 1581 Adamas II. Very nice sounding guitar. Paul Templeman now owns it, so maybe he can comment. I naver owned the 2007 reissue 1581 so I can't compare, but on paper they would seem similar.
The black 1587 Adamas I version was actually quite superior to the 1581. I have no idea why or how, but it was much more than a subtle difference. To this day, that 1587 was one of THE best sounding Adamas that I ever owned.
Personally, I'm hoping that this 08 Collector sounds like Jeff W.'s cutaway U681. THAT would please me a lot. As for the looks of the guitar, I'm not so impressed. But if it sounds like a $5000. list guitar then I can live with the looks.
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Location: Chehalis, Washington | Originally posted by Slipkid:
If I was stubborn, old, and set in my ways I would say without the skunk-strip, it's not an Ovation. But I'm not.
Not which...stubborn, old, or set in your ways? :D
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | FYI: Jerome had the high def images on his site: Link to Ovation Tribute Page/Jerome\'s Site
Don't worry Dave, it'll grow on ya!
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | BTW: I see several are trying to figure out how the guitar sounds: if you have seen the Jean Felix Lalanne/Marcel Dadi concert film from the Olympic Theatre and heard Marcel's Slothead (the cream one) THAT is as close to describing the sound of this guitar as I can get!
Is it the sound of a $5000 guitar? Apparently so, since Kaman has decided on that as the Retail Price for this model. In my opinion, it is!
As for the looks, well thats purely personal preference and again, for me, its reflective of the price! It looks like a tuxedo ready for a night out at the Met! Some don't like opera! There's only a hundred worldwide to go around so I'm sure they will find good homes!
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Location: Tennessee | Nice guitar ... it proves the Adamas custom shop can put out a very nice product, high quality, and the market will end up rewarding them with a nice price point.
This configuration isn't my cup of tea. I really prefer the traditional Ovation peghead design, and have never been a fan of the way Ovation slotheads look ... except for those with the broccoli head, for whatever reason that whole look is so right. This whole guitar just seems sort of incongruous - like they did a mix and match of greatest hits in Adamas guitars into this one model. I understand why they picked all these elements in the guitar, but all the pieces just don't come together as a whole into a guitar that even whispers my name. I know ... it's the sound that matters (but you pretty much know what you're going to get from an Adamas), and for $5K you want it to be pretty, to yourself anyway.
I can see how all these custom shop level features can turn out one heck of a guitar, and there are people with a lot better taste than I that are fawning over this. I hope they easily move 100 units at $5K each. Maybe they'll figure out a way to make a run of 100 Qs next year. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Bobbo, with your level of talent, you would make it talk! Seriously! Wish you were coming to Amelia! Have a great holidays! ;) |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I'm just wondering if they'll really sell 100 of them. It's a great and beautiful guitar no question about that, and everything that follow is just personl opinion ... BUT, what keeps running through my head is that any way you slice it, this is guitar will have certain "compromises" to everyones definition of a "dream guitar". Well, of course that's true you'll NEVER satisfy everyone. Hypothetical examples some won't like the contour bowl, some will wish it was 1-7/8 neck, some wich it wasn't black, etc. Personally I don't like the headstock, epaulets, tuners or snotblob. Don't get me wrong, people will buy this because it's appearently a GREAT instrument and they'll accept the compromise.
But should they? For $5000. should you compromise? or should you just get a custom to the exact specifiications that you want? Tough call. Upon hearing about this guitar, one of my very best friends who's opinion I respect a lot emailed me and said "It looks nice but for that kind of money wouldn't be better to get exactly what you want?"
Don't get me wrong, this is a nice unit as is and I'm not trying to rain on the parade. I just really wonder if 100 people will make such a compromise at this price level. When for similar money you could get exactly what you want. I'm thinking about Tom_CA's custom for example. It's not that different than a regular OFC guitar. The easy thing would have been for him to compromise a little, save 6 months, and get an OFC guitar. For for similar money he got EXACTLY what he wanted. Makes me think ...
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Location: Munich, Germany | Absolutely right.
As far as I apreciate the idea of an Adamas Collector's - and the return of the textured top in a "regular" model - who buys this guitar?
The regular GC customer won't pay that amount for a guitar like this. The OFC member and Adamas connaisseur probably will - but with knowing that he could order a guitar built to his wishes through Al for nearly the same money - he probably won't.
A guitar like this would have been a great idea two years ago - and would have been sold as easy as the UTE, the #47 and the two reissues did, but with introducing the Adamas Custom shop it is a risky experiment.
Anyway, it sure is a beautiful and great guitar that shows some new ideas (e.g. the black/gold binding) and my congrats go to Mike and Leslie.
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by MusicMike:
Bobbo, with your level of talent, you would make it talk! Seriously! Wish you were coming to Amelia! Have a great holidays! ;) He is (or at least he was). |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Just wait until you play it! Negative, Negative, Negative...$5000 seems to be the real problem...Thats just the suggested retail: it will sell for much less...I bought mine for way less than 5 large! In any case, I love mine and I have no doubt many other players will as well! Even some who are not actually players! It think its beautiful and at least its made in the USA which can't be said for certain other brands...JMO though. I really don't think the opinion of the OFC affects the bottom line here: if you don't like it, no one is twisting your arm to get one? This is a company with a lot of distribution points and dealerships! A whole lot!
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Location: Chicago | Paul Templeman now owns it, so maybe he can comment. I naver owned the 2007 reissue 1581 so I can't compare, but on paper they would seem similar.
The black 1587 Adamas I version was actually quite superior to the 1581. Paul T: As I recall, I was looking at a 1587 on ebay and your advice was, NO! By all means seek out a 1581 ("for your style"). I have done just that and am quite pleased. Interesting how perceptions vary. Could this be a matter of approach to the guitar? |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Perhaps what Paul was referring to was the fact that the 1587 version is double epaulets vs. the 1581 is single. But I owned them at the same time and quite frankly it wasn't even close.
This was a unique situation. For reasons I can not explain, this particular 1587 had something very special about it. To this day, that specific 1587 was the best sounding Adamas guitar that I ever owned. Think about that for a moment ...
Selling that guitar was a big mistake.
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | I agree with Tupp. If I'm hankerin' for a specific guitar with specific features, which I do from time to time, then I am better off just ordering it as a custom and pay a little extra in order to obtain exactly what I want. That said, when ordering custom stuff from the Ovation/Adamas/Hamer lines, I haven't found the custom prices all that far out of line. I think this speaks more to Al and his unselfish willingness to provide value to his customers. Your mileage, of course, may vary. |
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Location: Tennessee | Originally posted by The Wabbit Formerly Known As Waskel:
Originally posted by MusicMike:
Bobbo, with your level of talent, you would make it talk! Seriously! Wish you were coming to Amelia! Have a great holidays! ;) He is (or at least he was). |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | I like the looks. I like the limited edition.
I am sure I will like the sound.
Price is in line with a custom and I don't have to wait 6-9 months.
If I decide to sell it after a while and move on to something else, it won't be the first (or last) time I have sold an expensive or ltd ed guitar.
I feel it is better to grab one of the few available that to sit back on the sidelines and "wish" I hadn't procrastinated. Then I have the luxury of time to really get to know it and love it or sell it off and try something new!
In my mind with the old style top and contour body, this one will always rank up there as one of the 1st really special ones (like slotheads/#47RI/OFC). |
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Location: Chehalis, Washington | I don't think they'll have a problem moving them. Yes, you could buy a nice used 1581 on ebay for around 1500, but there's nothing especially rare or unique about it. For a limited run of 100, the street price won't be too out of line at all.
Personally, I love the looks, setup...the whole package. If I was in the next income bracket up, I'd already have one ordered. The only thing stopping me at this point is actually having the $3500 that I assume will end up being the street price in hand. That, and I just committed almost exactly the same amount for a custom-build wood box that I've been saving up for.
I don't see this as a "compromise" of Adamas features at all, but rather a really nice blend of some of the best of what Adamas has done, combined with the top new technology. It'll go. This just jumped to the top of my Adamas wish list, above the UTE or #47 - it's just the right setup for me. |
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Location: SoCal | I've stayed out of this discussion. The last time I voiced an honest opinion on somebody's guitar, I alienated that owner and half the board.
I think this guitar will easily sell 100 units and ought to make each and every owner happy. It will sound and play great and I'm pleased that Ovation finally came out with an Adamas for a collectors.
But this guitar doesn't speak to me and I have no desire to own one. The older I get the more I want to go back to years past and order up an acoustic only, wood topped, center hole guitar. Maybe in 2008 (assuming the company is still there) Al and I will do some business (nobody else I'd buy a new Ovation from)..... |
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Location: Scotland | Originally posted by dobro:
Paul Templeman now owns it, so maybe he can comment. I naver owned the 2007 reissue 1581 so I can't compare, but on paper they would seem similar.
The black 1587 Adamas I version was actually quite superior to the 1581.
Paul T: As I recall, I was looking at a 1587 on ebay and your advice was, NO! By all means seek out a 1581 ("for your style"). I have done just that and am quite pleased. Interesting how perceptions vary. Could this be a matter of approach to the guitar?
I have a Dave's 1581, an early 1689 and the 47. The all have similar characters but at the same time all sound different. I would not say that any of the 3 were "superior" to the others. To be quite honest the only thing that makes me pick up one over the other at home is the condition of the strings.
As for the 08 collectors, I'm sure it sounds stunning, but visually the black/gold mounting ring just doesn't work for me. |
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Location: Germany | I've never realized that the contour bowl has no rear door. How do you access the electronics?
Someone stated here that it will sell well overseas. I can't say anything about the Japanese market but I doubt that a lot of them can be sold in Europe. To be attractive for the Dadi fingerpickers the neck is not wide enough. And we don't have so many hardcore Ovation collector's over here who are willing to pay a vast amount of money for a guitar which must be a compromise in terms of esthetics for a potential buyer. You must take into consiceration that we have 20-30% higher market prices due to customs duties.
That was quite different with the #47RI which appealed the emotions. The Collector's 2008 lacks of this factor.
Anyway, congratulations to the owners. I'm sure it sounds awesome.
And thanks to the factory for this model. Now I have some nice ideas for ...... well, we'll see.
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by Charlie Ramon:
I've never realized that the contour bowl has no rear door. How do you access the electronics?
Good question, Karl!
 
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Charlie Ramon:
I've never realized that the contour bowl has no rear door. How do you access the electronics? Standard plastic contour bowls on single soundhole guitars do NOT have an access hatch.
Standard plastic contour bowls on multi hole guitars DO have an access hatch.
Hand laid contour bowls do NOT have an access hatch.
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Location: SoCal | Always hesitant to express an opinion unless I am laying my money on the table.
However, the ONLY reason I am not considering is that I have the U681T, the 47RI and the OFC...means that I am broke!
Personally, I think they made an awesome instrument...top of the line pre-amp, 1st example of a production contour bowl for an Adamas, cutaway, etc. No question in my mind as far as playability. Far better package for the stage or studio performer.
And, if any are left by NAMM, I would expect the dealers (domestic and foreign) to close them out.
OFC does influence the market as there are pictures, comments, and reviews. We saw it in the 47RI and some of the other Ovation/Adamas reissues. I believe that the OFC helped push the production numbers of the 47RI up due to excess demand. Even the 30th Anniv CL - I know of one San Diego dealer who told me a couple of the CL's sold to buyers who had seen it on the OFC.
Hint to the factory - would be better for the bottom line to give us pictures and description prior to shipping, not after. Our membership are fanatics from all over the world. Where else can you have FREE ADVERTISING. |
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Location: Munich, Germany | I know of another forum where this is done. Where the forum members are asked for their wishes for guitars to come in the future. And future limited editions are pronounced early enough to see how they are appreciated.
Clever from the marketing side, yes, but it also gives the customer a warm feeling of being recognized and integrated in the process. You do not just feel like a number that either buys or not.
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by Tupperware:
Originally posted by Charlie Ramon:
I've never realized that the contour bowl has no rear door. How do you access the electronics? Standard plastic contour bowls on single soundhole guitars do NOT have an access hatch.
Standard plastic contour bowls on multi hole guitars DO have an access hatch.
Hand laid contour bowls do NOT have an access hatch.
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Location: closely held secret | Of course you can pop out the preamp. How do you fix a broken brace? What if you lose the lead to the pickup inside? How do you fix a loose wire on the the output jack? For that matter, considering the issues they've had with the VIP, how do you change out the XLR CB? |
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Location: Scotland | The can slot must be big enough to work through for wiring, otherwise they couldn't get it in there in the first place. I guess with a custom jig it would be possible to clamp up a loose brace through the can slot too. They must have made contingency plans for such an occurance |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Paul Templeman:
The can slot must be big enough to work through for wiring, otherwise they couldn't get it in there in the first place. I believe they use a gerbil. Shave him, clip his nails, grease him up and shove him in through the sound hole. Once inside he works his magic.
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I forget why I did it but, I popped the can out of the UTE once. You did WHAT to my guitar you ba$+a*d? |
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| I know no breathing, vaguely sentient creature is safe around him, but to think he violated my favourite guitar.... My eyes water to think what he might be doing to that 47RI and the custom ute alone up there in the hills. For pity's sake somebody go and rescue them.
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. . . It does this whenever It's told . . . . ." |
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| Wow. Three whole pages before this thread wound up in the toilet with pooped, shaved gerbils. What's wrong with you guys? This would normally happen after the first 6 or 7 posts. The Holiday season gettin' to ya, Cliff?
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Location: NJ | ". . I never thought my 400th post would be about poopy gerbils . ."
so, you've exceeded your expectations, then??
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so, you've exceeded your expectations, then??
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Witko is in Boise currently, which probably has something to do with the gerbils. On second thought, he's weird wherever he is. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Geez but you guy's crack me up! I laughed so hard at the posts added since this early morning that I almost blew my injection back out the tiny hole in my neck! Great stuff: Uhh, Dave, you do understand the meaning behind a shaved gerbil....don't you? If not, somebody break it too him: Paul, you’re sure to know: don't break his heart....
JimBo thanks for asking: yes, I made it through the procedure; it will be tomorrow before I really know; there is always a spike in pain from the added pressure of the liquid steroid: the good news is that both Doctors say mine is the classic case for being helped big time by what I went through this morning! Bad news is the raise in my blood sugar will be significant for three days...can't be helped: I just have to test more frequently....but it beats a cervical fusion.....
Had a great talk with Woz (Tom) today and for those who don't know it: Tom is responsible for my falling in love with Adamas guitars by loaning me the 1688 Holy Grail at the tour in May...I can never thank him enough...Why it took 33 years to be able to play one is a good question we can add to the other questions we'd like to ask the management (current and former)....but I am glad I finally did: Rest assured that this guitar is not going anywhere: I have found my ultimate Adamas backed up with a fantastic trio: 1983 1685-8; 1988 1688-5; and 2007 1187-247-2 #87 of 87! It will be available anywhere I get together with OFC friends; at my performances; and for those who are wandering through S.W. Virginia, drop in and see for yourselves (advance notice if possible please!)
Only one issue I'd suggest to the Company: why not make a case that actually fits the contour bowl? The 9158 is made for a round back...the contour sits up accordingly on the bass side which makes the case close only with extra effort! Just my .02 Cent gripe!
As to the access w/ no rear access panel: of course you can go through the electronics hole...these are built like a tank...doubt any ribs will be coming loose (could happen, but ask Cliff when that happened to his original slothead...)
One more thing...the remark I made about OFC not being an influence (or however i said it: it was at around 5 am; I was in pain (serious pain); and I did not mean it in the way it came out...of course we are an influence...but for every one of us...think of how many more are not OFC and the potential buying power there. Al's limited edition runs are genius! I mean it! Brilliant! Maybe this is a case of the big dog learning from the pup (sorry big guy, no slight intended or given); which begs the question why isn't more respect given to Al by the Co. and that is the point that Tony and several others are making and I totally agree: in a perfect world that is how it would be. In case no one's noticed, this is not a perfect world! Al is always there for us and even tho we sometimes let him down (abet unintentionally), he is still ready to help and do and represent us to the Co. For that I say a big "Thanks Al"! And I for one believe it is going to get much better! But that’s me: usually optimistic! Se la vie!
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Location: Vermont USA | The good news if I'm crazy, and I am. I'm not alone.
Thnks Everyone and a special thanks to the bald gerbil
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | 
Rock On! Lemmewinks... |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Uh, Paul I only ment that because of what you do for a living: you probably have info about that...just in case someone reads something unintended into that ....Lets see how would Cliff say it: "F@$k*%g Gerbils"!
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Jeff: :D :D :D |
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Location: SoCal | We have a lot of lurkers out there, some in guitar stores. I have been told by local GC and GuitarTrader employees that they check this board.
In addition, a Google search for Adamas Collector comes up with this: CLICK |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Mike, glad to hear you are on the road to recovery. I am sure Dave understands gerbils and anything else kinky.
Finally, don't worry about insulting anyone on this board. Your posts are so long nobody reads them anyway. |
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Location: SoCal | Reads what? |
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| How long are your sermons? |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | 20 min. -> tops!
"The mind can only absorb what the posterior can endure"!
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Location: big island | Originally posted by MusicMike:
"The mind can only absorb what the posterior can endure"!
;) ooooo...you'll be sorry for that one
shades of ooga booga |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Not my quote...not sure whose...maybe Dave's... maybe not...lol! |
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Location: big island | i've heard it in church before. i just think it's a risky quote when jeff w is sittin' in the pew. |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | I was barred from all religious institutions and Keynote speeches for experimenting with the parameters of that statement years ago. |
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Location: Cicero, NY | Originally posted by Jeff W.:
I was barred from all religious institutions and Keynote speeches for experimenting with the parameters of that statement years ago. ...and commtted to other institutions for the same reason I'll bet. |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | "Paging Dr. Kinsey" |
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Location: big island | you guys are a hoot! |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Is this thread looping around and back to the Dan Fogelberg, "get your prostate checked" thread? |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Mark, Step away from the keyboard and go entertain your guests. Btw, your weather absolutely sucks. Dave |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | We need the rain. The local ski area opens tomorrow and my daughters are going up. It's free.
I just spent a couple hours hiding out in the basement. I couldn't stand any more Fox "news". I can see people yelling at each other when I go to work. I might even like it less than reality TV. I don't think our relatives noticed my absence.
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Location: Rego Park, NY, | Put the Fu@kin' lotion in the basket!! |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | I woke up this morning for the first time in nearly 4 months with absolutely no neck pain...I also have no noise in my ears when I turn my neck for the first time in several years. I can't tell you all what a relief this is! It may not be a permanent cure but I'll take it! Thanks for all the PM's, calls, and good wishes on this forum. I truly appreciate it!
I sat down last evening and did a side to side comparison with the #47 and the 2008-5...Both are awesome; but they are different guitars. The 08-5 is probably the more performance oriented of the two: with the VIP and the balanced acoustic sound, the cutaway and contour bowl, added together make for a great performing guitar ( I have a concert coming up, so I'll discover for myself and report); The #47 RI is simply an elegant guitar! Not to say the 08-5 is not but the difference can be found in the first strum of a chord. The #47 is in a class by itself...no other 6 string Ovation or Adamas guitar that I have owned or experienced comes anywhere near to the sound of this guitar (your mileage may vary)! Being acoustic will require a good mic setup for live app's but for more personal intimate settings, this is off the charts! I love them both and both are permanent members of my guitar household. It's an awesome feeling to be able to sit down with two guitars like this and know thy are both yours! I'm a fortunate man! In many respects, and for those who decided not to read this post, it's cool: I just had to say "Thanks to All"! |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | A relief indeed. Hope you stay uncrinkled.
... ah yes, the 47... |
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Location: CT | Originally posted by MusicMike:
The 9158 is made for a round back...the contour sits up accordingly on the bass side which makes the case close only with extra effort! Just my .02 Cent gripe!
:rolleyes: You'll want to keep a rag or cloth in the case to wipe the neck down after a gig, right? Leave it under the contour of the bowl, then the guitar will fit better. |
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Location: Utah | Originally posted by MusicMike:
I woke up this morning for the first time in nearly 4 months with absolutely no neck pain... That's great, Mike. I sure hope it stays pain free for you. |
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Location: Simpsonville, SC | Glad for ya brother! Hopefully golf in Amelia in March will be in order. |
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