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cliff
Posted 2007-12-22 11:33 AM (#69017)
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With TwoManGroup coming to an end (t'nite),
I've (finally) gotten around to getting my webpage up & running . . .

It's VERY "basic", and there's still a lot that's "Under Construction", but I just wanted to have SOMETHING available for potential gigs to refer to. I'll have it more "updated" after the Holidays.

There's a couple mp3's on there as well.
Again, REAL "basic" shit that I've had lying around, and that'll probably be the first thing that I'll try to update, but I just wanted t'have something "there".
There's even a bit of a "Christmas-type" tune (that'll stay on there for the next few days) that didn't quite make it onto last year's Christmas CD that I did.

It's a start . . .


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Beggin
Posted 2007-12-22 11:52 AM (#69018 - in reply to #69017)
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Good luck on your final night together, cliff!
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Captain Lovehandles
Posted 2007-12-22 12:16 PM (#69019 - in reply to #69017)
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"News and BIO information will eventually be located here"... that's a good one!

That's a good start. I'm sure Takamine appreciates the publicity.

What I mean is... good luck.
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Northcountry
Posted 2007-12-22 12:20 PM (#69020 - in reply to #69017)
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Nice Cliff; You remind me that I am so far behind the times. I listened to Wrapped Around your Finger, very nice! Anyone who can do this this well is a very good soloist, I struggle with Mr.Summers (if I spelled it right) work all the time, his music is often tough to sing and play.

Keep going on this its got a professional look already.


Randy
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Jeff W.
Posted 2007-12-22 1:03 PM (#69021 - in reply to #69017)
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Thanks for providing phone numbers for the venues.
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cliff
Posted 2007-12-22 1:08 PM (#69022 - in reply to #69017)
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dick.
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lanaki
Posted 2007-12-22 1:08 PM (#69023 - in reply to #69017)
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very nice cliff. your demos sound great too.
best of luck with your new venture.
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Jérôme
Posted 2007-12-22 1:34 PM (#69024 - in reply to #69017)
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It's a very good start !!!
I love the Police's song mp3... :)

J :)
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stephent28
Posted 2007-12-22 1:40 PM (#69025 - in reply to #69017)
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Very cool.
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dobro
Posted 2007-12-22 2:00 PM (#69026 - in reply to #69017)
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You did a great job on one of my favorite tunes: Joni Mitchell's "River"! Great website with a sense of humor!!
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Steve
Posted 2007-12-22 2:30 PM (#69027 - in reply to #69017)
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Cliff is that a 1767 your playin' on the schedule page? Identical to mine...
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cliff
Posted 2007-12-22 2:35 PM (#69028 - in reply to #69017)
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Weaser P
Posted 2007-12-22 3:34 PM (#69029 - in reply to #69017)
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Originally posted by Jeff W.:
Thanks for providing phone numbers for the venues.
:D :D
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cliff
Posted 2007-12-22 3:40 PM (#69030 - in reply to #69017)
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Well, you can guess what the FIRST "update" will be . . .
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stephent28
Posted 2007-12-22 3:44 PM (#69031 - in reply to #69017)
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Pictures of Jeff getting his ass kicked???
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Weaser P
Posted 2007-12-22 4:49 PM (#69032 - in reply to #69017)
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And will you be posting the video of that on the site or will we have to order it...?
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Andrea
Posted 2007-12-22 4:57 PM (#69033 - in reply to #69017)
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Loved the singing and the arrangements, made me want to work out "wrapped around your finger " but its like the voice aint caught up with the face yet, if i shut my eyes and listened , well id picture you 20 years younger , good luck with it all , "Under Construction, Sorry " will be the imagined title of my auto biography that will never be written for obvious reasons
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cliff
Posted 2007-12-22 5:43 PM (#69034 - in reply to #69017)
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". . its like the voice aint caught up with the face yet . ."

Thanks (I think) . . .
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2007-12-22 5:47 PM (#69035 - in reply to #69017)
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Just photoshop the gray out, Cliff, and you'll be fine. I would need to add some hair, but I think I'll just start wearing a hat all the time. Maybe wear it sideways with my pants down around my boxers. Learn some power chords and I'll be all set.
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stephent28
Posted 2007-12-22 6:20 PM (#69036 - in reply to #69017)
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Cliff, I assume you used Cubase.

Did you record everything in a single pass or lay down the guitar tracks and then overdub the vocals?
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Northcountry
Posted 2007-12-22 8:06 PM (#69037 - in reply to #69017)
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I'll bet there's a few things that have not caught up to your face yet Cliff.

:cool:
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an4340
Posted 2007-12-22 9:28 PM (#69038 - in reply to #69017)
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My wife is now one of your fans, and I've been told that I really really should learn desperado. She also says that you have a nice "refined" voice.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2007-12-23 1:30 AM (#69039 - in reply to #69017)
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I never told Cliff this, and I know he doesn't read most of what I type, so he'll never see this... but for those that haven't heard Cliff sing , check his stuff out.

There are a lot of people THAT sing, a lot of people CAN sing, a few people sing that shouldn't... then there are those like Cliff who just IS a singer. He's got a great voice, great range, great control and he doesn't sound like he's trying to sing like anyone else. Just natural talent that's a pleasure to listen to.

And no he didn't pay me to type this. I just got to thinking that most times when I have seen him, including how I met him, focus is always on that great slotted headstock guitar he plays. I think sometimes the interest that many of us have in that guitar, justified as it may be, overshadows his talent as a singer.

Anyway... I just wanted to say that, especially now that he has some samples up to listen to, check it out. You'll be glad you did.
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-12-23 1:50 AM (#69040 - in reply to #69017)
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That was Miles way of saying "Cliff's guitar playing sorta sucks."

No, seriously I'm in 100% agreement. Cliff can just flat out SING (and play). I've had the opportunity to jam with him a few times and even play once or twice in psuedo-public and it is always a pleasure just to hear him.

Dave (the anti-crooner)
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2007-12-23 2:25 AM (#69041 - in reply to #69017)
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I sang with him once, and even though it started raining in the middle, the lyrics washed away, I was tired, and I didn't know the song half as well as I thought, sun was in my eyes, ball was too big, glove too small, dog ate my homework.. etc...

I would not have missed it for the world.
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Tom_CA
Posted 2007-12-23 3:35 AM (#69042 - in reply to #69017)
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I like it Cliff, great Job!

Tom
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cliff
Posted 2007-12-23 3:55 AM (#69043 - in reply to #69017)
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"Last" gig was a LOT of Fun!!!!
I think the biggest "kick" was that we BOTH had that "I Don't Give a Sh!t, Anymore" attitude and we just played our Asses off!!! A lot of people (Jeanette included said that we were "Locked "ON" "

It was good to have that particular chapter end on a "high note" (if you will).
ThankYou John B. fer comin' out!!!!

The place we played had a Class of '97 HS Reunion, and let's just say we didn't "disturb" their party in the least . . . a GoodTime was had by All, and we were able to "end it" at a venue that we always enjoyed playing as it's a family-run business that always treats US like family.
LastNight/ThisMorning was definitely a "highlight" in all the years I've been doing this "MusoShite".

ThankYou! Miles & David.
I'm somewhat taken aback by all of you KindWords and non-deserving compliments.
I guess if there's anything I can say that I've "blessed" with, it's the ability to "carry" a tune (and sometimes "throw" it).
It's something I've always enjoyed doing, and it's something that I'm Thankful that I'm STILL able to "do" (despite how "aged" Andrea finds my face).
I have to admit,. . . it's still "Fun".

I have the basic "sketch" done of my very first original tune & I'll get it posted (providing that Jeanette - who STILL as yet to HEAR it - deems it suitable for "Public Consumption") when its "ready". ManyThanks to UncahBeal for inspiring me to "JustDoIT!"
(Yes T, I'm layering multiple tracks, z'here something I should "know"?? . . .)

While I look back on the last 7 years with great fondness, I think that the Next7 will hopefully prove t'be even MORE "Fun" . . .

ThxAgain!
(for making it "fun")
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cliff
Posted 2007-12-23 4:07 AM (#69044 - in reply to #69017)
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True Story:

HalfWay thru the FirstSet, this guy walks up to us (two old guys with ACOUSTIC guitars), and asks:

". . d'You Guys play any Kanye West?? . . ."

(y'can't "write" this sh!t)
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Andrea
Posted 2007-12-23 7:02 AM (#69045 - in reply to #69017)
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Do you ?
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Captain Lovehandles
Posted 2007-12-23 7:29 AM (#69046 - in reply to #69017)
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That's great that it went well, and that you had a ball. I'm sure you did Kanye proud.
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CrimsonLake
Posted 2007-12-23 7:43 AM (#69047 - in reply to #69017)
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Cliff - congratulations on going out in style! I'm sorry that I missed seeing you (at least in that "atmosphere") - I really wanted to make it to one of the last shows. One of my favorite holiday songs is your version of "Olde City Bar" from the OFC CD. I had it on the iPod for my trip to France. Good luck in wherever the journey takes you next and I'll see you in Amelia in March.
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John B
Posted 2007-12-23 9:02 AM (#69048 - in reply to #69017)
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I would have to agree with Jeanette that TMG was very much "locked in" last night. At one point, Jeanette leaned over and said "they really are good together, aren't they?". They are both good people, and I know that Cliff will be great at whatever he decides to do. I would like to say the same for Rick, but he's going to be playing with me part time, so he will probably not do so well. I think he's just using me for my PA, but that's another story. LOL. Anyway, congrats to Cliff and Rick for going out on a high note. Well done!

BTW .. Cliff's line of night "My name is Cliff, and this is Rick, we are TwoManGroup. If you would like to see us again, you're sh*t outta luck".
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Beal
Posted 2007-12-23 9:22 AM (#69049 - in reply to #69017)
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Hey Cliff,
Is that a D-18 in that picture of you? I have one just like that.
Congrats on the last gig and moving on. You ready to book into the Frickin Mermaid?
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2007-12-23 12:34 PM (#69050 - in reply to #69017)
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Congrats on the end of an era. Like anything where people are envious of your "natural" talent, I'm sure it's the result of tons of practice. The work isn't hard if you enjoy it. The face just reflects your experience.
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cliff
Posted 2007-12-23 12:50 PM (#69051 - in reply to #69017)
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". . Is that a D-18 in that picture of you? I have one just like that . ."

If y'mean the picture (from your back deck) on the "Music" page, no that's Cheryl's Gibby J-Fiddy that Willy fixed, r'member??.

I fear that I'll need slightly more than ONE original tune t'carry a night at the Mermaid . . I'm workin' on it . . .

Boy, am I "stiff"(and "hoarse") this morning.
But it's a "good" hurt . . .
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cliff
Posted 2007-12-23 12:53 PM (#69052 - in reply to #69017)
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Jeez, . . izzit "afternoon", alREADY?????

(coffee . . . . . need coffee . . . )
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fillhixx
Posted 2007-12-23 12:58 PM (#69053 - in reply to #69017)
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Before this all I had as an example of Cliffs voice was the the Youtube posting of Freddy & the Fishsticks. I couldn't see what so many of you were on about. Man, that's a cool set of pipes!

Nice that you've at least kept THAT in shape over the years.

(yes, I have the OFC cds, but the F&tF thing always made me skip past Cliffs contributions. Now I have something to look forward to on the Christmas listenin' list.)
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Weaser P
Posted 2007-12-23 3:12 PM (#69054 - in reply to #69017)
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"BTW .. Cliff's line of night "My name is Cliff, and this is Rick, we are TwoManGroup. If you would like to see us again, you're sh*t outta luck"."

Nice line, Cliff. Way to kick off the last night in style. :D
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Slipkid
Posted 2007-12-23 4:39 PM (#69055 - in reply to #69017)
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Very nice Cliff.
"Desperado" drew my wife over to the 'puter asking "Who's singing that??".
Very good on the Police song, too. You sounded rather... Stingy.
And just to prove that I'm not just trying to blow smoke hoping for some free advise at Amelia Island.... didn't care for the J. Mitchell thing. IMHO Cliff, your voice doesn't need all that processing.
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cliff
Posted 2007-12-23 5:09 PM (#69056 - in reply to #69017)
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Honestly, "River" was a throwaway. I didn't care it much for it either (that's why it didn't end up on the CD). . it was just "seasonal" . . . and lying around on my HardDrive . . .
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cliff
Posted 2007-12-23 6:00 PM (#69057 - in reply to #69017)
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y'know, . . this new-found ability of being able t'put sh!t on the Internet could prove t'be dangerous for me in the next couple months . . .
(btw: I highly recommend Yahoo! SiteBuilder.
Cheap&Easy(ShutUp,Witko!).

I found another "seasonal"-type tune that's more Adamas-oriented . . Slothead54(two different tunings) and the AdamasLongNeck.
CAUTION!:
Track also contains lots of annoying, screeching, "whistly-things" as well . . .
If memory serves, I believe there's even a Flute-O-Phone(remember THOSE?) in there, so lock all matters of canine life forms in the basement beforehand . . .

I need to invest in a proper pair of reference monitors, as I'm guilty of committing the CardinalSin of mixing in a pair of 25+ year old AKG K240 headphones (I know, I KNOW!) and my resultant mp3's are coming out boomy/muddy

Any suggestions would be appreciated . . .
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Weaser P
Posted 2007-12-23 6:09 PM (#69058 - in reply to #69017)
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"Don't?"
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cliff
Posted 2007-12-23 6:36 PM (#69059 - in reply to #69017)
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ah yes,

you and MasterJeffrey . . CharterMembers of the Brotherhood of the Dick . . .
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stephent28
Posted 2007-12-23 8:17 PM (#69060 - in reply to #69017)
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Cliff, give me a call or email me a budget and I can help you get set up on the cheap. Hell, I probably even got some stuff you can have or borrow.

You are about to enter a new stage of GAS!
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John B
Posted 2007-12-23 8:24 PM (#69061 - in reply to #69017)
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Cliff: If I may offer one suggestion, You may want to give your home page a "title". The page title is what is displayed at the top of the page. If you use internet explorer for example, the top of the screen displays "title - Windows Interner Explorer". It's also the name that is used to identify your page when it is bookmarked.
To give the page a title, just go to page properties, and enter a new title, save the page, and publish the changes. If you need any help, give me a call.
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Weaser P
Posted 2007-12-23 8:48 PM (#69062 - in reply to #69017)
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Originally posted by cliff:
ah yes,

you and MasterJeffrey . . CharterMembers of the Brotherhood of the Dick . . .
;)
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cliff
Posted 2007-12-23 9:59 PM (#69063 - in reply to #69017)
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John;
Thnx! . . I was thinking the same thing, & I'll do it next time I make changes . . .

T;
Yeah, I know . . .
:rolleyes:
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Waskel
Posted 2007-12-24 9:25 AM (#69064 - in reply to #69017)
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Nicely done, Cliff! The site has a nice look to it and the tracks are great.

Multi-tracking vocals came be a little challenging, eh? When it 'hits', it can add a lot of richness to a weaker voice (I did one where I multi-tracked 3 each, l,r and c, for 3 different parts) or if you're trying to build a 'wall' of voices (ala "And Your Bird Can Sing", or "Because").

My voice needs it.

Your voice has a fantastic timber and IMO just doesn't need it. I'd love to hear you do some close harmonies just behind and above the lead vocals though!

Again, very nice job! Keep us posted on updates!
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Posted 2007-12-24 11:39 AM (#69065 - in reply to #69017)
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Agreed, Cliff doesn't need all the verb present in the recording.....but it is a common error when people start recording themselves and think they need to mask the true sound (which again, Cliffy doesn't need to do).

Cliff, did you do your vocals wet or dry?

If dry, send me the raw Cubase files and let me play with mixing them a bit.
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cliff
Posted 2007-12-25 1:50 PM (#69066 - in reply to #69017)
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MerryChristmas t'All, & Thanks for all the input . .

one last "seasonal" toon before I dump 'em tomorrow.


Instrumental & I can't remember which guitars (tho I THINK it's the TakkyNylon, the LongNeck & Beal'sDuoTone(who was residing here at th'time).

Just heading out the door.
It's been an "interesting" couple days (Moron That Later).

Just wanted t'Wish everyon here a Joyous Festivus

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