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Joined: November 2007 Posts: 10
Location: Houston | I have two USA Ovations and an Applause Mandolin. How do Celebrity Ovations compare to Applause Ovations? |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 4903
Location: Phoenix AZ | That's far too broad of a question.
The best I can say is that it's like McDonalds vs. Burger King. One one hand they do taste kind of good. But on the other hand you'd be better off eating someplace else if you had a bit more money.
Personal opinion I'd give the nod to Applause. They are a little more unique, share more history with the USA models, and don't pretend to be something they are not. And some of them have cool pickguards. The only side by side comparison was when I owned Applause mando and Celeb mando at the same time and the Applause was a better instrument in my opinion.
Dave |
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Joined: November 2007 Posts: 10
Location: Houston | I appreciate the insight. I have an Applause mandolin that I love but never had any experience with the Celebrities. |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127
Location: 6 String Ranch | Not a ton of difference but if you have to choose follow Dave. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | I agree.
"follow Dave"
(except into the bathroom) |
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Joined: June 2006 Posts: 7307
Location: South of most, North of few | Originally posted by Tupperware:
The best I can say is that it's like McDonalds vs. Burger King. One one hand they do taste kind of good. But on the other hand you'd be better off eating someplace else if you had a bit more money.
Dave Great analogy, Dave! :D |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127
Location: 6 String Ranch | Like Wendy's? |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | OliveGarden. |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 4903
Location: Phoenix AZ | Cliff, you need to read the book "Fast Food Nation". It's really amazing to learn what is actually behind the fast food industry in the US and how it has decimated the independent cattle ranchers, potato growers, and produce suppliers. For example, to be a frozen french fry supplier to McD, you have to process the raw potatoes using specific equipment that has to be leased from (guess who?) McD. If you want to open a franchise, you need to lease the property and building from (you got it) McD. McD makes far more money in real estate than they do selling food. The average McD francise "owner" in the US works 88 hours per week and averages $32k gross. Think about that next time you pull up to the drive window in the rover and ponytail getting happy meals for the 2.2 children on their way home from xavier prep academy. Dave
PS - Olive Garden has really good garlic breadsticks. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | Dave;
D'ya ever listen to Mark Knopfler's "Boom, Like That" off his "Shangri-La" CD (GREAT CD, btw!)??
It's all about Ray Kroc & the development of MickeyD's . . .
I usually refer to them as McToilet, as the only time I'm EVER in one is when I'm on a long RoadTrip & have to "bleed my brakes" . . .
I prefer MacaroniGrille over O.G. . . .
. . . for a "chain", they at least have a decent "Guinee Red".
(and I like drawing on the tablecloths) |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 4903
Location: Phoenix AZ | I agree about MaciGrille. On my "to-do" list for 2008 is to take one of those paper tablecloths to the local art school and commission one of the students to paint an amazing watercolor scene. Then go to MaciGrille and roll it out on the table in the timespan between when the waiter takes our drink order and returns with the drinks. Leave an open set of paints on the table and be cleaning my brush in the water glass like I just got done painting the damn thing. I love to screw with peoples minds. Dave
PS - If you have such an adversion to Ray Kroc, you should stop buying his shoes. |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127
Location: 6 String Ranch | Yes, MacaroniGrill is the best of all mentioned. I haven't eaten at a McD in 25+ years. Wendy's and the King are OK but a subway is still better.
And I'll take Chowder Ted's or T-Ray's over all of them anyday. |
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Joined: October 2006 Posts: 5575
Location: big island | the franchise idea only works because people expect a certain and the same taste at each outlet. mcD's had to control everything for consistency. theirs is the franchise model. i despise their food but it is more consistent than the cleanliness of their bathrooms. |
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Joined: July 2007 Posts: 161
Location: Seoul, Korea | You guys are just amazin'! :eek:
How in the world did you end up with comparing QSRs (McD, Burger King, etc.) when the subject was Applause versus Celebrity! And then move on to sanitary conditions in the QSRs! Just Amazin'! Only thing missing was Moody saying "Bite Me!" :D
[Love this instant Graemlins!] |
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Joined: May 2003 Posts: 4389
Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | McD's serves bad food with no service. Never liked it. Ever. Supersize me, is probably the best movie I've seen on the topic.
I've had good food at Macigrill. Wait ... what's this topic about ...? Oh yeah, you don't have to worry in the bathroom, unless you get the hand signals and the wide stance from your neighbor. That means he owns a taylor. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | ". . How in the world did you end up with comparing QSRs (McD, Burger King, etc.) when the subject was Applause versus Celebrity! And then move on to sanitary conditions in the QSRs! . ."
It's what we DO here . . .
. . . you'll get used to it in time . . . |
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Joined: July 2007 Posts: 161
Location: Seoul, Korea | Rest my case! :cool: |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12755
Location: Boise, Idaho | McD's was the best food I found in England. I know the owners of the local franchises and they do much better than the supposed average. Each of their kids gets a new car every year that is worth more than the average.
As far as the bathrooms, Larry Craig is ours, dammit, quit trying to steal his now famous phrase. He was recently elected the naughtiest person of 2007, even over Brittany Spears. We couldn't buy name recognition like that. |
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Joined: November 2007 Posts: 10
Location: Houston | Sorry I posted the question...... |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12755
Location: Boise, Idaho | Not your fault. Good questions don't always get good answers. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | I think the question was "answered" pretty sufficiently before it "veered". . .
I mean, how much BETTER of an answer is there, really?? |
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Joined: November 2007 Posts: 10
Location: Houston | like.....maybe....sound, tone, finish, build quality etc........ |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 2791
Location: Atlanta, GA. | Y'all can have all the hamburgers and macaroni you want.
I bought a gallon of Gulf Oysters from Bayou La Batre today. Ummmmm!
Well, it's KINDA like comparing Celebicies and Applesauses. |
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Joined: July 2005 Posts: 354
Location: Flushing, MI | Well quite honestly, I'd take my current CS257 WAY over the Applause that I owned back in 79-80. The aluminum board and razorblade frets were not my idea of a good time. |
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Joined: September 2006 Posts: 347
Location: Reno, NV | Funny enough, I just played my old Applause AA14 with the aluminum neck and razor blade frets as you mentioned. I was surprise how bad the frets were. truly just bad. slides are a big no-no with that guitar. |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 4903
Location: Phoenix AZ | Applause guitars no longer use the aluminum fretboard and razor frets. The models in recent years have actually been quite nice. Including ukes and mandos. Dave |
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Joined: July 2005 Posts: 354
Location: Flushing, MI | Originally posted by Tupperware:
Applause guitars no longer use the aluminum fretboard and razor frets. The models in recent years have actually been quite nice. Including ukes and mandos. Dave Thanks Dave, I didn't know that. I'll have to check 'em out when I see 'em. Trouble is that I never see 'em. It's always Celebrity super shallows on the floor, anything better than that goes WAYYYY up on the wall where you need a ladder to get to it. |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 4903
Location: Phoenix AZ | Here's the Applause catalog.
CATALOG |
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Joined: July 2005 Posts: 354
Location: Flushing, MI | Thanks Dave!
I see that those are NOTHING like the old Applause eh? Looks like a big improvement to me.
I want the mando, and the bass! |
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