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Location: Eaton Rapids Michigan | Hi folks, I was given this website to get hooked into the "Ovation fever". Just purchased a 1778T "Elite"...some sort of special edition because it has upgraded stuff on it (supposedly) and has an OP PRo on board electronics. It also has a weird, metallic Orange flame paint job on it. The only thing I can find on the internet is one that is similar but painted Purple with flames. It had an MSRP sticker on it that stated that it was $1,800. The Ovations in this category are running anywhere from 875$ to 1300$. It has the ebony fretboard, solid maple neck, the "cool" paint job, and the upgraded on board electronics (OP Pro series). The guy at the shop told me this was a special edition, and from what I could tell it was built around 2005 or '06
( ascertained from the serial number). My question; does anyone know if many of these were made (with the orange, 'hot wheels' flame) and if this guitar has the "X" bracing. That would be the only way I could see this guitar being worth 1800. and if not, then do they mark these things up that much just for a paint job?? BTW they have marked this guitar down considerably and I purchased it over the weekend for my son who will be turning 16 in January. This thing plays really nicely and it is kind of cool (in an ugly sort of way...heh heh...) I think he will really like it! If anyone has info on this guitar, or want to share their story about their favorite "O" that would be great too! It is my first Ovation purchase and frankly I'm surprised I snubbed this brand for so long!!
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Location: Tychy, Poland | i've seen similar guitar in Poland, and it was sold for equivalent of $1400 here (new) |
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Location: closely held secret | Welcome, Bill!
Um... you didn't pay $1800, did you?
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Location: Atlanta GA | Let me be the first to Welcome You geardaddy.
If you are looking for info on Ovations, you have stumbled into the center of the universe. I don't have any information on your model but I'm sure there are many (100s) here who know more than you knew there was to know about it. Welcome again! |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Welcome aboard geardad. Pictures would possible help for those able to "Name That Guitar!" |
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| Welcome to the board, Bill. Stick around, there are lots of people with opinions and information here (some of them reasonably correct). |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Orange Flame Elite T in OFC Jam Video
(Don't be too stymied by the smokin' EVH-like leads) |
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Location: Carle Place, NY | I think the orange flame models with the OP Pro were made for Guitar Center. All of the ones I've seen have a truss rod cover which would indicate an LX neck and therefore scalloped X (LX) bracing in the top. GC must have ordered a bunch of these and then had trouble selling them at $1099. I remember seeing them for a lot less than that, but probably GC was not including a case at the lower price. It's a very cool guitar but perhaps not the sort of "bling" that appeals to everyone.
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Location: Omaha, NE | Bill, good to see you made it to the other side...
If the one you bought is similar to this one:
...then those are awesome! The look is not for the tradition bound, wood sniffers over there, but who cares. Its looks cool and I can't imagine a 16 yo not loving it.
Wish you were my dad. I'll send you a list. |
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Location: Utah | The Orange Flame with the Op Pro was the newer version of the Red Flame. We got one of the Red Flame for my daughter about 2 yrs ago or so ? IIRC. Hers is a Guitar Center special edition that carries an offical designation GCXT and has the OP30 preamp.
I believe there were 1778T-RF that were exactly the same thing available, just not from Guitar Center.
The newer version, like yours, has the different color and the Op Pro.
I love the sound of that guitar! It is great both plugged and unplugged. It is based on the Elite T 1778, so it is a non-lx version. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong on that).
We paid about $900 out the door new, including factory hard case, tax and a couple of extras like a cord and strap.
Try Martin Marquis Phos Bronze strings, light gauge, on the guitar. |
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Location: big island | where's crimson lake? (oh yeah, he's in france) anyway, his son nicky has an orange one i think. we've got pics around here somewhere... |
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Location: Carle Place, NY | There are LX and non-LX versions of the Elite T. Almost every one that I've seen with the OP-Pro and six-element original p/u are LX. The flame models are all LX according the Ovation's web site. |
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Location: Eaton Rapids Michigan | Wow, great response. thanks to everyone !! Yes, the exact guitar is the pic with the boy in it. That is my exact guitar. No i didn't pay 1800...I actually paid 800.00 I know you could get a lot of guitars out there for 8 C but I have no buyers remorse over this as it sounds very col, both plugged and unplugged, with plenty of punch and the thin neck will help him reach those sustained chords perfectly!! So I will assume then that it is the X bracing, not that it would matter other than it must be why the guitar sounds so good...
Happy holidays to all, and thanks for the info!!
Bill
PS: yeah, I think my kid is pretty lucky, but then he's a pretty good kid too, so it goes both ways! (: |
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Location: south east Michigan | Welcome Geardaddy!
And yet another Michigander checks in. |
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Location: closely held secret | Nope, $800 is a great price for that guitar! The T's are a terrific bargain, flames or no flames. |
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Location: Utah | What do the bracings look like for the LX vs non-LX? |
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Location: Central Massachusetts | LX Scalloped bracing can be seen here
the non-LX T's are quintad bracing per the O website Sorry, couldn't find a pic of that. |
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | Welcome Bill,
I live north of Cadillac. Like somebody else said, Your son is a lucky guy. That IS a very nice guitar, despite the flames (which I like and I'm going on 50). I'm sure that if you hang around here very long, you'll find there are a lot of very nice flavors of Ovation and Adamas guitars out there, including wood topped ones. There are so many good deals out there on Ovations, and for the money, there are no comparisons to the value and quality in a good US-made Ovation. It appears to be a (so-far) undiscovered secret. Take the time to check out some of the links here and you'll find lots of pictures of some very cool models. Once again ... welcome aboard!
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Location: Utah | OK, for reference, the bracing on my daughters GCXT (which is allegedly a 1778T-RF) is not LX. The main braces run longitudinally from the endpin to the neck, converging as they approach the neck. It has an A Frame kind of appearance. The preamp is the Op30.
The orange flame version was definitely a later version with the Op-Pro, so the bracing is unknown. |
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Location: Warren,Pa. | An instant way to ID what you've got:
If it has a truss rod cover, then it's an LX with X-bracing.
If NO truss rod cover, it's pre-LX and has the older fan bracing.
Either way, what a great guitar! Welcome to the club. John <>{ |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | FlySig : It has an A Frame kind of appearance.
But would n`t that be an "ADAMAS" bracing..?!..my 1537 has it ..
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Location: Warren,Pa. | Bill,
Another cool thing about that guitar...
Ovation hands the unfinished bowl over to this guy who has a custom paint shop...he does paint jobs on custom choppers. His shop does the flames. Then the factory finishes building the guitar.
So there is quite a bit of cost difference between your guitar and one that is finished with bowl paint. John <>{ |
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Location: Eaton Rapids Michigan | Thanks for the great welcome wagon, and a special shout out to my people in Algonac and Cadillac Michigan!!! Alot of good information which just reinforces my decision regarding this guitar. As a guy who is used to playing lots of high end, hand crafted guitars (cuz i live right down the road from Elderly instruments in Lansing...even though on my salary I will never afford one!) I can tell you I was immediately pleased with the sound and playability. Although the more I read from folks who own Ovations, the more I guess it shouldn't surprise me. Ovation really needs to get some better marketing!! They don't even have an ad in my latest Acoustic Guitar Magazine!
That was an interesting aside about the paint job and it really does look very cool the more I see it. I have to sneak glances at it late at night or early in the morning otherwise he may barge into my bedroom and catch me, and then the jig is up! As far as if it's got LX bracing or whatever I guess in the end it doesn't matter cuz whatever its got works for it! FWIW, it looks like it's got a solid maple neck and I don't see any truss lines or anything. |
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Location: Cicero, NY | "Ovation really needs to get some better marketing!!"
...if we all had a nickel for every time that's been written! Welcome, GD, and feel free to preach to the choir all you want but you'll get no resistance here. It's a niche guitar company with a fiercely loyal crowd but don't expect them to try to compete with the Taylors', Gibsons or Martins, et al. This Homey don't play dat game. Which is fine - it keeps the prices down for all of us to enjoy more of their stellar work. |
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Location: CA | The flamed version is not my particular cup of tea (Don't know why, but every time I see one I get the urge to open the hood and look for a blown hemi), but my gray 1778T is by far the nicest sounding guitar I've ever owned. After decades of just plunking around, it's inspired me to get better. Hopefully, your son will feel the same way. |
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Location: Utah | Originally posted by bauerhillboy:
An instant way to ID what you've got:
If it has a truss rod cover, then it's an LX with X-bracing.
If NO truss rod cover, it's pre-LX and has the older fan bracing. The GCXT has fan bracing WITH truss rod cover. Must be some kind of Guitar Center mutt. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | You're going to have one excited kid at Christmas. I'm sure you'll get plenty of joy out of giving it to him. Welcome to the club. |
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Location: Atlanta GA | Is that a can of lighter fluid on the coffee table next to the kid holding the guitar?
Those may be real flames on that guitar! (not sure what roll the caulking next to it plays) |
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Location: Atlanta GA | On closer inspection it's a tube of burn cream ointment... nevermind |
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Location: Eaton Rapids Michigan | ;) :) Amen! |
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Location: Eaton Rapids Michigan | Hi folks, my son got his new guitar a couple of hours ago, and loves it!! (1778Elite "T"). Truth be told I'm dying to pick it up and play, but he hasn't let it go since he opened it!! We plugged it into our little fender amp and it sounded great! Now if he would just learn another song besides "Wish You Were Here". (: Thanks to everyone for your input and your thoughtful comments which helped answer the questions I had about the care and feeding of these fine guitars, and if you have any other closing thoughts please share them. ( Like what do you use to clean them, and do you use a soundhole humidifier with these, etc...)
Thanks again,
Bill
PS: It must be an LX cuz it's got the truss rod cover on it.! |
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Location: Simpsonville, SC | Great sig line geardaddy37....James has always been my favorite. |
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Location: Eaton Rapids Michigan | Jim, there's a great JT interview in the latest American Songwriter
www.americansongwriter.com
Did you catch him on SNL last weekend...I guess with the writer's strike they've been running old shows and there he was, circa '95 or '96, doin that Oh, Lucy, lord have mercy...song. Gotxta love that custom Olson he was playin' back then...little pricey for a guy on a social worker's salary though!
PS: I just got to noodle around with the "O"...and I think it stands for "Oh man, what a guitar!!" (: |
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