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Location: Oregon | My husband has an Ovation 12 string acoustic/electric that had a little tab on the neck that had Glen Campbell's 'signature'. He took that off when he was cleaning it and it has the number 1615 written in black ink. From what I see online, those are two different guitars.... sigh....
Where can I get info on this? I need to have monetary values for his equipment for insurance purposes, but we didn't buy this one new...so I'm not sure where to start. I'm guessing it's not worth much but want to have as accurate an estimate as possible.
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Location: Tennessee | There probably won't be a lot of difference either way. Inside the bowl there ought to be a label that has a model number on it, and a small sticker with a six digit serial number. Check both of those and let us know ... someone here will be able to give you a ballpark. It's also helpful to know if there is any damage on the guitar and/or cracks in the finish on the top.
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Location: Central Florida | It sounds like a previous owner put a Glen Campbell truss rod cover on the headstock as an aftermarket modification. The basic differences between the GC signature 12 string, which is model # 1618, and a 1615 are cosmetic only. The GC has fancier diamond inlays on the fingerboard, white binding around the edge of the fingerboard and gold plated tuners. The 1615 has no fingerboard binding, less ornate inlays and chrome tuners.
As for value, it depends largely on condition, but a 1615 in reasonably good shape is probably worth about $350-450, while the Campbell model might fetch $400-500. These are rough estimates at best, but it should give you a general idea. |
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Location: Oregon | Wow! Incredibly fast responses! It is definately a 1615, not a GC. The tuners are chrome with the clearish knobs. The model number, just because I have it here, is 181878.
It's in pretty good condition...one barely noticeable 'ding' in the neck, the wood is in great condition and no other issues that I know of. Both the acoustic and electric features work great.
Thanks again....I appreciate the help! |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | JEFF ; As for value, it depends largely on condition, but a 1615 in reasonably good shape is probably worth about $350-450, while the Campbell model might fetch $400-500. These are rough estimates at best, but it should give you a general idea.
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Location: Tennessee | Originally posted by Jeff:
It sounds like a previous owner put a Glen Campbell truss rod cover on the headstock as an aftermarket modification. :mad: :eek: WITKO! :eek: :mad: |
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Location: Oregon | LOL....what the heck is WITKO?!? :) |
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Location: big island | Originally posted by shaknzmom:
LOL....what the heck is WITKO?!? :) now that is funny!!
shaknzmom, if you only knew what a "witko" is... |
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Location: Oregon | Alright....chances are it's best I don't know! Too funny you guys....pick on the dumb blonde... |
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Location: big island | actually "witko" is a who. he is an illustrious member of this forum and goes by the handle "tupperware". he loves truss rod covers...and plastic dishes. |
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Location: Oregon | OK....now I can go to bed with that added knowledge. :) JK....I appreciate the help. Thanks and have a great evening. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Sometimes called Tuppy, or other things. This does have his fingerprints all over it! |
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Location: closely held secret | C'mon, Beal, you know he's smarter than that. I'm sure he always wipes his prints off before he 'moves' his merchandise...
shaknzmom, welcome to the OFC! There's a bunch of us in the northwest, what part of Oregon are you in? |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | I meant figuratively, but I think you're right. It's probably a copy cat crime. |
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Location: closely held secret | Yeah, like this "David Witko" signature trc I've got somewhere... |
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Location: Oregon | We're in the Beaverton area..... Hubby is the guitar guy here. I'm just the one that dusts them. :) |
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Location: NJ | It woulda' been a TRUE "Witko-ism" if she'd taken the trc off and there was just WOOD underneath, as it was a K-bar neck . . . |
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| Originally posted by cliff:
It woulda' been a TRUE "Witko-ism" if she'd taken the trc off and there was just WOOD underneath, as it was a K-bar neck . . . Hey ... that's what I'm planning to do with my 1619 with the K-bar neck! |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Originally posted by shaknzmom:
LOL....what the heck is WITKO?!? :) Science is still baffled. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Welcome. I think the values you were given are in the ballpark. The values vary depending on condition and other imponderables, like whether any on this board has money left over after Christmas. I have family in Beaverton and bought my Country Artist from someone there. |
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Location: SoCal | WWTD?
If you're going to put a trc on a K-bar Ovation, you also have to cut and glue trc screw heads into the screw holes, then put on the trc with very thin double sided tape.
That's what Tup would do..... |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Words of truth from a very good private investigator. This must be from one of his past cases. |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Did I say, "baffled?"
I meant, "incredulous" |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | You are confusing me with Standingovation. Check the vault (UTFSF) and you will see that it was HE, not I, who propagated all the TRC debauchery. Sorry, but I can't help you.
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Location: SoCal | Multiple personality at it's finest..... |
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Location: NJ | You're never "alone" with a schizophrenic . . . |
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Location: enid, ok | And so, the moral of this story is... |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Some stories have no morals.
The ones Cliff reads. |
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Location: Tennessee | Mama ... FWIW, since this is for insurance purposes you ought to declare at the high end. You never know if you'll be able to replace that guitar for the numbers quoted above. It all depends on market conditions and timing. I've sometimes seen folks asking over $1000 for nice ones. Not to mention you've got a pre-Fender model on your hands. The value you declare will be for replacing the guitar, not selling it. Could be a big difference. |
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Location: big island | a glimmer of wisdom amidst all this shenanigans! right on bobbo. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | you're never alone with a schizophrenic. Does that mean that's there's always someone watching you? |
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Location: Cicero, NY | I wouldn't think so.
Yes, you're right, Beal. |
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Location: Central Massachusetts | Originally posted by shaknzmom:
We're in the Beaverton area..... Hubby is the guitar guy here. I'm just the one that dusts them. :) Welcome! I'm just down the street in Forest Grove.
If you're declaring for insurance purposes, like Bobbo said, aim high. search closed ebay auctions, roll that in with prices around here, maybe even drop by Borders or Powell's and see if it's in one of the guitar "Bluebooks".. then take the highest number you find! ;) |
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Location: Oregon | OMG....you guys are fun! I need to hang out in here more often. :) It's always a kick to watch forums where the members know each other.
Once again....thanks for the info. I will take the advice and check eBay....declaring at the high end sounds like a smart move.
Thanks again.... |
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Location: big island | shaknzmom,
"tupperware" typed his first 5000 or so posts to this forum under another handle, "standingovation". then he lost his job and began selling tupperware for a living. he has done so well at it that he owns more guitars than nearly everyone on this forum. nowadays, he travels the world representing the tupperware brand and hosting world-famous websites devoted to ovation, martin and takamine guitars.
when things get too hot in the kitchen for plastic ware, he blames it all on his former self. this is what the schizophrenia talk is all about. |
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Location: SoCal | Just because you're paranoid, it doesn't mean that somebody isn't actually following you..... |
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Location: big island | kindly advice from a private investigator. |
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Location: Oregon | Good grief......it takes a certain kind of person to make a living at selling Tupperware.....and that isn't me. As much as I'd love to travel the world and love my Tupperware....don't think I could do it. More power to him!
You mention Takamine.....
my husband is looking at Takamine acoustics.... As much as he'd like a high end model, we do have two teenagers at home so high end is out of the question. What is a good model for a 'reasonable' price?? Anyone know? |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | and there's the other end of the rope....
Taks are great values and make some excellent guitars... Wander off the Takamine Forum where you''l find a strange parallel universe and just how Tacky Tupperware can be... |
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| Aren't you in luck. A number of us are also members in not-so-good standing at the Takamine forum . Lots of information and advice over there, and I'll pre-welcome you.
Warning: the aforementioned Tupp is the site admin over there ;) |
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Location: enid, ok | EGADS! Good thing I own a cheap Alvarez. |
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Location: Cicero, NY | And to answer your next question, no, you will now NEVER be free of this group regardless where you might wander on the 'Net. |
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Location: big island | Originally posted by maxdaddy7271:
EGADS! Good thing I own a cheap Alvarez. i thought you were playing a chord progression, maxdaddy. then you got to the "s" which, i suppose can only be played on a cheap alvarez. |
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Location: NJ | S-lide. |
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Location: big island | Originally posted by shaknzmom:
Good grief......it takes a certain kind of person to make a living at selling Tupperware...
You mention Takamine.....
my husband is looking at Takamine acoustics....
well, david witko is certainly a "certain kind of person". i won't say which kind. (although he is one of my heroes.) i will tell you that i was only jibing on the tupperware salesman part.
and takamine's are marvelous guitars for the money. touch base with "alpep", who you will find all over this forum. here's his website link: http://www.lostartvintage.com
al sells takamines among other great instruments |
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Location: big island | Originally posted by lanaki:
i will tell you that i was only jibing on the tupperware salesman part.
i meant "jiving" but, in this case, jibing can work too. |
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Location: Tennessee | But he does have the burping thing down pretty good. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I have no idea what you guys are talking about.
1. I don't sell tupperware, I only play it.
2. Actually I don't even own any real tupperware. That stuff you buy at Sharper Image with the four sided locking lids is about a million times better.
3. I have never encouraged faux TRC's. That was another member in another era. Although I do own the patent on using dummy screw heads and double face tape.
4. Visit the Takamineforum to learn about those guitars. The admins are nice guys, not at all like the grumpy old man and smart ass poster over here.
In summary: sunburst sounds better than natural, gloss is the boss, wood is good, 1-3/4" is standard, multi-holes are for bowling balls and hookers, and taylors still suck.
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Location: Oregon | Dave - You have my sympathies....don't know how you tolerate these guys.
As far as the Tupperware comment....did I mention I'm blonde? I'm about as gullible as they come...so from now on everything will be taken with a grain of salt. :)
Carry on...... |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
Multiple personality at it's finest..... Started with cloning Truss Rod Covers then a move to cloning people. WOW!!! |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Originally posted by shaknzmom:
...did I mention I'm blonde? I'm about as gullible as they come.. I can see the glow from over 6,000 computer screens around the globe working on the response. |
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Location: East Tennessee | Originally posted by fillhixx:
Originally posted by shaknzmom:
...did I mention I'm blonde? I'm about as gullible as they come.. I can see the glow from over 6,000 computer screens around the globe working on the response. I'm waiting to see who's first. :D |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | First time I check this thread today and look what happens. A gullible blonde shows up and all the guys start acting weird. Actually, this is about normal. |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | I`m surrounded by gullible blondes...male and female alike.. ;)
Vic |
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Location: enid, ok | Yeah, she's the first? I think not... |
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Location: Oregon | Hey maxdaddy....know any LaRue's in Enid? |
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Location: Jet City | Enid, wow. Never thought I'd hear that name again. I've actually been to your town. My family, Dad's side, is all through SW KS. Dodge City mostly.
Dad convinced me to move out there after my divorce. I did about a year and a half and I was done. You just can't take the city boy outta the city. |
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Location: enid, ok | Dave LaRue out of Steve Morse's band, and he's probably never been near here. I'll check around. They're not jailbirds, are they? |
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Location: Cicero, NY | I would like to commend the masses (and you know who you are) on the restraint shown here.
You've all earned another biscuit at dinner. |
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Location: NJ | it's no "fun" t'swing at 'em ALL, Weezie . . . |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Pass the biscuits, please. |
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Location: Oregon | Nope....don't know Dave LaRue...doesn't mean he's not related though.
My father's side is all from OK...in and around Enid so just wondered....
Scooby snacks for everyone for the good behavior. :) |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | ruh-roh. |
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Location: Rego Park, NY, | Introducing!!!!
Drum roll Please!!!!!!!!
Dave (Tupperware,StandingOvation,Tachy)Witko!!! |
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Location: SoCal | Who's Tup givin' the finger to??? |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | All of us..... |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Just look at that beautiful Pacemaker behind the crap in the foreground... |
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Location: Cicero, NY | That's a nice shot of Dave, Phil, but he looks much more in his element here...
And you'll have to pardon Temp's indiscretion, Mom. |
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Location: Oregon | Standing up......backing slowly away from the keyboard.....I'm almost too frightened to move.
Good grief.....Dave's pics were fine, but this last one speaks volumes!
What a group of dorks.... :) But hey...aren't we all?
(Hopefully this image won't be burned into my retinas) I'll share it with my husband later....he'll probably ban me from the computer. ;) |
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Location: Rego Park, NY, | Cliff told Temp that Kim was standing within arms reach. I think Temp thought it was.......
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Location: Rego Park, NY, | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
Who's Tup givin' the finger to??? Check the For Sale section maybe he has it on sale for free too. All you have to do is pay the shipping ;) :D |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Weaser P:
That's a nice shot of Dave, Phil, but he looks much more in his element here...
Half naked with a small instrument in my hand? Yeah, I guess that's "in my element" ...
F'ing cameras ...
BTW, that MIGHT just be the most often posted picture in the history of the OFC.
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Location: Rego Park, NY, | I should have copyrighted it. I would have made enough money to buy the 12 string UTE. :mad: |
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Location: NJ | at least the llamas were left out . . . |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | and why not? It stars a truly All-Star Cast!
Much like the Million Dollar Quartet! |
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Location: Tennessee | Mom ... to fully appreciate that picture, you need to go here: Freddie and The Fishsticks |
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Location: NJ | I dunno why, but everytime I look at that "grass-skirt" pic, Moody reminds me of one of the "Bogie Men" from "March of the Wooden Soldiers" . . . . |
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Location: SoCal | You're just envious that I got good legs and you don't.... |
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Location: Oregon | Ya......I'm working (or trying to) and my computer blocked access to the 'Freddie' link....so I'm gonna have to pass on that one. Another retina burning experience I'm sure.
My husband thinks you guys need to get out more often....but I'm thinking all humankind is probably better off if you just stay right where you are.....in front of your computer. :) |
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Location: Oregon | It appears the title of my posting was WAY more accurate than I ever imagined it would be..... you just never know huh? |
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Location: Cicero, NY | "You're just envious that I got good legs and you don't...."
Does anyone really feel the need to go back to that pic and see if that's true or not? |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Move it along, people.... Nothing to see here. Go on now, skit. |
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Location: Cicero, NY | (She's getting skittish, everybody. Keep the llamas down for now...) |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Originally posted by shaknzmom:
My husband thinks you guys need to get out more often....but I'm thinking all humankind is probably better off if you just stay right where you are.....in front of your computer. :) Precisely. You see what happens when we're permitted to roam about in public... |
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Location: big island | shaknzmom, the freddie link takes you to a youtube video of these guys in their grass skirts and coconut bras performing a great song. featured vocalists are cliff and tupperware. this was filmed at the ovation factory tour a couple years ago. |
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Location: NJ | ". . Keep the llamas down for now . ."
If ONLY I'd had a nickle for every time I've had t'say THAT . . . . |
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Location: Cicero, NY | Oh oh...here comes the "One day at band practice..." story... |
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Location: SoCal | You really hadda be there to understand..... |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub |
Llama Song |
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Location: NJ | Okay, I found it . . .
THIS is what "started" it all! :
PythonLlama
(btw; read the first entry in the "comments" . . .) |
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Location: closely held secret | "Buenos Nachos lol Albatross"? |
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Location: NJ | Actually, I guess it would've been the "last" (but top) entry . . .
". . WTF was THAT??? . . " |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Turns-out, there is much I didn't about llama's. |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Ahhh, but so much you've done!
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Location: Oregon | Llama song....OMG...what the heck was that??
Freddie and the Fishsticks...nice... :)
At first I thought you were going to do the 'Iz' version of 'Somewhere Over the Rainbow/Wonderful World'...that would have been very appropriate, given the whole grass skirt thing.
Looks like you had a good time....what more can you ask for. |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Originally posted by shaknzmom:
Llama song....OMG...what the heck was that??
"You're feeling very GASsy... You will attend Ovation Factory Tour... You will post 10 times a day at OFC Board...
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Quack |
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Location: big island | looks like a gullible blond in that photo... |
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Location: Oregon | If only I was a cute gullible blond like her....sigh. Of course the guy is kinda creepy...
who does he most resemble in your group? Tup? :) Kidding...Tup looks like a nice guy... |
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Location: Jet City | *perk* Ovation Factory Tour? |
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Location: big island | Originally posted by shaknzmom:
[QB
who does he most resemble in your group? [/QB] trader jim with hair |
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Location: Oregon | Trader Jim must be quite the lady's man...
You know lanaki...one of my favorite co-workers is from Hawaii (assuming that's the 'big island' you're from) and he's a pain in the tush too....what is it about you island guys? ;) |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Originally posted by Damon67:
*perk* Ovation Factory Tour? We'll see... depends on whether Al's been naughty or nice. |
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Location: East Tennessee | Originally posted by lanaki:
Originally posted by shaknzmom:
[QB
who does he most resemble in your group? trader jim with hair [/QB] |
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Location: Simpsonville, SC | what cha laughin' 'bout CG..... :mad: |
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Location: big island | whatcha mad 'bout, beggin? |
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Location: Simpsonville, SC | Nuttin Randy...ain't got nuttin (read hair)...ta be mad 'bout. ;) |
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