|
|
Joined:
September 2003
Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | Even tho just the thought of having my UTE and Brian's 1581 up on the same stage may give an OFC member a guitar-gasim, I don't think I gonna gig with my UTE anymore. In the right situation it would be fine but to often at an open mic the PA set-up is sketchy at best. To close to the monitor, too close to the speaker, or nobody adjusting the levels. The problem with the UTE is that the textured top is so active (almost like speaker cone paper), I'm having a real problem with feedback. I know the set-ups are not gonna change so I'll try changing guitars. Looks like the AD-II is going back on the road.
Last night, for the first time, Brian & I did a full hour set. And with a "damn the torpedos" type attitude, for last song we played "Won't Get Fooled Again". A song we had never played in public before. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
March 2002
Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | ever thought of trying AirLox?? |
|
| |
|
Joined:
September 2003
Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | If I preffer the playability of the UTE I guess that would work. I take it that AirLox won't effect the amplifed sound at all, right? |
|
| |
|
Joined:
August 2004
Posts: 709
Location: Germany | I have the same problem with the OFC guitar and therefore I always put Airlocks in. My older Adamas guitars from the eighties are much more feedback-resistant and I have no idea why. It's definitely not the electronics as I have upgraded my 1980 Adamas II with the two-knobber reissue electronics of the OFC guitar. Maybe it's the hand-laid bowl?
Airlocks have no effect on the amplified sound (at least to my ears).
Karl |
|
| |
|
Joined:
March 2002
Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | Those Reagan-era tops weren't as "responsive" . . . |
|
| |
|
Joined:
August 2004
Posts: 709
Location: Germany | But why are the Bush-era tops? |
|
| |
|
Joined:
March 2002
Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | Because Cheney TOLD them t'be . . .
Brad; doesn't your Ute have a NotchFilter?? |
|
| |
|
Joined:
September 2003
Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | Nope... no notch filter. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
March 2002
Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | I don't think you'll see a major difference in the (plugged-in) sound with the air locks . . .
And y'don't HAVE to use the whole set.
You can selectively remove plugs and see what works best for you.
(granted, you won't have much time for "experimentation in an OpenMic situation)
Order a set from Al.
(he needs the business) |
|
| |
|
Joined:
October 2006
Posts: 5575
Location: big island | brad,
airlocks would be your answer. i got a set from al for my 1688. makes all the gigging difference in the world. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
September 2003
Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | Okay then... Airlox it is. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
January 2006
Posts: 2120
Location: Chicago | Interesting. Played my first long gig last night with the 1581; I too had a rather harsh feedback problem (even though I was forewarned and sat pretty far from our Bose L1).
Do Airlocks ruin the beauty of the guitar face? |
|
| |
|
Joined:
October 2006
Posts: 5575
Location: big island | they are fairly undetectable from 10 feet and further away. if your guitar is black, all the better. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
March 2005
Posts: 12759
Location: Boise, Idaho | They are hardly noticeable. In fact, the package shows them in the epaulets and the first time I saw the picture, I didn't even see them in the guitar. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
October 2006
Posts: 5575
Location: big island | adrian legg uses \'em.
(bottom of the article in the box area) |
|
| |
|
Joined:
October 2005
Posts: 4057
Location: Utah | Originally posted by Slipkid:
Even tho just the thought of having my UTE and Brian's 1581 up on the same stage may give an OFC member a guitar-gasim aka O'gasm.
BTW, what's an airlock look like? |
|
| |
|
Joined:
March 2002
Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | A shallow, black rubber plug (of various sizes).
They're in the treble bout holes below:
 |
|
| |
|
Joined:
October 2006
Posts: 5575
Location: big island | only drawback is not being able to see the label inside :rolleyes: |
|
| |
|
Joined:
October 2006
Posts: 5575
Location: big island | 
 |
|
| |
|
Joined:
September 2003
Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | Air Locks ordered from Al.
Problem solved.
Life Is Good. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
March 2002
Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | Good.
Now, . . . . about your "wardrobe" . . . . . |
|
| |
|
Joined:
September 2003
Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | What's the problem?
 |
|
| |
|
Joined:
March 2002
Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | Oh, . . . nothing . . . .
 |
|
| |
|
Joined:
February 2005
Posts: 11840
Location: closely held secret | S'ok, Brad. We know you're not the only member with wardrobe issues...
 |
|
| |
|
Joined:
March 2002
Posts: 15669
Location: SoCal | How's Brian doing these days with his Adamas II? |
|
| |
|
Joined:
November 2003
Posts: 11039
Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | ....and it hasn't been washed it since i wore it last.
I remember that day... 96, humid... long, long parade route. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
April 2004
Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | You're not the only one who remembers..... |
|
| |
|
Joined:
February 2005
Posts: 11840
Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by Jeff W.:
I remember that day... 96, humid... long, long parade route. ...and you the only clown. A heavy responsibility indeed. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
November 2003
Posts: 11039
Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to fu@kin' amuse you?
 |
|
| |
|
Joined:
February 2005
Posts: 11840
Location: closely held secret | "Are you still afraid of clowns?"
 |
|
| |
|
Joined:
November 2003
Posts: 11039
Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Absolutely.
(seems somehow appropriate that this is my 9000th post... maybe I'll find a life down there around his feet) |
|
| |
|
Joined:
April 2004
Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | I got something that you can find down there....
(since we have somehow ended up in the gutter) |
|
| |
|
Joined:
April 2004
Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | deleted (by me) due to content
contact me via PM to see if the offer is of interest |
|
| |
|
Joined:
April 2004
Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Damn Weaser.....you are GOOD! :eek:
I can't believe you read the original message before I had common sense take over and change it....all of 15 seconds
Anyway....PM answered! |
|
| |
|
Joined:
November 2005
Posts: 4832
Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Darn! Hate it when I zip out to do some real work and miss some small bit of off-colour cleverness. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
April 2004
Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Shouldn't you be writing some lyrics or something? |
|
| |
|
Joined:
May 2003
Posts: 425
Location: SE Michigan | Thanks for asking about the 1581 Paul. I really like the guitar, playability and unplugged tone are excellant, and it's loud.
But I am a bit disappointed with the plugged in tone from the Optima pre-amp. Lots of fizzing and quacking. The EQ helps but it doesnt sound as good as the OP-PRO. I just picked up a Fishman Aura dreadnought pedal and tried it through a PA for the first time last night. Best image seems to be number 13. It really helps to warm up piezo tone and smooths out a lot of the rough noisy spots.
Brad and I are starting to play this one bar pretty regularly. If it keeps up I may consider a VXT with seperate amps for acoustic and electric and some sort of foot switch to toggle between them. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
October 2005
Posts: 5331
Location: Cicero, NY | Originally posted by stephent28:
Damn Weaser.....you are GOOD! :eek:
I can't believe you read the original message before I had common sense take over and change it....all of 15 seconds
Anyway....PM answered! 
I know NUTINK! |
|
| |
|
Joined:
April 2004
Posts: 13303
Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | and you are being amply compensated for your complacency! |
|
| |
|
Joined:
November 2005
Posts: 4832
Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Originally posted by stephent28:
Shouldn't you be writing Can't listen to music at work. Throws the drummer off beat.
 |
|
| |
|
Joined:
March 2002
Posts: 15669
Location: SoCal | Brian, that's interesting about the Optima. There are a number of people here who consider it the best Ovation's ever produced. Keep us posted on what happens with your quest for good plugged in sound.
Anybody have any ideas why Brian's dealing with an Optima that doesn't sound, well, optimal? |
|
| |
|
Joined:
February 2005
Posts: 11840
Location: closely held secret | Check all the obvious stuff... battery, internal connections, settings, etc... then call Budny and see if he has any ideas.
Brian, I'm surprised as well. I've always found the Optima to be very dependable, producing clear, warm tone. If yours has "lots of fizzing and quacking" then there's something wrong somewhere. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
March 2002
Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | Brad;
Check your e-mail . . . |
|
| |
|
Joined:
September 2003
Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | You must have sent it to my house.
I'll check it when I get home. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
November 2004
Posts: 4413
| The Optima and the OP40/50 were great preamps. I don't see any improvement from the Op Pro Studio.
And I still like the tuner better in the old preamps. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
June 2003
Posts: 1792
Location: Rego Park, NY, | Originally posted by Jeff W.:
Absolutely.
(seems somehow appropriate that this is my 9000th post... maybe I'll find a life down there around his feet) |
|
| |
|
Joined:
November 2006
Posts: 2241
Location: Simpsonville, SC | Tha book was better....always is...sumpin about tha imagination that makes it that way....however tha movie was pretty good too. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
March 2002
Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | Brad;
D'you get my e-mail?? |
|
| |
|
Joined:
September 2003
Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | Yes... PM sent. |
|
| |
|
Joined:
October 2003
Posts: 134
Location: Lakewood, Ohio | Are the bracings completely glued down from end to end in your UTE? Maybe loose bracings contribute to top vibration/feedback? |
|
| |
|
Joined:
September 2003
Posts: 9301
Location: south east Michigan | A couple air-locks took care of the problem.
I'll look at the bracing next time I'm back there but I don't think that is the problem. It's just that those style tops are so damn sensitive and reactive. |
|
| |
Of Gigs and UTEs