Never Say Never - String Recommendation Needed
Tupperware
Posted 2008-01-10 10:23 AM (#61614)
Subject: Never Say Never - String Recommendation Needed


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OK, I NEVER thought I would be asking this question ... WHAT STRINGS DO YOU RECOMMEND ???

For the last 5 years I CRINGED every time some newbie asked that question. I just wanted to screem in to the computer keyboard "I DON'T F$CKING KNOW. IT'S LIKE UNDERWEAR. EXPERIMENT UNTIL YOU FIND SOMETHING COMFORTABLE THAT GETS THE JOB DONE. LEAVE ME THE HELL ALONE..."

NOW, here I am with hat in hand and tail between legs asking for some advice. An NO, don't tell me to do a SEARCH. I'm too lazy for that and you schmucks have the answers already so just give it to me, OK?

I'm asking about NYLON STRINGS. I just bought my first REAL classical guitar. Wood, not plastic. I have zero talent for this kind of instrument, but even in my hands it sounds darn nice. But I have NO FREAKING CLUE about strings. I hear about HIGH tension, LOW tension, HARD tension, blah, blah, blah ...

Please tell me what to buy. I don't need the whole sob story, how you've experimented with this and that ... I don't freaking care WHY. WHY, is not important. Just TELL ME what to buy and be done with it.

Thanks in advance. Shut up, Moody ...

Dave
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Jeff W.
Posted 2008-01-10 10:27 AM (#61615 - in reply to #61614)
Subject: Re: Never Say Never - String Recommendation Needed


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Taylor makes a Classical?

I've got Savarez Hard Tension Classic on the Hirade.
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cliff
Posted 2008-01-10 10:27 AM (#61616 - in reply to #61614)
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I like the D'Add ProArte ExtraHardTension (I forget the Model#).


btw;
Thatsa' NICE guitar y'got yerself there . . .
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gh1
Posted 2008-01-10 10:28 AM (#61617 - in reply to #61614)
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I DON'T F$CKING KNOW. IT'S LIKE UNDERWEAR. EXPERIMENT UNTIL YOU FIND SOMETHING COMFORTABLE THAT GETS THE JOB DONE. LEAVE ME THE HELL ALONE..."

(couldn't resist)

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gh1
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-01-10 10:34 AM (#61618 - in reply to #61614)
Subject: Re: Never Say Never - String Recommendation Needed


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Bite me, Tup.....

Use Elixir hard tension. Last forever and have a very good sound. I've got them on my 1773LX and you can feel the back of the guitar rumble when you play it......
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MWoody
Posted 2008-01-10 10:37 AM (#61619 - in reply to #61614)
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When I asked Serge - Country Artist - he told me that the D'Addario Pro Arte medium or hard tension were the way to go as well.

He has been known to play some Nylon string guitars from time to time!


That, and Non-Whitey Tighties are my preference.
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cliff
Posted 2008-01-10 10:38 AM (#61620 - in reply to #61614)
Subject: Re: Never Say Never - String Recommendation Needed


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You KNOW that you're gonna' get about a dozen responses (with about a dozen DIFFERENT recommendations) . . .

So why'd y'even BOTHER??
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Tupperware
Posted 2008-01-10 10:47 AM (#61621 - in reply to #61614)
Subject: Re: Never Say Never - String Recommendation Needed


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Good recommendations:

Elixir hard tension
D'Addario Pro Arte medium or hard tension
D'Addario Pro Arte Extra Hard Tension
Savarez Hard Tension

Thanks guys.
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cliff
Posted 2008-01-10 10:57 AM (#61622 - in reply to #61614)
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I just double-checked.

I use the Hard Tension (not the ExtraHard).


sorry.


So, . . how's that thing sound plugged-in???
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-01-10 11:01 AM (#61623 - in reply to #61614)
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All are good recommendations....
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cliff
Posted 2008-01-10 11:05 AM (#61624 - in reply to #61614)
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'cept for the Elixers :p
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-01-10 11:10 AM (#61625 - in reply to #61614)
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Clifford, you've never tried these. I'd also bet that you've never tried the Elixir phos/bronze. I don't think you could tell them from uncoated strings, except they last one helluva long time longer...
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cliff
Posted 2008-01-10 11:16 AM (#61626 - in reply to #61614)
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Tried 'em both (in music stores in Manhattan & Colorado).

Didn't like 'em. Sorry.
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Capo Guy
Posted 2008-01-10 11:24 AM (#61627 - in reply to #61614)
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D'Addario Hard Tension EJ46

They also make the same gauge in a composite which are good also.

I also have used the EJ33 Folk nylon. When I'm too lazy to tie the ends at the bridge. :D
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Steve
Posted 2008-01-10 11:39 AM (#61628 - in reply to #61614)
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Savarez 520P's. They are high tension, tie-end classical guitar strings. Now, have a nice day :rolleyes: ...
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fillhixx
Posted 2008-01-10 12:04 PM (#61629 - in reply to #61614)
Subject: Re: Never Say Never - String Recommendation Needed



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Every time I hear geeks comparing one piece of arcane data with another and how one is so much better than another, then recall when a really good guitar player picked up a POS guitar with rusty strings that I had just cursed and made it sing its own special song I am reminded of an old Gaelic expression.

It's a poor workman blames his tools.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2008-01-10 12:14 PM (#61630 - in reply to #61614)
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ever try to pound a 16 penny nail into a locust board with a tack hammer?
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2008-01-10 12:15 PM (#61631 - in reply to #61614)
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Does n`t matter what brand , as long as it`s Full Moon when U buy `em..
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2008-01-10 12:22 PM (#61632 - in reply to #61614)
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Okay then.....GUT - Strings..

http://www.damianstrings.com/guitar.htm

..Good !!

Vic

...say any different , and I`ll take U to the mat and prove U wrong.. :)
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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2008-01-10 12:59 PM (#61633 - in reply to #61614)
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I used to go with D'addario Pro Arté Composites, but I hated the hazzle with tying them to the bridge.

Since then I use D'addarios J34 Folk Nylons with ball ends - and: the nylons are black!

I heard only the best about Thomastik nylons, an austrian brand - but did not try them til now.

Kurt
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fillhixx
Posted 2008-01-10 1:02 PM (#61634 - in reply to #61614)
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Jeff: In that case another homily comes to mind.
Don't force it. Get a bigger hammer.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2008-01-10 2:18 PM (#61635 - in reply to #61614)
Subject: Re: Never Say Never - String Recommendation Needed


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I've been using Aquila classical strings. Same "Nylgut" synthetic gut formula as they use for their Uke strings. Now, as usual the only reason I'm using these is because I can get them wholesale, but they sound damn nice on my Viper. I'll be trying them on my new LX Classic when I pick it up next week
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Tom_CA
Posted 2008-01-10 2:51 PM (#61636 - in reply to #61614)
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I use the d'Add Pro arte Hard Tension composite G: EJ46C

Tom
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lanaki
Posted 2008-01-10 2:57 PM (#61637 - in reply to #61614)
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the aquila ukulele strings are the very best i have ever used. if i currently owned a nylon string guitar, i would try aquilas first.
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an4340
Posted 2008-01-10 3:48 PM (#61638 - in reply to #61614)
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D'Addario Hard Tension EJ46

I've tried bunches.
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Capo Guy
Posted 2008-01-10 4:34 PM (#61639 - in reply to #61614)
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This would have made a good poll question.
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2008-01-10 4:55 PM (#61640 - in reply to #61614)
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What will the poll be about.. :confused:
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STK
Posted 2008-01-10 5:04 PM (#61641 - in reply to #61614)
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no pics? what is the recommended strings from the maker? at the end, one always goes back to factory recommended strings. Hannabach 728 Medium Tension or Hard Tension.
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Tim in Yucaipa
Posted 2008-01-10 5:09 PM (#61642 - in reply to #61614)
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Savarez w/wound 3rd string.(Red Label)
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2008-01-10 5:29 PM (#61643 - in reply to #61614)
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These are Different to Play on , Sound Different...Everything is Different about them...can n`t get more classical than these...and they `re US-made..

http://www.damianstrings.com/

...check the ones for Classical guitar ..

Vic
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Northcountry
Posted 2008-01-10 6:00 PM (#61644 - in reply to #61614)
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"I DON'T F$CKING KNOW. IT'S LIKE UNDERWEAR. EXPERIMENT UNTIL YOU FIND SOMETHING COMFORTABLE THAT GETS THE JOB DONE. LEAVE ME THE HELL ALONE..."

Sorry, I honestly have found little difference in the few sets I have bought for mine yet. To be honest they were all good! You need to use the palm and your thumb and fingers and crimp stretch the strings up the neck three or four times and retune. I do this 3 or 4 times on each string and they do not go out of tune so easily on you when your giging. Same thing with the bronze wounds actually. You do this and you will not have to retune for a while. Seriously......... Learned this from a luthier from my home town who built custom acoustic guitars (one for Johnny Cash) he had a small shop right in my home town now.


:D
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-01-10 6:07 PM (#61645 - in reply to #61614)
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"I DON'T F$CKING KNOW. IT'S LIKE UNDERWEAR. EXPERIMENT UNTIL YOU FIND SOMETHING COMFORTABLE THAT GETS THE JOB DONE. LEAVE ME THE HELL ALONE..."


Damn, that felt good.....
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-01-10 7:15 PM (#61646 - in reply to #61614)
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I thought Randy was talking about underwear. Stretching them 3 or 4 times up the neck would be a major wedgy problem.
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Paulcc1
Posted 2008-01-10 8:15 PM (#61647 - in reply to #61614)
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D'Addario Pro-Arte
EJ45 - Normal Tension
Untill you get used to them than go with the EJ46 - hard
Pauly
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cliff
Posted 2008-01-11 9:45 AM (#61648 - in reply to #61614)
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Now, . . I'd be inclined t'suggest doing the "opposite" . . . start with the Hard, and then (if you WANTED to), go with the Normals . . .

That's what I did, as (since I was so accustomed to playing steel-string) I found myself OVERplaying the Normals. The HighTension strings were a bit more "similar" to what I was "used" to, and were thereby a bit more "stable".

But then again, that's just "me".
Just a suggestion.
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E-A-D-G-B-E
Posted 2008-01-11 12:59 PM (#61649 - in reply to #61614)
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See my post in the other "which strings" thread below...I recommend (and use) some of Thomastik-Infeld's classical strings as well. I think it is their S-series that are wound like a standard string, but meant for classical guitars' tension needs and applications.
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Paulcc1
Posted 2008-01-11 4:25 PM (#61650 - in reply to #61614)
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As we all know there is more than one way to cook a cat. So with that said try both the D'Addario Pro-Arte 45&46. And go which ever is comfortable for you. What worked for me may not for you.
Pauly
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cholloway
Posted 2008-01-11 4:42 PM (#61651 - in reply to #61614)
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I was wondering how long it would take for this thread to turn to exchanging cat recipes!
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cliff
Posted 2008-01-11 4:43 PM (#61652 - in reply to #61614)
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Don't look at me . . .


. . . I always prefer to "Eat It Raw".
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Paulcc1
Posted 2008-01-11 5:07 PM (#61653 - in reply to #61614)
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WOW!
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schroeder
Posted 2008-01-11 5:09 PM (#61654 - in reply to #61614)
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Some vegetarian.
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cholloway
Posted 2008-01-11 5:10 PM (#61655 - in reply to #61614)
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Sun Dried over hot asphalt.
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Arc Angel
Posted 2008-01-11 5:11 PM (#61656 - in reply to #61614)
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Aquila Alchemias are great as are Savarez Corum Alliance.
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schroeder
Posted 2008-01-11 5:13 PM (#61657 - in reply to #61614)
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BTW - I like the Savarez hard tension, not the composites.
I wouldn't use the Thomastik ball-ends on a real classical guitar. I use them on my Country Artist and they're superb, but they sound like s**t on a real quality classical.

More professional players worldwide use the D'Adds than any other brand.
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