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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Here is the link to the Music Trades magazine that shows lots of the new stuff coming out at NAMM.
Looks like Martin is coming out with signature models commemorating every person that ever lived :D
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | A show -case of marketing... |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by stephent28:
Looks like Martin is coming out with signature models commemorating every person that ever lived Still waiting for the "Tupperware" edition.
I used to feel the same as you about all the signature models. Man, enough is enough. But then I learned that for these signature models Martin donates the proceeds to the charity choosen by the artist. To date they have nonated many millions of dollars to worthy causes. That gained a lot of respect from me.
The other thing to keep in mind is that they don't make many of them. There have been lots oif different ones, but each is only a few hundred guitars. I am sure that all orders are filled before or after NAMM, so these truely are rare pieces and if you CAN find one at a dealer or used on ebay you're gonna donate dealer for it. Don't confuse these hand signed signature models with the couple of regular artist models like the Clapton 00028 or the Johnny cash D35 which are regular production guitars.
Man, I sound like one of those biased guitar brand defenders ...
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Location: NJ | I'd LOVE t'get my hands on an Ian Anderson model . . . |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Cliff, just grab a Lowden S23C or a Collings C-10 Deluxe.
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Got a deep maple C-10, no Lowden. |
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Location: NJ | Don't know the Lowden OR the Collings that you're referring to, but the Anderson model is based on a Martin NewYorker (similar to the Tak of Stephens's that I played at Fugot's) 'cept it's got a changeable bridge that'll accept either steel/nylon strings (I believe). . .
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Nice, got that OLD 1800's look going on |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Actually Cliff, the guitar that you were playing at Fugot's that you kept saying would be a "great recording guitar" was the Lowden S25C. |
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Location: NJ | Then what was the small-bodied Tak that I was playing?? |
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Location: south east Michigan | Last I looked I think there was an I.A. model at my local music shop. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | that would be the Tak EF417 but it was only out for a few minutes before it was put back in the case since most of us were gravitating to playing the Lowden. |
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Location: NJ | The Lowden WAS a nice "recording guitar" . . but that Tak really "struck a chord with me"(pun intended). THAT's very nice guitar!
An Anderson model'd be GREAT t'own, but in this stage of my life it's probably best that I retain both kidneys . . . |
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Location: South of most, North of few | That Elvis model with the leather cover. Wazupp with that. It must sound like you're playing the guitar in the case. :rolleyes: |
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Location: NJ | That's t'keep the top from getting fried banana & peanut butter sammiches smeared on it . . . comes with a full compliment of Tuinals in the accessory compartment . . . |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | That Elvis model with the leather cover. Wazupp with that. It must sound like you're playing the guitar in the case
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I was wondering if it is/was intended to avoid feedback , ..or was some recording done with it as well..?.. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Cliff, do you want an Anderson model or a Martin 0-16NY which is what Anderson actually played in the '70s |
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Location: NJ | I dunno . . . bring one of each over, and I'll decide . . . |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | I wish....
1971 Martin 0-16NY Like Ian Anderson used
Actually not a bad deal..... |
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Location: SoCal | At Kaman booth, no US Ovations, only Adamas was the 2008 Collectors.
Unlike last year, there were a lot of Celebs.
Hamer and Takamine was decently represented, as well as the GB amps.
Although the Ovation website has a 2008 price list dtd 1/08, didn't see brochures or price list for Ovation/Adamas.
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Location: Canada | Anything interesting from Takamine? |
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Location: NJ | It's entirely possible that the brochures/price lists didn't hit the booth yet. A lot of that stuff gets shipped in (thru us) as "live freight" (cartons and/or skids). The carpet gets dropped (usually by us) first, then the booth comes in (either by us or and an indepenent I&D co.) along with the furniture (if any). Usually, the ancillary freight hits last.
Unfortunately, stray cartons of publications rattling around the receiving area during exhibitor move-in (or the first day of the show) "happens" . . .
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Location: Phoenix AZ | What's on display in a booth is not always indicative of what's really happening behind the scenes ...
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Say it isn't so! |
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Location: Paris/France | Originally posted by Tupperware:
What's on display in a booth is not always indicative of what's really happening behind the scenes ...
Dave I sincerely hope that you're right Dave!!
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | I'm shocked, shocked ... that what a company is doing (at NAMM) may not be what's really going on behind the scenes. Like I said before, we won't know until, say about June what's going on. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Originally posted by cliff:
. . but that Tak really "struck a chord with me"(pun intended). Cliff, sent ya a PM. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | I read over on another board that Gibson and TC electroninc merged. Interesting. |
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Location: NJ | Didn't TC do the electronics for that "RobotGuitar" or was that somebody else?? |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | No idea, I don't follow old Hank that much these days. It wouldn't suprise me though if this was the case. |
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Location: Jet City | Originally posted by Mauvais Beal:
I read over on another board that Gibson and TC electroninc merged. Interesting. Yep, here's the story...
TC and Gibson merger |
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Location: Jet City | Originally posted by cliff:
Didn't TC do the electronics for that "RobotGuitar" or was that somebody else?? Tronical made the Powertune system for the Robot. |
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Location: Jet City | FYI, Gibson claims it's the first robotic self tuning guitar, but it really isn't. There's been a company called Transperformance that's been doing it for years.
http://transperformance.com |
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Location: SoCal | Followup to my post last night...what I was impressed by was two of the Takamines...the TNV360 SC Nashville ($3,249, $2,399 MAP) and the TF450 SMSB Grand Auditorium ($2,869/1,999 MAP). Looked good, great necks, great players. However, unless you have a quiet room, hard to really hear how the guitar projects and its voice. An example is that the 2008 Collectors (Adamas) - really couldn't hear it unless you got close to the epaulet. What shocked me about these two guitars was holding it just by the neck and feeling the guitar vibrate, the strings singing from just the noise in the convention hall. None of the other Taks did this...another guy there summed it up...it was as if the guitars were alive. Didn't find that in any of the Martins I checked out. For a guitar to respond like that...wow! |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | People , this sounds like a Heavy -weight , do I dare to say..P..?..
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Those shows were always so loud! The only thing worse was PASIC. Which is the Percussive Arts Society which puts on a drum show. Imagine all the booths with at least 3 drum kits and a kid with sticks at every one...... |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Quick thoughts. Ovation was relegated to the back corner of the booth. As others posted the only USA models on display were 6 models of VXT and the 2008 Collector. Lots of new ULTRA and CELEB models on display. Including a SEVEN signature model and a HEROINE DIARIES model. Taking to a Kaman rep later on he said that the booth had to be condensed this year to accomodate LP in the same booth. He said the direction from the brass was "If it ain't new, it ain't going to the show." This might explain the lack of USA models because other than adding the contour bowls to everything, nothing else is really new as far as I know. The 2008 Collector looked and sounded nice, although it still resembles something but form leftover parts in my opinion. Sadly, most people just walked right by it on their way to the Celebs. Plenty of new Takamine stuff which was very nice. I'll post that on the other board. Dave |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | The 2008 Collector looked and sounded nice, although it still resembles something but form leftover parts in my opinion. Sadly, most people just walked right by it on their way to the Celebs. As I said in my first posts about this guitar: it is a finesse instrument: a very professional guitar. It deserves to be experienced and played and hopefully not dismissed on first impression; that said, its not everyone’s cup of tea: that’s why there will only be 100 made. While perhaps sharing some similarities to past models, it is a new direction for Adamas: first cutaway top suspension ring and hand laid glass contour bowl, black/gold trim, etc. But, what do I know...I've only owned it for a little over a month...and have only about 30 hours playing it.
Something else curious FYI: Musicians Friend is again advertising 47 RI's for sale available April 15th for $3499 as well as 30th Anniv. 1687-8's for $2650...and 123Music is advertising the 30th Anniv. 1687's as well...both Blems and Unmarked...Sweetwater is advertising 08C's @ $3999...Both had taken these models off of their inventory...and have now put them back...curious...
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Location: Texas | Sadly, most people just walked right by it on their way to the Celebs.
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I am not surprised - they have to make the outside of the clebs look amazing to make up for the inferior construction LOL - I still love my 08 Adamas and very proud to own it. Left over parts????? Step away from the Taks Dave. The 08's are beautiful.
One thing - Fender says, if is ain't new, it isn's being shown - it is me or are there a number of new USA ovations - or were those last years models. IMHO - Fender just didn't want to take the time and effort - I hope that isn't the case. |
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Location: SoCal | Going back up this afternoon...let me clarify, as an owner of the 47RI and the OFC slothead Adamas (Adamii)...the 2008 Collectors is a beautiful, great guitar. Just unfortunate that the only way to play it was on one knee with a high noise level. |
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Location: Texas | Thank you Tony for clarifing that the 08 is a beautiful guitar - and I am sorry you don't have a quiet place to play her. That must be like going to Guitar Center and trying to play an acousitc while every 16 year old is playing an electric at full volume. :) Hope you are having a good time. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Hey Tony, glad you're there and able to check it out fot the rest of us...Thanks for the updates! I agree with Leslie: if you could have a quieter place to play it, you would really like how the 08C sounds...
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Don't get me wrong, the '08 looked nice and was the best sounding ovation on display. It's a very nice guitar that stands head and shoulders above anything else ovation is making these days. Mine is one the way. I had my choice of s/n 002 or a later one with some customization. Of course I opted for the customization. I'm sure I will enjoy it. It's just that it looks (to me) like an odd mix of parts. New headstock with an old style fretboard. New bowl with an old style top. But maybe that's what they were going after with this model, a mix of two generations. Maybe not a bad idea. Dave |
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Location: SoCal | I have no doubt that the 08 is a great sounding guitar. I'm a bit irritated that Ovation took the orignal slothead fretboard and used it on this guitar. That fretboard should have been only used on the #47 reissue and the OFC guitar. I'm not happy about that..... |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
I have no doubt that the 08 is a great sounding guitar. I'm a bit irritated that Ovation took the orignal slothead fretboard and used it on this guitar. That fretboard should have been only used on the #47 reissue and the OFC guitar. I'm not happy about that..... It's a good fret board. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Paul, it was first used on the original slotheads...the best; the top of the line...I think it’s just a retro mark of the Company's top-of-the-line high end guitar. |
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Location: Cicero, NY | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
I'm a bit irritated that Ovation took the orignal slothead fretboard and used it on this guitar. That fretboard should have been only used on the #47 reissue and the OFC guitar. I'm not happy about that..... Why, Paul? Should the owners of the originals be ticked that they used it on the 47RI or OFC? Did using that board de-value either the 47RI or the OFC at all? I wouldn't think so. They're all fantastic guitars that stand up on their own IMHO. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Paul will get over it. He gets SO attached to things. Still owns every guitar he's ever bought. How crazy is THAT?
Dave
PS - As always Paul, THANK YOU for a great party. Great food, drinks, fun, people and guitars. I really enjoyed it.
PSS - Thanks Bobbo for bringing the EF75. I was getting tired of all those other guitars slipping off my knee. |
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Location: Germany | In the meantime we know the sales prize of the 2008 Collector's in Europe. The cheapest offer I have seen so far is 3,600 Euro (= $5,250). Right, it's the sales prize not the list prize. They say that 10 specimen are destined for the German market. I'm curious how many of them they will sell.
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Location: NJ | ". . Should the owners of the originals be ticked that they used it on the 47RI or OFC? . . . ."
Well, . . . now that you MENTION it . . . . |
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Location: NJ | music mike
consider this your warning.
I am very tired of seeing prices here. Dealer prices cannot be advertised unless they are map.
YOu have repeatedly posted false information and conjecture. It will not longer be tolerated.
As for the 08 collectors
it is a great guitar. all the class of the 47 ri with the modern stuff that makes it appeal to someone doing a gig. keep the 47ri at home gig with the 08 collectors .
that is my plan.
btw the namm floor was so loud that the top and neck on the 08 just vibrated. it was that alive.
really nice guitar |
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Location: Scotland | Originally posted by an4340:
I have to say, that's the problem with these guitar shows. The cacaphony. Interestingly, down in the fubars (Hall E) there was a manufacturer showing a prototype Cacaphone. |
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Location: Brisbane Australia | Al, pardon my ignorance, what is map?
I'm assuming retail price?
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I think it is "minimum adertizable price" |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Originally posted by Paul Templeman:
Originally posted by an4340:
I have to say, that's the problem with these guitar shows. The cacaphony. Interestingly, down in the fubars (Hall E) there was a manufacturer showing a prototype Cacaphone.
A cat in heat with a crank? |
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Location: Cicero, NY | MY MOTHER-IN-LAW WAS THERE...?!?! |
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Location: Texas | I am confused here - anyone can search out prices and have put them on this board but Mike is being warned. Your days are numbered Mike. |
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Location: NJ | no vision that is not correct.
I talked to mike on the phone.
if you wish you can call me and I can explain it to you or e mail me.
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