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Joined: December 2007 Posts: 150
| Since I don't play, I don't know but this seemed to stand out. Doesn't look right to me so thought I'd ask. See where the strings come to the bottom...Wouldn't all the little metal things sit in the groove all the same way? These look like they are just wherever
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 Joined: August 2003 Posts: 4619
Location: SoCal | some just have no class, not hard to make sure they are all lined up.
don't believe it makes any difference although it may press in the wood of some bridges.
kinda like not zipping your fly :eek: |
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Joined: December 2007 Posts: 150
| So, it basically doesn't make a difference soundwise BUT it I reallign them, it will have to be retuned, correct?
I just don't like the extra strain...Just looks off? |
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 Joined: August 2002 Posts: 8307
Location: Tennessee | Only a true guitar homo would notice that. Welcome to the club. |
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Joined: April 2006 Posts: 2491
Location: Copenhagen Denmark | sjo : So, it basically doesn't make a difference soundwise BUT it I reallign them, it will have to be retuned, correct?
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It looks sloppy , sounds a few octaves too high..I suggest that you buy a new guitar..and.. zip -up them flies
.. kidding aside :..few musicians would bother about it , sure , in the beginning it will look odd , but there are so many things to "dance" with , yet , Tony has got a point , after repeatedly seating it that way , it will "gnaw" it`s way into the wood , causing a permanent position of the string -ends , so , before tightening strings completely to tuning -pitch , use a small/thin item to align string -ends so as to achieve a neat appearance..and then ,.. tune to pitch :)
Vic
..buy a new guitar anyway , your family will appreciate it.. |
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Joined: September 2006 Posts: 347
Location: Reno, NV | might as well put a fresh set of strings on your new guitar if you ask me. You wont know its full potential till you do. Just make sure you align the "ball ends" right in the bridge when you re-string. |
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 Joined: September 2006 Posts: 10777
Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | WHEN (soon) you put a new set of strings on...
Take a 4" piece of old Big E string, that you have cut off when you removed the strings...
Stick it through the hole in the ball end when you thread the string to keep it horizontal in the groove...
As you put more strings on, line the holes up as you do so...
Then you can be a Real Anal-Retentive O'Cultist! :rolleyes:
[just like the rest of us.... Except them damn Rebellious Kids! :cool: ] |
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Joined: June 2006 Posts: 7307
Location: South of most, North of few | OMA, thats if the barrels have holes in them. Some don't, and I'd hate to try to drill 12 of those little suckers. sj, it sounds like you don't have much experience in tuning a guitar. Don't worry, it's not rocket science, just loosen them up, re-align the barrels, and re-tune. If you need to, you can find an electronic tuner cheap on ebay. Makes it real easy. Soon, you'll be changing strings just for something to do.... |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12759
Location: Boise, Idaho | Especially for a 12 string, get an electronic tuner. I like the Korg CA30. It was only about $15 and is easy to use. You'll probably want to take the old ones off and clean and polish your uncle's guitar anyway. The nice thing about Ovations is they stay in tune for a long time. |
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 Joined: November 2005 Posts: 4832
Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | This will only be a new joke to you, but I want to be the first to tell YOU.
Originally posted by sj022698:
BUT it I reallign them, it will have to be retuned, correct? [/QB] 12 string guitar players spend half their time tuning and the other half playing out of tune.
(Not true of Ovations, because they're the best engineered guitars in the WORLD! But get the tuner anyway.) |
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Joined: February 2004 Posts: 1634
Location: Warren,Pa. | First of all, let me say that it is either the height of ignorance or laziness for anyone to string-up a guitar like that.
Secondly, you have one fine guitar there. I play my 12 all the time and a 12 has always been my main guitar. In the beginning, you ask yourself if you ought to do something to make tuning less of a chore. You go on a long search for the perfect tuner. You wind up buying 5 or 6 tuners over time. FINALLY, you take the plunge and get an onboard tuner. This one purchase transforms your relationship with your guitar.
If I were you, I would call Kim or John and get an Op24+C (they still had a few last year) if you can. If not, an Optima. You might not really be interested in dropping serious $$ into this acquisition, but it's one of the best 12 strings you could have and it does deserve such an upgrade.
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12759
Location: Boise, Idaho | I'd venture a guess that the vast majority of guitar players don't line up the ball ends and that the vast majority of OFC posters are anal about it.
I prefer the Korg over the onboard tuner, but it is an eyesight issue. It's easier to see the Korg than it is the tuner on an Optima or even the OP30. I like the new ones with the nice big digital readouts, though.
John, this particular guitar isn't going to get played much and I doubt that he wants to change it by adding an onboard tuner, after spending all this time tracking down his uncle's guitar. |
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 Joined: November 2005 Posts: 4832
Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
the vast majority of guitar players don't line up the ball ends ...and they're just plain wrong! :p |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15669
Location: SoCal | If you really care about having your guitar right, you line up the ball ends.
I saw a pic of Jose Feliciano's nylon string guitar and the strings were tied to the bridge sol haphazardly, you woulda thought that a blind man had tied them on! Incredible. It was a wonder that the guitar sounded even close to decent....... |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 4903
Location: Phoenix AZ | I saw Jose Feliciano play at casino in the Catskills about 15 years ago. I could never understand why they introduced him "Let's give a great big Carneige Hall welcome to Jose Feliciano".
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039
Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | A Catskills Casino is a damn sight short of Carnegie Hall... |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | They tried t'pull that once with Ray Charles
- telling him that the HS auditorium he was playing was CarnegieHall.
When they finally "fessed-up" afterwards,
his response was:
" . . I THOUGHT those acoustics sucked!! . . ." |
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 Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127
Location: 6 String Ranch | My 12 string sounds better with all the balls in a random pattern, no two exactally alike. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | Moral of the Story:
". . Don't Get Yer Balls in a Twist . . " |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12759
Location: Boise, Idaho | You guys are so mean. (I like it.) I bet this poor kid is home trying to figure out how to poke holes in the balls of the Adamas strings he just bought so he can line them up properly. And since we know he's young, he probably is saying, "Jose and Ray who?" |
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 Joined: January 2006 Posts: 5881
Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
I prefer the Korg over the onboard tuner, but it is an eyesight issue. It's easier to see the Korg than it is the tuner on an Optima or even the OP30. I like the new ones with the nice big digital readouts, though.
My thoughts exactly. I never use on-board tuners because I can't push the guitar far enough away to focus on those dinky little markers. I have a tuner on every pedal board plus a spare in the gig bag. They also serve as a convenient deactivation switch in the signal chain. |
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Joined: December 2007 Posts: 150
| Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
You guys are so mean. (I like it.) I bet this poor kid is home trying to figure out how to poke holes in the balls of the Adamas strings he just bought so he can line them up properly. And since we know he's young, he probably is saying, "Jose and Ray who?" Hey now. I told you, all the music I listen to were bands from 1990 or before. From 50's & 60's ska, Grateful Dead, Al Dimeola, Leo Kottke...See this thread :D
http://www.ovationfanclub.com/cgi-bin/ubb/non-cgi/ultimatebb.php?ub... |
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Joined: December 2007 Posts: 150
| Is the HexFX preamp part of the Optima Electronics?
I sent a photo of the label to John and he didn't know what to think on it as that serial number would not be right. |
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