New Strings
Darkbar
Posted 2014-06-02 6:26 AM (#487374)
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I know....please not another string thread.
But fwiw, I tried the Ernie Ball Aluminum/Bronze strings just for the hell of it. They really ring, each string has punch and projection. Everyone has different taste, but I may have finally found some new strings that compare or beat the Dadd's EJ-16's that I've used religiously for years, for near the same price.
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Cripple Rick
Posted 2014-06-02 11:24 PM (#487412 - in reply to #487374)
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Hi Bob G, I put a set of EB Aluminum Bronze on the 'O' #1112-2 and also a Martin 000-28. Really nice sound. Like you said, there is a special ring to them. I have also been trying the new Martin "Tony Rice" monel strings, and they have a great, mellow sound.
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BanjoJ
Posted 2014-06-04 1:48 AM (#487455 - in reply to #487374)
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I'd really like to know what you think of these after you've played them a while.

Please keep us posted on what you think.

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DaveKell
Posted 2014-06-06 6:26 AM (#487520 - in reply to #487412)
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rhansen - 2014-06-02 11:24 PM

I have also been trying the new Martin "Tony Rice" monel strings, and they have a great, mellow sound.


I believe the monel strings are nickel plated. I learned from Thom Bresh (Merle Travis' son) about pure nickel strings his dad played on his old Martin. I found them at juststrings.com. They're John Pearse Pure Nickel acoustic strings. I was able to go to mediums since they have significantly less tension than other strings. They turned my guitar into a different instrument altogether. They are cheap and last easily three times longer than anything else. Shipping costs more than the strings. It takes a few days of playing for them to settle in so don't rush to judgement if you try them. Very bell like sound and sustain out the wazoo. Also very clear string separation on chord strumming. I'll never use anything else. They sound great on my OM, 12 fret slothead dread, and on the Elite I had.
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Rolleijoe
Posted 2014-11-05 7:17 AM (#500611 - in reply to #487374)
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I strung up my Alvarez with a set of the EBs, but the clerk @ GC handed me .12s. OUCH!
I usually use TI Plectrum 10s. Going to play a bit more with the EBs, but those .12s are
killing my hands.

Got 3 sets of Plectrums standing by.
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Darkbar
Posted 2014-11-05 12:35 PM (#500623 - in reply to #487374)
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Ok, played 'em, loved 'em, bought more. I highly recommend the aluminum bronze

Edited by BobG 2014-11-05 12:36 PM
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2014-11-05 3:55 PM (#500632 - in reply to #487374)
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How long did they last and how much you paying for them?
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Darkbar
Posted 2014-11-05 4:38 PM (#500635 - in reply to #500632)
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I'm not really THAT picky, so they lasted 6 months. And I think they are about $6
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2014-11-05 5:38 PM (#500637 - in reply to #487374)
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6 months?????
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2014-11-05 6:56 PM (#500642 - in reply to #487374)
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$6.29 at Sweetwater if you buy 5.

I gotta try these.
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Darkbar
Posted 2014-11-05 7:33 PM (#500643 - in reply to #500642)
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Like I said...I'm not THAT picky. Others would have switched strings at one month. (might have been 5 months...)
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2014-11-05 7:47 PM (#500644 - in reply to #487374)
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I've found that non-coated strings last about a week.
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Darkbar
Posted 2014-11-06 5:26 AM (#500649 - in reply to #487374)
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I don't have gooey, sticky, food encrusted fingers, so my strings seem to last longer than other peoples (at least to MY ears). I actually know people who wipe their strings down between songs to get the oil off. But my fingers stay dry, yet still soft and supple....
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sycamore
Posted 2014-11-06 6:13 AM (#500651 - in reply to #487374)
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I've found very little difference between different brands with the exception of the cheapest Martin strings which are terrible. But then I am not a working musician
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BanjoJ
Posted 2014-11-06 9:00 PM (#500679 - in reply to #487374)
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I've tried two new, to me, types of strings over the last week.

I put a set of the Ernie Ball Aluminum/Bronze strings on my CE768 (medium lights 12 - 54). They are very bright, much brighter than the EJ16 I'd been using. I'm still trying to decide if I like them, but so far they sound good.

I've also put a set of GHS Silk and Bronze (medium lights 12 - 54), on my Adamas 2081. I'm after a warm or mellow sound for this guitar, which is why I got the silk and bronze. Unfortunately they don't sound warm to me and are a bit brighter than the Martin M130 silk and steel that I had been using.

I'm thinking of trying the GHS Vintage Bronze on the 2081 to get a warmer sound. Any suggestions anyone?

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moody, p.i.
Posted 2014-11-06 10:22 PM (#500681 - in reply to #487374)
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On the Adamas,put on Elixir phos/bronze lites, the new ones with the heavier trebles and G string. They sound good on mine.....
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BanjoJ
Posted 2014-11-07 12:12 AM (#500683 - in reply to #500681)
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immoody - 2014-11-07 3:22 PM

On the Adamas,put on Elixir phos/bronze lites, the new ones with the heavier trebles and G string. They sound good on mine.....


Thanks Moody, is that this set? 16052 Light .012 .016 .024 .032 .042 .053

http://www.elixirstrings.com/guitar-strings/phosphor-bronze-guitar-...




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Rolleijoe
Posted 2014-11-07 2:30 AM (#500685 - in reply to #500637)
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immoody - 2014-11-05 5:38 PM

6 months?????


Yep. Looks like my reply is gone about TI Plectrums, but yes, 6 months.
TIs consistently last much longer than the other brands. The sets on my
Höfner 1967 500/1 have lasted 2 years so far, plus RIC 4003-s, which
we're changed at the same time.

I would suggest trying a set, to see for yourself.

Joe
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FlySig
Posted 2014-11-08 9:20 AM (#500717 - in reply to #487374)
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Rollei, how would you describe the tone of the TI Plectrums compared to regular phosphor bronze strings? Marketing descriptions for every brand of string promises more warmth and more brightness and more overtones. Several members here have recommended the Plectrum but I am not sure which guitar would be a better fit for that string.
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Rolleijoe
Posted 2014-11-08 1:59 PM (#500729 - in reply to #500717)
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FlySig - 2014-11-08 9:20 AM

Rollei, how would you describe the tone of the TI Plectrums compared to regular phosphor bronze strings? Marketing descriptions for every brand of string promises more warmth and more brightness and more overtones. Several members here have recommended the Plectrum but I am not sure which guitar would be a better fit for that string.


Rich, full bass, perfect highs. They last forever compared to regular phosphor bronze strings.
For almost 30 years I used nothing but Martin Marquis. A friend of mine gave me a set
of the Plectrums, and that's all I've been using ever since, for the past several years.

Wish I'd tried them sooner. Makes me want to go back and re-record everything! I get mine
from the online seller in N.C. And, TI warranty is great. The g string on my 67 Höfner bass
mysteriously broke after a year. I called the distributor who immediately sent a replacement
string, only asked I send the broken one back to them.

Super fantastic customer service. Could not recommend them more highly.
Good luck with yours.

Joe
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Darkbar
Posted 2014-11-08 3:40 PM (#500732 - in reply to #500729)
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For $6 or $7, it's worth trying out a set of A/B's. If you don't like 'em, no big deal. But I'm betting you will....
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Geostorm98
Posted 2014-11-09 12:27 PM (#500750 - in reply to #487374)
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Bought 5 sets, just tested them. Very nice on a Millenium. Thanks for the tip.

By the way BobG db, are you actually related to DaveKell and also represent Conant handmade Guitars, I read it on the internet. Likely a silly rumor of course.
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nerdydave
Posted 2014-11-09 4:21 PM (#500752 - in reply to #487374)
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I have a newfound respect for Bob G. after listening to some of his guitar lessons on acoustisongs. I can no longer dismiss him simply as Dave Kells's identical twin separated at birth! I am not sure if he was using a Conant or not but it sure sounded good!
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Darkbar
Posted 2014-11-09 5:43 PM (#500757 - in reply to #487374)
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Wait, WHAT!!!!
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guitarwannabee
Posted 2014-11-09 9:01 PM (#500765 - in reply to #487374)
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looks like the big secret is finally out
man up bob , it is time for you to come out of the closet. GWB
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Posted 2014-11-09 11:00 PM (#500767 - in reply to #500765)
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guitarwannabee - 2014-11-09 7:01 PM

looks like the big secret is finally out
man up bob , it is time for you to come out of the closet. GWB

Yup, in the closet half brother and sister.....
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nerdydave
Posted 2014-11-10 12:07 AM (#500769 - in reply to #487374)
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And Dave Kell himself has already said that he is glad the subterfuge is finally over. You are not, however, welcome to appropriate his finest of Conants!
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tpa
Posted 2014-11-10 1:35 AM (#500772 - in reply to #487374)
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This is going to be a good day.

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Darkbar
Posted 2014-11-10 6:14 AM (#500775 - in reply to #487374)
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I have NEVER slept with Duane Allman, or even been ON his tour bus!
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Weaser P
Posted 2014-11-10 7:27 AM (#500777 - in reply to #487374)
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Not making that cut wasn't a bad thing, Bob.

Plan B of getting ON the Coco Chanel bus probably was...
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DaveKell
Posted 2014-11-10 8:15 AM (#500778 - in reply to #500775)
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darkbarguitar - 2014-11-10 6:14 AM

I have NEVER slept with Duane Allman, or even been ON his tour bus!


Ever since we've been little kids you've done this thing to rile me. Mom always sat you in a corner for it. Dad always encouraged you and that's why I detest him. Fortunately mom always liked me best. I assure you I told nobody you were my half brother, per our agreement when you turned me onto this place. I'm sorry nerd let the secret out. But to quote Homer Simpson, "what're ya gonna do?"
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nerdydave
Posted 2014-11-10 8:29 AM (#500779 - in reply to #487374)
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There you have it! Straight from the horses's mouth!! Nothing more to say!! Thanks DaveKell for being so honest and forthright about a topic so many would rather see swept under the rug.
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arumako
Posted 2014-11-10 9:44 AM (#500781 - in reply to #487374)
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What the...
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2014-11-10 10:06 AM (#500782 - in reply to #487374)
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Dave, was it your Mom who turned Bob onto those girlie shirts?
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Darkbar
Posted 2014-11-10 12:02 PM (#500783 - in reply to #500782)
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Actually, DaveKell was adopted, after his crackhead mom gave him up. The brain damage wasn't apparent at first, but he's done fairly well, all things considered...
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2014-11-10 12:46 PM (#500785 - in reply to #487374)
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Bob, your Avatar makes me suspect that Dave might not be the stepbrother with the brain damage.
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rick endres
Posted 2014-11-12 8:23 AM (#500831 - in reply to #487374)
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Back on topic here... ^_^

Bob - you said you got the light gauge, I think? I'm getting arthritis in my fretting hand, and I'm looking for something that's E-A-S-Y to play. It's gotten to the point where I've tuned down 1/2 step and have a permanent capo on the first fret (yes, the nut was filed down by a master luthier; it's a 1971 Balladeer that's set up about as perfectly as is humanly possible). I'm using D'addario extra light bronze on it.Tuning down and capoing isn't a real issue; I'm not advanced enough to use the dots on the neck. I also play a lot of James Taylor and Lightfoot, so I use the capo A LOT, and am used to it. But I think I would like to be able to tune to concert pitch like the rest of the kids, and I'm looking for any advice I can get.

Thoughts?
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Darkbar
Posted 2014-11-12 1:48 PM (#500838 - in reply to #487374)
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Well, Rick, I wouldn't say the A/B's are any easier to play than P/B's. I personally don't have an answer for you. I usually always tune down a step and capo up E. THAT is a little easier, but if you don't want to do that, then I can't think of a "softer" string...
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2014-11-12 3:00 PM (#500843 - in reply to #487374)
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Rick... Have you tried "Silk-n-Steel" strings?
They are very easy to play, almost like nylon.
I have them on my 1114 Folklore and the sound great, and are surprisingly loud.
I got them because SnS strings have a much lighter tension, and the 1114 has had a rough life.
The brand is Martin Marquis M1400.
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rick endres
Posted 2014-11-12 3:32 PM (#500846 - in reply to #487374)
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Arthur - that sounds like a plan. Do you know if they sound good amplified? I read that they're good for fingerpicking, which I do a lot of. Thanks; I may try that on my Balladeer, and possibly my CS257.

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Geostorm98
Posted 2014-11-12 3:53 PM (#500847 - in reply to #487374)
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I tried recording with the EB Alum Bronze 12-54 strings. They are very crisp and powerful for fingerstyle and the strumming sound is pretty huge. That said a purist might wish for a softer feel or tone...but with my old ears that are missing some high end these things sounded great recorded straight onto ZoomH2 SD card. The fingerpicking really rang out..sometimes that super crisp sound of changing chords sounds cool on a playback. I really sensed the difference of material, the aluminum bronze is quite a bit brighter, maybe not for everyone though.
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rick endres
Posted 2014-11-13 10:49 AM (#500868 - in reply to #487374)
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GHS makes acoustic silk & steel strings that are gauged 10 to 42 from high to low. That’s an even lighter gauge than the Martins. Might be interesting…

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d'ovation
Posted 2014-11-13 1:36 PM (#500874 - in reply to #487374)
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As we are on the string topic ... for you O (in particular 12-string) do you prefer to remove ALL strings (so some cleaning and inspection can be done) before putting on a fresh set, or do you prefer to replace string by string individually to maintain overall tension on the guitar?
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Posted 2014-11-13 2:45 PM (#500875 - in reply to #487374)
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Remove all the strings. Clean the guitar, oil the fretboard. Instruments in he violon family need constant tension simply so the soundpost doesn't fall over. (They are a bear to get back into the right place.) But you don't need to keep tension on the guitar.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2014-11-13 3:10 PM (#500877 - in reply to #487374)
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99% of the time I do like CS says. It's a good opportunity to clean and oil the fretboard and check things over well. I remember doing it the other way, but can't remember why. Possibly because I only replaced one string, or less likely, that I had recently cleaned and oiled the fretboard.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2014-11-13 3:46 PM (#500881 - in reply to #500846)
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rick endres - 2014-11-12 1:32 PM

Arthur - that sounds like a plan. Do you know if they sound good amplified? I read that they're good for fingerpicking, which I do a lot of. Thanks; I may try that on my Balladeer, and possibly my CS257.

Yes, Silk-n-Steel sound good amplified.
They sound different, like any string change.
And they last a long time, which surprised me.
(I thought that I would kill them quickly)

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Leo
Posted 2014-11-15 1:50 AM (#500932 - in reply to #487374)
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Hello Rick,

Have you tunned your guitar with James Taylor sweetened method? It sounds very nice, and tune his guitar a few cents down per string:

http://www.jamestaylor.com/guitar/lesson-five-bonus-video/

If you play fingerstyle, I agree with Arthur that silk and steel is hard to beat, but the king of confort and sound in fingerstyle is the thomastik plectrum, specialized on old instruments, and people looking for easy playing.

Check the sound of this strings:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xcZKTTbBEQ

Where they sell, and fans opinions:

http://www.juststrings.com/toi-ac111.html

Good luck in your search
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DetlefMichel
Posted 2014-11-15 7:31 AM (#500935 - in reply to #500932)
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I use the THOMASTIK Plectrum .11-50 on all guitars. Especially on 12strings it is a new world, really. These strings need more maintenance (string cleaner like fast fret or similar) than others but sound so much better and are very easy to play and go easy on old guitar tops.
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SOBeach
Posted 2015-04-23 12:14 PM (#509255 - in reply to #487374)
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Last week I picked up a set of the Ernie Ball Aluminum Bronze strings. Put 'em on my daily player, the 1667 Legend cutaway.  I got the Medium Lights (12, 16, 24, 32, 44, 54), 'cause I tune down to D-standard (for my vocal range) and the heavier gauge strings help keep up the tension.

 

Ernie Ball states these strings have "bigger tone" and "more projection than phosphor bronze" and have "enhanced bass tones, punchier mids, and crisp / clear highs."  Well, to my ears, their claims are legit.  I like 'em!  Depending on how long they last, I may have new "favorite" stings. At least for my 1667.

 

Thanks for the recommendation BobG.  

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Geostorm98
Posted 2015-04-23 12:38 PM (#509258 - in reply to #509255)
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I like them a lot SOBeach. I play about an hour/day and have found the strings sound good for around a month or so. At that point I'm ready to change them out and get that crispness back.
PS-I always give them a quick wipe down after use and store my guitar in its case.

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Darkbar
Posted 2015-04-23 4:05 PM (#509271 - in reply to #487374)
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Yeah, I still really like 'em
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Craigb
Posted 2015-04-23 9:07 PM (#509291 - in reply to #487374)
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I like the EB A/B strings the best. I have tried EJ16's, Silk and Steel, Elixirs...the EB have the best sound and hold up very well.
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Beal
Posted 2015-04-28 9:39 PM (#509553 - in reply to #487374)
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I guess I gotta try some of those ab strangs. Thanks for the tip BobG. Sorry to hear about your half brother buti guess that splains somethings.
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Darkbar
Posted 2015-04-29 5:56 AM (#509558 - in reply to #487374)
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Don't ever mention my half-brother in mixed company again!
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Beal
Posted 2015-04-29 10:20 AM (#509565 - in reply to #487374)
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Did I ever tell you the real story behind your avatar picture?
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Darkbar
Posted 2015-04-29 1:10 PM (#509572 - in reply to #487374)
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Actually, yeah. When we were at the Paul Thorne concert. VERY funny story.
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Beal
Posted 2015-05-01 4:05 PM (#509706 - in reply to #487374)
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And true as well
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Beal
Posted 2015-05-01 4:06 PM (#509707 - in reply to #487374)
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And true as well
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TAFKAR
Posted 2015-05-02 12:45 AM (#509744 - in reply to #509707)
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cwk2 - 2015-05-02 9:06 AM

And true as well



Good one Beal, just leave the other 11,456 of us hanging!
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2015-06-17 3:45 PM (#511648 - in reply to #487374)
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Kind of a PSA...
I just bought 10 sets of THESE for $20. FX130 Silk & Phosphor.
They arrived today, and I put some on my 44 year-old 1121. They sound good.
And they are $2 a set. This price probably won't last.
I ordered another 10 sets. MF sez that I saved $149.
So, if you need some really light tension strings for an old guitar, here's a deal.


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