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Location: Phoenix AZ | Here's some shots of the swanky custom tuner buttons from Paul Templeman. Very nice stuff.
Walnut buttons on an Adamas OFC Slothead:
Tortie buttons on a Lost Art Vintage Koa Slothead:
Grained Ivoriod buttons on a Custom Legend Slothead:
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They all look good... Really like the Walnut on the RI Slots...
Did you put a pair of the Torties on your FD14?
I've got a set of Walnut for the 47 and a set of Torties for the FD14, though I already have and like Real Ebony on it...
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Location: Scotland | Originally posted by Jeff W.:
I'm going to apply gold tone to the ferrels for my guitars with gold machines... You know, I thought about making some with brass inserts, but it would have got a little too unweidly. I already have 4 different materials in 2 button sizes. Offering a chrome/gold insert option would have been a nightmare. Guitars with chrome hardware are far more common than gold, so that's what we went with. I'm working on a fix where the insert is counter-sunk and flush, which will happen if we can make the collar smaller and if I can absorb the cost and keep the retail price where it is now. I could have them made without the insert, but the insert pretty much ensures they won't split under tension, like the Schaller ones have been known to.
Dave, GREAT pics, thanks!
Incidently, second batch of full-size walnut sold out within 2 days of me receiving the shipment. I still have some walnut mini. I have stock of rosewood, tortie and ivoroid in both sizes, but full-size ivoroid are running low. |
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The buttons are beautiful and those you sent me are very well made. I also understand that most machine hardware is silver...
I'm guessing that, most of us at the OFC were buying for gold machines and I suspect that your buttons, as AfterMarket-UpGrades are going to be evaluated by "Uptight Aesthetes" , though I clearly don't count myself among them.
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | Those walnut ones look VERY cool. I put ebony ones on the black Adamas I and they look really nice too, but the walnut ones really go with that walnut headstock. Nice work! |
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| I never liked the tort shell nor the ivory although these appear to be very well made.
Those Walunt tuners are fantastic though! Ya got me thinking. They really stand out on that carved slothead. I am thinking about carving a design on the edges like the famous Stradovarius Violins used to have on their tuning pegs.
Nice stuff Paul
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Those are STUNNING! The walnut just beckons as a sailors siren...
The torties would be a perfect match for my Classic.
Beautiful work!
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Location: Scotland | Originally posted by 2ifbyC:
Just an afterthought; could one find brass eyelets of the proper size to go 'gold'? see my post above |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Very nice pics, Dave. I wish I was that good with a camera. I did the same thing on the OFC and Koala guitars, and then installed the ivoroids on the VXT which has very similar if not matching layered ivoroid binding on the body and neck. These buttons are stunning.
Thanks for keeping us supplied, Temp. Now, if you could only send over some Tribal Planet cases as well. Seems like nobody is carrying them in the states anymore. |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Originally posted by Paul Templeman:
Originally posted by 2ifbyC:
Just an afterthought; could one find brass eyelets of the proper size to go 'gold'? see my post above |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | By the way ...
These buttons also fit Gotoh tuners. So let's get busy upgrading those Takamines! I'll take some Tak headstock shots and post on the other board.
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Location: big island | very classy upgrade! i'd like to get 12 walnut buttons for my 1688. this salty air wreaks havoc on the metallic buttons. where do i go to apply? |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by lanaki:
where do i go to apply? Just PM master templeman.
A cool suggestion (by Paul) for 12-strings is to alternate pearliod and ivoroid on the mains and octaves respectovely. That way it's easy to grab the correct one to tune.
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Location: Tennessee | I put a set of the walnuts on my OFC over the weekend. It looks just like the first three pictures above. Also bought a set of the rosewood ones for another guitar. They are great quality. |
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Location: big island | just got my walnut tuner buttons for the 1688 from templeman. my camera is not the quality of tupperware's but here's some before and afters. one thing is for sure: the guitar is noticeably lighter!
these are quality tuner buttons and i like the feel of them. also, in this weather, i don't have to worry about the metal pitting nor do i need to wipe the buttons after tuning. mahalo, paul! |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Wow, Randy, thats really nice! Guess the 1688-5 is going to get an upgrade! What a difference! |
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Location: Vernon CT | Wow!!!! Randy, that is one classy looking "O"
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Location: Munich, Germany | Paul did a great job here.
Now, let's force him to do some of those:
They would be great for our Adamas Slotheads!
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Photograph taken (without permission) from ovationtribute.com |
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Location: NJ | Some of the proto Slots had tuner buttons like that.
In fact, the Original SlotHead DRAWING shows a version of those buttons on the guitar . . .
Repros of those WOULD be cool! |
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Location: south east Michigan | Geez.. just looking at those walnut tuners make we want to go our a buy a guitar just to match.
Nice stuff.
Top drawer for sure. |
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by Slipkid:
Geez.. just looking at those walnut tuners make we want to go our a buy a guitar just to match.
Nice stuff.
Top drawer for sure. "go our a buy a guitar"???
Go get some coffee Brad.
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Location: south east Michigan | Paul.. you shoulda been an english teacher.
Okay.. go OUT and buy a guitar...
Geez... whata buzz kill. :) |
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Location: East Tennessee | Brad,
Download this;
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I use it and still screw up. :confused: |
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Location: Munich, Germany | Those are the tuner buttons on Adamas Proto #23.
Proto 23 on ovationtribute
Wouldn't it be cool to have them for our slotheads?
Hey Paul T., chime in and say: "No problem, I'll make them for you!"
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Location: big island | proto #23 is a dark and mysterious guitar. those tuners suit it. |
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Location: SoCal | See, this is what I really like about this board. Just when I start feeling like I know way too much about Ovations and their history, somebody chimes in with a bit of trivia like the tuners on this prototype and it makes me feel fairly normal again, like I'm not quite as anal as I thought...... |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Why would you want to feel normal? And Cliff, I assume the "f*&@ing reissues" opinion doesn't apply to these tuner buttons. I guess if we have reissue guitars we can get reissue or reproduction buttons. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Temp is hiding... |
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Location: NJ | ". . I assume the "f*&@ing reissues" opinion doesn't apply to these tuner buttons . ."
If the Repro Buttons don't have an adverse effect on the Market Value of the Originals, . . . no. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I think you're safe with the buttons and the guitars. The reissues may have increased the desirability of the originals. For those who couldn't afford an original, the reissue may be the next best thing. I can't imagine anyone thinking they'd rather have a reissue than an original, but I've often been wrong, especially concerning marketing. |
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Location: Munich, Germany | In fact, I am not a fan of reissues. They are never the same than the original is.
For example, if Mercedes would make a reissue of the 300 SL Gullwing, it would have an Airbag, Servo-Steering and lots of other electronics, that won't give you the feel of theoriginal car that it's supposed to be.
Different with guitars. Okay, the OFX Slothead had the newer electronics, but in all other things it was quite near to the original pre-series guitars.
And I am happy to have the chance to get one of this great sounding guitars today. Just because of the sound they provide, not for the history.
And with Al making it possible to order one of them in the colour you want, like my 1187-7, that suits your own wishes - it's even better. Not because it's a fake original, but you'll get a guitar that has the sound the factory doesn't list on stock anymore.
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Location: Scotland | Originally posted by Mr. Ovation:
Temp is hiding... Hey, I don't care, if you like'em, buy'em. If you don't that's OK too. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | There's a side of me that says only an original will do. But at the same time I have no problem at all with aftermarket breasts. Go figure.
The reissues are wonderful guitars in every way. But the originals have more soul. You choose.
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Originally posted by Paul Templeman:
Originally posted by Mr. Ovation:
Temp is hiding... Hey, I don't care, if you like'em, buy'em. If you don't that's OK too. |
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Location: Scotland | OK, I misinterpreted that post. I've downloaded the pic on Kurts post and I'll try to clean it up in photoshop so I have a good close up. If anyone has better pics, or better still a drawing, that would help. If they can be made they would need to be pre-ordered, I'm not going to have a bunch of these made on that chance that some people "might" buy them. Once I know If they can be made, and I have a price, I can take orders. I'll need orders for 6, maybe 10 sets to make it viable |
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Location: Tidal Mudflats of Virginia | Paul,
Got your PM, I'll hold off until you can see about getting these carved up ones from Kurt's posting.
If you can get them in the Walnut, I'll take two sets for my slotheads.
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Location: Munich, Germany | Paul,
I'll take two sets. In this link there are more pics of them:
Proto 23
And the original patent, but it's not very detailed:
Original Slothead Patent drawing
Would be great if you'd make them possible.
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I've got a detailed drawing I can send you.
I just need t'scan a small section off a big drawing.
LemmeSee what I can do . .. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Paul, I'll take a set as well for my reissue.
I hink the 08 will be better with a walnut set that you have now (or will have soon).
Also:
The reissues are wonderful guitars in every way. But the originals have more soul. You choose.
Mojo is not available as a reissue: it must be experienced! |
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There's a goodly-sized .jpeg and a .pdf of below on it's way to you.
LemmeKnow if by chance you need a cleaner LineDrawing
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Location: Germany | I'm in, I take one set of the carved buttons. Thanks Paul for the effort.
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Location: Scotland | Cliff, a clearer line drawing will be a help, thanks. Once I have that I should know in a couple of days if it's possible. |
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | Depending on the price I may be interested in 2 sets. Definitely 1! |
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Location: NJ | GoodIdea.
I'll just need t'compare the drawing up against my guitar to check the sizing.
It's a 2ndGeneration copy of a C-sized drawing, and I just wanna ensure it's accuracy. |
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | Hey ... Kaman may want to buy them from YOU. (: |
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Location: SoCal | ?? I'll need orders for 6, maybe 10 sets to make it viable ??
Paul, I'll take six sets :D |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | I'm good for a few as well. Those tuners were only used on that one guitar and they were cast epoxy. Get the drawings and tweek as necessary. They'd be nice in walnut!
Original vs Reissue. Usually the reissue doesn't come close enough and gives them all a bad rep. Like the VW Beetle.
In this case it's a bit like the two Doobie Brothers Bands, The originals are so cool because of what they are but they do have warts, and not all the same warts. These reissues are faithful to the original design and concept but are qualitywise much better guitars. Except for the one with the Witco lable, and that one didn't even get cashews!
I've heard similar things about the Cobras. The original cars were the spoo, but the redos are smoother and better to drive. SOooo you just got to make your choice. |
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by Mauvais Beal:
Except for the one with the Witco lable, and that one didn't even get cashews! So are you telling us that Witko's in for some surprises regarding his special order guitars? Something built into them of which he's unaware? Cool....... |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Much as I like to compare cars and guitars, it just can't be done with reissues. Faithful reissues of cars wouldn't pass as driveable today. Sometimes the memories are just better than the reality. I had a Porsche that I thought was the greatest and regretted selling it. Then when I drove the same model years later, I couldn't believe how primitive it was. Old guitars are more primitive than the new ones, but the difference isn't so dramatic. |
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Location: Scotland | Originally posted by Beggin:
Paul, what would you recommend for a 1681-8 and a 1685-5? For the 1681 full-size walnut (out of stock, but on the way) 1685 walnut minis. |
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How do I get info (pricing,styles) on the buttons you sell? |
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Location: Scotland | Click this link.
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Location: Paris/France | I get my set of walnut buttons today and they look great !!!
I'm now waiting for my next Ovation to put them on it... ;)
I'll also be glad to have a set of carved buttons for the Proto #11.
I already have changed the original chrome tuners with a gold set especially made for me by the Schaller factory.
These carved buttons would be a great addition to the proto.
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I would like to order the standard size walnut tuner buttons! so if you would put me on the list.I have a 1768 elite..... Sure would look GREAT!!!
THANKS!!!
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If anyone is moving from the original mini buttons to the larger sized buttons , as I am doing, you will need longer screws to seat the buttons. |
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Location: Scotland | That's strange. I've done that on a few of mine and the mini screws worked fine. |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | This is on the 47. I didn't think I'd need different screws either but, with the bushing and the washer in place, I can't get the original screws to work.
No one else has run into this?
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Location: Scotland | My Custom Folklore has the same mimi machines as my 47. I changed from the stock Schaller black plastic "ebony" buttons to full size Pearloid and then I decided I prefered the minis and changed to mini ivoroid.
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Issue resolved ...
after reading Paul's post I went back and tried another machine...
I discovered that the worm on the first machine was ever-so-slightly "hung-up" inside the housing, preventing the screw from seating.
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Location: Scotland | Jeff, it worked just fine. Checked the 47 and my 1773LX, both took full size buttons using the existing mini screws.
When you take off the button make sure the worm stays flush with the body of the tuner. When you slacken off the screw it has a tendency to work it's way out of the tuner body slightly, especially if there's still a little tension on the string. If you don't push it back flush that might be causing the problem. |
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Location: Scotland | Just received new stock this morning. Plenty of everything except F/S Rosewood is out of stock. So currently available stock is
Walnut - Full size & mini
Grained Ivoroid - Full size & mini
Tortoiseshell - Full size & mini
Rosewood - Mini only
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Originally posted by Paul Templeman:
Carved may or may not happen, but I know that if they do they'll be at least $200 per set. In which event, an updated roll call should be in the offing. |
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Location: Tidal Mudflats of Virginia | Here! - one carved set - $200 |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Say, Tim, how about a carved set for your doubleneck? That's 18 buttons to you, my friend. Ante up! |
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Location: Brisbane Australia | Walnut for the JR Deacon just arrived today
Thanks Paul
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Location: Jet City | Originally posted by Paul Templeman:
Update: Rosewood full size now discontinued, a few sets of rosewood mini still available. on the next run the rosewoods will be replaced with........KOA!!!!! :( |
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Location: Cincinnati | Received the walnut for the 1581 and they look great. now if I can just get my friend to return the 1581.
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Location: Jet City | I was looking to pop them on the Tak.
Paul, I'd like the rosewood. If I need to send you $ in advance, just let me know.
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| I'm not much of a photographer, but here's a shot of my new contour bowl balladeer lx with a set of the full size grained ivoroid..... last of the USAs in this model... also the deal of the century!
Thanks Alpep! and Thanks Master Templeman for getting these produced for us!
Great News!!! my newest granddaughter Lydia Lynne Rindge started walking today, and Char was released from the hospital! she'll be getting OT, PT, and Home Care from the Hospital.. and they'll have the therapists and nurses down a couple times a week. and Char gets to do nothing but rest, recover, and get stronger.
Thanks for the prayers all, it's sure nice to have her home..
Paul, when are you going to have ebonys in stock?
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Location: Sydney, Australia | That sure looks nice Glen. I've got a set of walnut minis waiting for the '08. Wish Char well. |
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Location: Scotland | Originally posted by Malabar Glenn:
Paul, when are you going to have ebonys in stock?
Glenn Glenn, I don't bother producing ebony, as ebony buttons are readily available as a Schaller part. Check out StewMac |
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Location: Cincinnati | Paul,
Let me know when the Koa buttons come in. I definitely want a set for my Tacoma EKK19C. |
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Location: Scotland | will do. |
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Location: Jet City | Paul, I just tried to send you a PM, but you're box is full.
I'd like to order some walnuts for the 1537, and would like to know what I need to do to do a special order for the rosewood ones.
Thanks
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Location: Scotland | Damon, mailbox cleared out, please resend. |
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