The perfect companion for my O's !!!
Jérôme
Posted 2008-02-11 2:57 PM (#55356)
Subject: The perfect companion for my O's !!!



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Hello,

As you know, we're nut of Marcel Dadi's music in France...
Marcel was one of the best to promote Ovation guitars in the 70's/80's in Europe.
In the late 70's, Marcel has developed with "Musique Industrie" a mythic amp called the "Charlie" in honor of Mr Charles Kaman (more information on THIS PAGE)
For us in France, we can't separate O's sound from that amp.

Yesterday, I was lucky enough to get my own original "Charlie" in very very good condition.
This is the small model (Charlie Junior 50W) but it sounds like a big one!!!
It was built for acoustic or electric guitars with 2 channels and a reverb.
I'm sure that I'll be able to find lots of better new amps models for less that what I've paid for this one but none with that unique sound.
It's a Charlie and that's all what I was looking for...

I'm glad to share my joy and a picture with you.

J :)



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lanaki
Posted 2008-02-11 3:00 PM (#55357 - in reply to #55356)
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wow! how cool is that, jerome? congratulations! you are starting to look alot like marcel...
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Tupperware
Posted 2008-02-11 3:08 PM (#55358 - in reply to #55356)
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The official white thumb pick ...

Contratulations Jerome. I know you wanted one of those for a long time. I'm really happy for you. Grow a beard, buy a scarf and you're almost there ...

Btw, you look a lot more like Marcel Dadi than does Moody looks like Glen Campbell.

Dave
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Jeff W.
Posted 2008-02-11 3:23 PM (#55359 - in reply to #55356)
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Tres Kewl, Jerome


Btw, you look a lot more like Marcel Dadi than does Moody looks like Glen Campbell.
. . . Not once Paul gets the surgery.
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Arnaud
Posted 2008-02-11 3:26 PM (#55360 - in reply to #55356)
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I know how great this is for you Jerome.
This one seems to be in very good condition.
Ready for Marcel's sound !!
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cliff
Posted 2008-02-11 3:27 PM (#55361 - in reply to #55356)
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What's "written" on the guitar, anyway??
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Beal
Posted 2008-02-11 3:31 PM (#55362 - in reply to #55356)
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that's where Glen's mother signed it
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Jeff W.
Posted 2008-02-11 3:32 PM (#55363 - in reply to #55356)
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. . . . ."This End On Knee" . . . .
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Tupperware
Posted 2008-02-11 3:34 PM (#55364 - in reply to #55356)
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... "In the event of a water landing your guitar can also serve as a floatation device" ...
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Arnaud
Posted 2008-02-11 3:45 PM (#55365 - in reply to #55356)
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Originally posted by cliff:
What's "written" on the guitar, anyway??
It is written :
"To Marcel my Friend"
signed "Chet Atkins"

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Beggin
Posted 2008-02-11 3:48 PM (#55366 - in reply to #55356)
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Sweet Arnaud! What's up with the glove?
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Jeff W.
Posted 2008-02-11 3:52 PM (#55367 - in reply to #55356)
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Originally posted by Tupperware:
... "In the event of a water landing your guitar can also serve as a floatation device" ...
OK... that made me blow a snot bubble...
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stonebobbo
Posted 2008-02-11 3:54 PM (#55368 - in reply to #55356)
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Originally posted by BegginJIM:
Sweet Arnaud! What's up with the glove?
Marcel performs his own stylized version of "Billie Jean".
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Arnaud
Posted 2008-02-11 3:56 PM (#55369 - in reply to #55356)
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Originally posted by BegginJIM:
Sweet Arnaud! What's up with the glove?
I don't know exactly the story behind this image Jim.
Perhaps a guitarist joke or one of Marcel's training secret :confused: :confused:
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Capo Guy
Posted 2008-02-11 4:36 PM (#55370 - in reply to #55356)
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Originally posted by Jeff W.:
. . . . ."This End On Knee" . . . .


Jerome,

If that amp sounds half as good as it looks it must be a killer.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-02-11 4:39 PM (#55371 - in reply to #55356)
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Too bad he started playing Taylors in the 90's. Luckily, Jerome and others didn't follow him on that silly path.....
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Jérôme
Posted 2008-02-11 4:58 PM (#55372 - in reply to #55356)
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Thanks!!!

It sounds very good and my Coutry Artist is not the same on that amp.
B
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Jérôme
Posted 2008-02-11 5:13 PM (#55373 - in reply to #55356)
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Thanks!!!
That's right that I was looking for this model since a long time.

It sounds very good and my Coutry Artist is not the same on that amp.
In the 70's, Marcel was only playing Ovation that's why the Charlie was custom made for Ovation and Adamas.
2 samples of that amp sound with an Adamas and a Gretsch both played by my friend Pascal:
BLUE FINGER
NINE POUND HAMMER

Before to look like Marcel, I should loose some weight and to learn how to play guitar. :D
If only I could have a very small part of his talent...

Paul, to be really honest, I don't like Taylor guitars even if they are very easy to play.
And for the price of a Taylor, I can have an Adamas made under my specifications with a much better sound to my ears...

J :)
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-02-11 5:46 PM (#55374 - in reply to #55356)
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Jerome,

You and I are in total agreement on Taylors. I would guess that Marcel was playing them because he got the Taylor distributorship in France and was promoting them to sell them.....
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2008-02-11 5:53 PM (#55375 - in reply to #55356)
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They are great amps. Dadi was several years ahead of the rest of the industry in identifying the need for an amplifier designed specfically for acoustic instruments. The only problem is the weight, they are ball-breakers. At least Jerome got one of the (slightly) lighter examples
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Jérôme
Posted 2008-02-11 6:11 PM (#55376 - in reply to #55356)
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We've discussed here in the past about the "divorce" between Ovation and Marcel and only a few knows the true story... ;)
I'm not sure that I really want to know the true story because Marcel is gone and the story is now a legend!!

Paul Temp is right, that amp is heavy like a "dead horse"!! (a french expression, maybe the same in English... :D )
The weight is 27kg (= 59.52 pounds) and the big model (80W) is probably more than 40kg (= 88 pounds). :eek:
The guy who sold it to me told me that the weight was one of Marcel's specification for that amp.
Probably because it sounds better like that??

J :)
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-02-11 6:29 PM (#55377 - in reply to #55356)
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Probably part of a health/weight lifting program.

JJ Cale once said that his "sound is no bigger than his back"....
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2008-02-11 6:29 PM (#55378 - in reply to #55356)
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Jerome, the amplifier cabinet is made from top-quality marine ply, getting on for an inch thick. The rigidity of this is a better bet for a good sounding enclousure than cheap materials like MDF used by some maufacturers, but it makes for a heavy box. The other factor is the speaker. The handful of Charlie amps I've seen had (if memory serves) Electrovoice speakers with huge voicecoils and baskets, and they weigh a ton. I've given up on using kit like this now. Bose and Phil Jones is the way to go
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lanaki
Posted 2008-02-11 6:32 PM (#55379 - in reply to #55356)
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now we know why marcel is wearing the glove.
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Beal
Posted 2008-02-11 8:27 PM (#55380 - in reply to #55356)
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Only a few know the true story aboout the divorce...
What divorce???

He got the Taylor distributorship and switched to them then to promote them. Nothing personal, just business.
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an4340
Posted 2008-02-11 8:41 PM (#55381 - in reply to #55356)
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Sounds like a really good amp with a unique voice. Very impressive.
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Weaser P
Posted 2008-02-11 8:54 PM (#55382 - in reply to #55356)
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Congrats, Jerome. Very nice. Hope it sounds as nice as it looks.
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Jérôme
Posted 2008-02-12 1:15 AM (#55383 - in reply to #55356)
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Thanks Beal, I've understood.

J :)
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Damon67
Posted 2008-02-12 3:35 AM (#55384 - in reply to #55356)
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There shoulda been a smaller one... A Charlie Jr...

Or better yet, the Billy! :D
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Beal
Posted 2008-02-12 8:39 AM (#55385 - in reply to #55356)
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bite me
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Tom_CA
Posted 2008-02-12 8:55 AM (#55386 - in reply to #55356)
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Jerome's Amp is actually called the "Charlie junior", the normal Charlie is 80W RMS.
Musique industrie also built a white anniversary model.
you can see the Charlie anniversary on the left and Charlie on the right.

tom
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schroeder
Posted 2008-02-12 11:53 AM (#55387 - in reply to #55356)
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Very nice - looks like an old radio we had in the fifties. The radio was actually bigger.
Congratulations Monsieur J.
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AW
Posted 2008-02-12 11:57 AM (#55388 - in reply to #55356)
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Congrats, Jerome... Have fun....
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