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| This may be a really dumb question, but it won't be my first, or last for that matter. If the body of the standard Ovation is not considered a Dread, what is it? I've always thought that they were dreads, but have recently been informed otherwise. What would they be closest to in size? |
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Location: Scotland | In terms of air volume a deep bowl Ovation is probably close-ish to a standard dreadnought. Fortunately that's where any comparison ends. |
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Location: Brisbane Australia | As a matter of interest did Ovation ever build what could be considered a "Jumbo" guitar?
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Location: Upper Left USA | Al has... the only one!
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Location: Scotland | That's a great guitar. |
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Location: Nashville TN. | I have thought that might make an interesting collectors edition as a super jumbo. |
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Location: Brisbane Australia | ..for now...
Another MWoody project Mike? :D |
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Location: Upper Left USA | I had my hands on Al's (Wooden top Adamas 1537 predescessor dreadnaught) during the 2006 OFC Tour and although it had older strings than most GC Wall Hangers, it was still lovely.
I do have a semi-evil plan to split a fiberglass bowl and re-glass it. I also plan to do a lot of things... |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Since the size topic has come up, is there a parlor size Ovation?
The reason I ask is that I'm 'gathering' ol' Ovations for my Grandbabies futures. I would love to adopt several smaller 'O's for their younger years. |
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Location: Scotland | The 97 collectors was the first parlour guitar, a 12-fret solt-head, centre-hole which came in 2 neck widths and had a unique preamp. It's a great guitar. There was a short-lived 14-fret Elite-style parlour size and a very rare Celebrity version. None are particularly common. |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Applause do a 3/4 and 1/2 size in nylon and steel string. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | So... size does matter, but isn't always popular?
I have been doing some reading and amongst the topics were Heimholtz and overtones and what/how we interpret the sounds to call them music. Couple that with what industrial/Technology was available to build instruments and you could have endless discussions on the "right" size of a guitar.
I'll buy the first round of Root Beer... |
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Location: East Tennessee | The body shape of an Ovation is very close to a Martin 000. I just compared the two side by side.
As for sound a deep bowl Ovation will project more sound. My Folklore is a louder sounding guitar than my 000 Martin.
Woody, can I have a scoop of Vanilla ice cream with my rootbeer? |
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Location: Louisville, OH 44641 | Is there a picture available of Al's super jumbo Ovation? I'd like to see that. I also think it would make an interesting Collector's model. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | There's a picture on Al's website.
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | That's what I've been suggesting for a while here. A wood topped Adamas I(cedar preferred)
Nobody at the factory would respond when I asked about me sending in a 1537 as a base instrument for the project. I don't really blame them. It seems like it would be a nightmare to construct. Particularly when it came to trying to use an Adamas binding on a wood top.
But then again ... they would probably try anything if the price was right. |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Notwithstanding depth, the Tak75 and the 1581/1651 deep bowls have approximately the same top footprint shapes. I use one soft-sided Tribal Planet case to carry these guitars without changing the location any of the internal case foam padding. Incidently, by exchanging the internal padding for a custom foam insert, I can use the same case for the EA Vipers, VXT and the Hamer Improv. It would probably fit the Les Paul, maybe the Telecaster, and most of the older Ovation solids as well, although I don't typically gig with these. I like to maximize the "one case fits all" theory of guitar hauling. |
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Location: NJ | Those TribalPlanet bags're the best! |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Second that!
There were a few other Dread sized fiberglass backs made. Al's is probably the only one still alive. |
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Location: CT | Isn't Als guitar a dreadnought size? When I see "Super Jumbo" I think Gibson J-200, or a Guild F-50. Jumbo is a different shape than dread. And in either case, a different shape than the O. Why does an Ovation have to fit a mold classified by other guitars? It's Ovation shaped, because there's no other guitar with quite the same proportions. Interior volume maybe, but not identically shaped. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | I just got off the phone with my favorite lousy Saleman. He gave me these measurements across the upper and lower bouts:
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Any one got a quick reference? |
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