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Location: New Hampshire | I have a 1578-FMH (ultra). When I play standing, the shape of the body causes the front of the guitar to roll upward. I find this awkward. It results in an uncomfortable feeling in my left wrist while I play. When i bought it, I only played the guitar in the sitting position, so I didn't realize that this was going to be a problem. Does anybody else have the same problem? is there a fix?
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | This has been hashed over many times. Do a search ... there are dodads you can buy but they're silly.
For most of us, it's not a problem. After a week or two you adapt. Adapt ... evolve. |
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Location: New Hampshire | It would make sense that this has been discussed before. I'm having trouble wording the search to find previous discussions.
I've been playing it since December... daily. It still rolls up and still annoys me. I aleays wanted an ovation, but I didn't realize that this is an issue with this type of guitar.
Guitar playing is my hobby. I'm not a professional. I don't have to adapt |
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Location: Cicero, NY | The general consensus is that some players tend to put more weight on the upper bout of the guitar (where your right forearm rests on the guitar) than other players do. Those players might have some "rolling" issues while others do not. There are braces you can buy on eBay which "flatten" out the back (and some here will tell you they actually do work too) if it's a real issue. |
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Location: New Hampshire | Thanks weaser P, Thats helpful. I'm going downstairs now. I will check out where my arm is. Are the thinner bowls less likely to result in the roll? |
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Location: Maple Shade, NJ. | I have the dreaded "dicky do" disease (when your belly sticks out further then your dicky do!!)
So I get the roll as well, but if I lean just alittle forword when I play standing it seems to help alot.
I was close to buying one of those fleabay products but haven't yet. |
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Location: Vernon CT | Welcome to the world of the "O" :D |
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| Originally posted by jdrnd:
Thanks weaser P, Thats helpful. I'm going downstairs now. I will check out where my arm is. Are the thinner bowls less likely to result in the roll? Thinner bowls are less prone to roll, but they don't generally have the volume or tone of the deep bowls. |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | If the guitar doesn't roll while it just hangs on you from the strap as you keep your arms to your side (don't touch the guitar)... You are causing the guitar to roll up when you play.
Try adjusting the strap length... and don't rest your arm on the top of the guitar |
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Location: Lakewood, Ohio | Plugged in I cant tell the difference between the bowls, or the tops for that matter. You can always tweke an decent amp or fiddle with the eq. Theres even an argument that a laminate top is less prone to feedback, and some are stunning lookers, viz the quilt top cherry cherry burst celebrity 257s, with the comfy shallow bowl. Accoustically, theres a HUGE difference; deep bowl/solid tops are superior. |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Here's one product that some here say works:
de-flipper |
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Location: New Hampshire | Thanks for all the advice!
I've adjusted how I hold the guitar (and strap length). It still rolls but now i know why. also, I need to lose 20 pounds. I remember trying the thinner bowl at the store before I bought this guitar, and it wasn't as full a sound (which is what Todd said). The acoustic sound of the ovation is different than the sound I get from my Takamine TF341DLX, so I plan on keeping it... In the future, I need to remember to play the guitar standing with a strap at the store before I buy it. I don't perform in public (I'm not good enough), but I often play standing. I like to think I'm performing in front of my cohort when we were all 18.
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Location: Cicero, NY | A dreamer who needs to lose 20 lbs.
Man are you in the right place. Welcome home. |
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Location: South of most, North of few | Another thing you can try is to move the top strap button to the lower (treble) side of the heel. Some O's are set up this way and it seems to help. Or, you could get one of those "Willie Nelson" type straps that hook on to the lower side of the soundhole, wrap around the lower waist, and have a single loop sling.... :D |
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Location: New Hampshire | okay I'll shoot for 10 lbs in 6 months, and 2 by march 31st. |
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Location: Omaha, NE | I'm with Trader Jim on the button location. Its makes a huge difference.
Or you can go to a contour bowl, which works well.
As for losing 20 lbs...yeah right. I need to lose more like 50. |
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Location: New Hampshire | I don't feel comfortable drilling holes in guitars, and I think I'm guitar saturated for a while so I'm not going to buy another ovation with a contour bowl.
but I AM GOING TO LOSE 20 lbs by next year. |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | :D
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Location: Lakewood, Ohio | A Parker Fly is sort of shaped like a potato chip, it curves out, perfect for Santa Clause. It has an piezo so it sovers the accoustic sound. |
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Location: New Hampshire | This thread has definitely deteriorated... nice photoshop action... yep! that is my guitar superimposed on can of slim fast... you don't get to see things like that very much anymore. |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Actually that was done with Paint and Word. I was in a hurry. I wanted to get that in before this thread lost 'weight'.
BTW, that IS a gorgeous guitar. Congrats! |
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Location: New Hampshire | Thanks "2ifbyc", you have quite a collection yourself. I can see how "Paint" was used but where does "word" get used to make the image? |
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Location: Vermont USA | Beautiful guitar could we see a real picture please.
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Originally posted by jdrnd: where does "word" get used to make the image? My quickest way to resize. I was in a hurry. Photoshop would have much classier, but I've never been been accused of being such! ;)
By the time I load whatever graphics program I have, I can have the pic resized, saved, in Photobucket and out to the world. |
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re: front of guitar rolls up when playing standing