Snark clip-ons.
muzza
Posted 2013-04-12 11:02 PM (#469520)
Subject: Snark clip-ons.



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I've been doing a bit of on-line research on clip-on tuners and got down to a choice between the Gogo and Snark. I first bought the Gogo because its clip  had a bigger 'bite' for an Ovation snowplough, and i liked the big screen. Wasn't quite accurate enough for my OCD ears.

This morning my black Snark arrived from the States. 

One word... recommended!

Not easy to find a sweet spot for a clip-on tuner on an O, but I found one. 

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Bluebird
Posted 2013-04-12 11:10 PM (#469521 - in reply to #469520)
Subject: Re: Snark clip-ons.



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I love my Snark.

Wayne
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will
Posted 2013-04-13 5:52 AM (#469526 - in reply to #469520)
Subject: Re: Snark clip-ons.


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I use a Snark. Where do you clip it?
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DaveKell
Posted 2013-04-13 6:19 AM (#469527 - in reply to #469520)
Subject: RE: Snark clip-ons.


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I'm awaiting arrival of one now. Some online music place I've never ordered from emails me special offers all the time. They sent me a notice that as a valued customer I had a ten dollar credit on my next order. In next email up pops a Snark on sale for $8.00. With $3.00 shipping my card was billed a whole buck. Hope it's more user friendly than the clip on I currently use. It want to bury the needle on every note to the sharp side immediately after every attempt to center the dots on pitch. Frustrating to use! I figure for a buck I couldn't go wrong trying a Snark.
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Darkbar
Posted 2013-04-13 6:19 AM (#469528 - in reply to #469520)
Subject: Re: Snark clip-ons.



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Mine isn't that great
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muzza
Posted 2013-04-13 6:37 AM (#469529 - in reply to #469528)
Subject: Re: Snark clip-ons.



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Mine's the SN8 - the new model (In flat black!) I'm loving it, and my OCD ears are loving it. 

I've only got one 'O' now, and it's a slothead. I clip it on the side of the headstock, just in front of the 'G' tuning peg and it still allows easy access to the 'G' tuner. 

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Bluebird
Posted 2013-04-13 7:22 AM (#469530 - in reply to #469520)
Subject: Re: Snark clip-ons.



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I don't know the model of mine right off but it was the better one and is red in colour. It works great; no having to plug in and no worries when trying to tune on a noisy stage... love it!


Wayne
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stonebobbo
Posted 2013-04-13 12:37 PM (#469537 - in reply to #469520)
Subject: Re: Snark clip-ons.



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I've got a few Snarks. They're good but they eat batteries. I tend to use the PolyTune app on my magic phone most of the time these days when I'm not playing out.
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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2013-04-13 2:01 PM (#469539 - in reply to #469520)
Subject: Re: Snark clip-ons.


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I have never been a fan of tuners in general. I'd rather tune by ear. But, I have a new banjo and it doesn't have geared tuners. If you breath on it it gets out of tune. I opened up one of my red Snarks and I absolutely love it! No needle jumping around - it stops dead, and it is very accurate.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2013-04-13 2:02 PM (#469540 - in reply to #469526)
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will - 2013-04-13 3:52 AM

I use a Snark. Where do you clip it?


There is a Street Musician in PDX David Amir, who showed me this trick.
He clips his to the handle on his CubeStreet. He just started doing this.
He claims that it works well, gets a truer sound, and no worries about it falling-off like on the headstock.
(but you may notice the blue Snark on the headstock in his video)


(No that is not dust... That is sunlight on the textured tolex)
Most of my Ovation have tuners in the Preamp anyway... But I have a Snark also.


Edited by Old Man Arthur 2013-04-13 2:11 PM
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stephent28
Posted 2013-04-13 5:50 PM (#469544 - in reply to #469520)
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Snarks are excellent but they do tend to eat batteries . I just bought a 10 pack of the CR2032's through Amazon for a ridicules price. They are good till 2022 so I should be good for the next couple years.
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Slipkid
Posted 2013-04-13 7:33 PM (#469546 - in reply to #469520)
Subject: Re: Snark clip-ons.



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I've had two snarks for what... a year and a half now???
Never had to change a battery.
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stephent28
Posted 2013-04-14 1:01 PM (#469565 - in reply to #469520)
Subject: Re: Snark clip-ons.



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Well Slip,
Maybe that is why you always sound out of tune!
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Slipkid
Posted 2013-04-14 4:57 PM (#469571 - in reply to #469520)
Subject: Re: Snark clip-ons.



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Oh, you mean the thing is supposed to light up or something?
I'll have to look into that.
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MeredithI
Posted 2013-04-14 7:02 PM (#469573 - in reply to #469520)
Subject: Re: Snark clip-ons.



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I have several students with clip on tuners. So far I haven't found a single one that's as accurate as my stand alone Korg chromatic tuner with a contact condenser microphone clipped to the headstock.
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sycamore
Posted 2013-04-22 7:58 AM (#469737 - in reply to #469520)
Subject: Re: Snark clip-ons.


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Red snark. Just about clips to pacemaker headstock, works well, yes it seems to go through batteries. And I also clip it to handle of amp when playing my lap steel but never use an amp with the Pacemaker

Edited by sycamore 2013-04-22 7:59 AM
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DaveKell
Posted 2013-04-23 5:09 PM (#469771 - in reply to #469520)
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My new FREE Snark arrived today. It's a blue one. I immediately liked it better than the other clip on I have that cost more than twice as much (if I had paid for this one). Only slight problem is the shallow bite of the clip on area is kinda hard to get over the lip on an O headstock but I have a small area it fits on the side. No more battling the old tuner trying to dial it in when it always wants to bury the needle to the sharp side first. I'm a believer.
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muzza
Posted 2013-04-24 3:16 AM (#469778 - in reply to #469520)
Subject: Re: Snark clip-ons.



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Dave, on my slothead (my only O now) I clip it on the side between the 'ear' and just in front of the 'G' tuning peg. Not ideal, but it works for me.
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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2013-04-24 10:43 AM (#469797 - in reply to #469520)
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My friend Bonnie clips hers right onto the tuning peg of her violin or her cello. I would imagine it would work on a guitar too.
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twistedlim
Posted 2013-04-25 6:53 PM (#469861 - in reply to #469520)
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Never had good luck with snarks. Even my tone deaf ears can tune my guitar better. I only use intellitouchPT10.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2013-04-26 10:48 AM (#469881 - in reply to #469520)
Subject: Re: Snark clip-ons.


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I have several Snarks: a red and a blue...I like them a lot...very useful and accurate...thanks for the tip on batteries Stephen!
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PEZ
Posted 2013-04-26 4:13 PM (#469896 - in reply to #469520)
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I have 10 blue snarks
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SOBeach
Posted 2013-04-29 12:51 PM (#469978 - in reply to #469520)
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In this Top Ten Review... 

http://guitar-tuner-review.toptenreviews.com/

...the SNARK SN-1 was their #2 guitar tuner

 

Their #1 was the KORG AW2G

 

(No Gogo among this top ten)

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muzza
Posted 2013-04-29 4:21 PM (#469995 - in reply to #469520)
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Gogo didn't do it for me.

The Snark, however, does.
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Patch
Posted 2013-04-29 5:11 PM (#469997 - in reply to #469520)
Subject: RE: Snark clip-ons.



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I like'em. They're plenty affordable and accurate enough that I don't notice a problem. (Admittedly, that's a relative measure but it works for me. Which is also relative...........which is redundant, but oh well.)

One big point in their favor though: I bought five of them over a year ago, and a couple of months back, I managed to break the head off of two of them! I let Snark know about it, and they replaced both of them promptly and without a receipt. They did ask that I send them the broken ones, but I received the replacements in less than two weeks. I like customer service like that. I've since bought several more.
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d'ovation
Posted 2014-04-20 9:42 AM (#485296 - in reply to #469520)
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I will be getting my first ukulele from e-bay soon, and also have an older 12 string balladeer without built in tuner, so I think it's time to get a clip-on. Snark SN-8 looks interesting, but I'm also considering Korg Pitchclip or d'Addario NS Microtuner. Has anyone tried all three and can provide some comments on comparison?
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alpep
Posted 2014-04-20 9:53 AM (#485299 - in reply to #469520)
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I would rather play out of tune than hang a tuner on the end of my headstock
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stonebobbo
Posted 2014-04-20 11:37 AM (#485310 - in reply to #469520)
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I've got several clip on tuners, but rarely use them any more. I've got an app on my iPhone that I use mostly ... it's called PolyTune and works real well. But if I'm playing out, that's not an option. I have a pedal tuner that I use, but if it's a real short set like an open mic I'll keep a clip-on in my pocket. I have a couple of Red Snarks and they are my least favorite. The Peterson Strobe is real good but kinda pricey. I've got a couple of others that I don't know the brands, but they are small and fit nicely in my pocket ... like Al, I don't like capos or tuners hanging out on my headstocks so I keep 'em in my back pocket when I'm playing and pull them out when needed.

Tuning a 12 string is an interesting thing altogether. Unless your guitar has perfect intonation (and I've never met a 12 that does), you've got to tune it by ear relative to itself depending on where you mostly play. Sure, you can tune the open strings and get them right, but then play a C#m and 99 times out of 100 it's going to be out of tune across the strings, especially the octaves.

Tuning by ear is a lost art. Most cheap tuners are not all that accurate and players that rely on them and only tune to open strings wind up out of relative tune when they play. And worse, they can't hear it or think it must be right because the tuner said it was and they play anyway. I think all guitarists (and ukeists) need to start with a tuning fork and learn how to tune from that.

I think this is where I'm supposed to say "Get off my lawn".



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seesquare
Posted 2014-04-20 12:56 PM (#485315 - in reply to #469520)
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Very educational. I guess I will keep using my cheap-o Korg GA-20, for the next 20 years, to open-string-tuning, & never change the battery, cuz I'm such a sh***y player. Not being sarcastic, just realistic.
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stephent28
Posted 2014-04-20 2:19 PM (#485323 - in reply to #469520)
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I have tried most of them and still have some Snarks, Intellitunes, and NS Microtuners laying around.

I like the NS Microtuners best because they are fairly accurate, easy to see/read, and sit so low on the headstock that I have had people play my guitar for 1/2 hour before they even realize it is on the headstock.
The Microtuner even works on my various basses which the others won't reliably do.
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Damon67
Posted 2014-04-20 2:55 PM (#485326 - in reply to #469520)
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my iPhone has been the best stand alone tuner I've ever owned... mostly because it's always there, and it's really accurate. I use the Guitar Toolkit app.

Like Bobbo, I have a pedal in the mix when I'm plugged in.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2014-04-20 4:14 PM (#485332 - in reply to #469520)
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Damn, after reading Bobbo's ideas, I gotta get rid of my Adamas 12. It tunes perfectly with a clip on tuner and is tune no matter where I play o the neck......
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Standingovation
Posted 2014-04-20 4:38 PM (#485333 - in reply to #469520)
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I've got a Snark and a Korg DTR-2 rack mount tuner. The difference is price is about $175.

Ran the following experiment on multiple guitars using the Snark clipped to headstock and the guitar plugged into the Korg. Guess what? THEY ARE SPOT-ON IDENTICAL, up and down the fretboard. Doesn't mean either of them is RIGHT. But they are without question the SAME.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2014-04-20 5:37 PM (#485336 - in reply to #485333)
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Standingovation - 2014-04-20 2:38 PM
Doesn't mean either of them is RIGHT. But they are without question the SAME.

So long as everybody in the room uses the same tuna, everything will be gravy.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2014-04-21 9:14 PM (#485373 - in reply to #469520)
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Got a blue Snark for Christmas and really like it. It's become my favorite tuner.
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photodork
Posted 2014-04-21 9:25 PM (#485374 - in reply to #469520)
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I use the snark super tight tuner which was about 8$ from an online string store, and i like it a lot.
I would love to have one of the clip on Peterson strobo tuners with the sweetened tunings, but the thing is too dang pricey for my poor self.
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alpep
Posted 2014-04-22 7:27 AM (#485391 - in reply to #469520)
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hand a tuner a capo, an extra set of stings, a bandana, a cigarette a strap an extra pair of shoes, etc from the headstock

oh so attractive
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2014-04-22 12:41 PM (#485415 - in reply to #469520)
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I guess I am fortunate that no one cares what I look like, but I still take the Snark off as soon as I am done tuning, just in case an audience suddenly appears in the basement. They would probably notice the popcorn, potato chips and beer cans on the floor before they noticed the Snark.
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Damon67
Posted 2014-04-22 12:44 PM (#485416 - in reply to #469520)
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Al, you forgot picks
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alpep
Posted 2014-04-22 12:57 PM (#485418 - in reply to #469520)
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yes those glue on pick holders how many of them I have taken off of guitars and thrown in the trash
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