Redwood?
sligoman
Posted 2008-03-04 2:08 AM (#51585)
Subject: Redwood?


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As a native Northern Californian, I grew up vacationing in the Redwoods and loving their beauty, smell and grain. So, my question is, does that wood make for good instruments. The 2001C is a really pretty instrument, but how does it sound?
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Tony Calman
Posted 2008-03-04 3:12 AM (#51586 - in reply to #51585)
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I have had the 2001C for several years, one designed for the Japanese market.

First of all, I like the Koa, Cedar, Mahogany, Redwood, etc. Very warm, resonant.

Not sure why, but for a fair time, I didn't play it, then I would pull it out and rediscover just how nice it was.

A beautiful guitar in voice and apprearance.
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Paul Blanchard
Posted 2008-03-04 6:39 AM (#51587 - in reply to #51585)
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The Redwood tops have their own voice. I liked the ones I have had, and the best of the specimens have stunning tops looking three dimensional.
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Patch
Posted 2008-03-04 7:17 AM (#51588 - in reply to #51585)
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My 2001 is my wife's favorite. She says it sounds better than any of the others.
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alpep
Posted 2008-03-04 7:27 AM (#51589 - in reply to #51585)
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IMHO one of the best sounding guitars ovation ever made.
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bvince
Posted 2008-03-04 8:00 AM (#51590 - in reply to #51585)
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I believe they are in the same family as the cedar.
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AussieJames
Posted 2008-03-04 9:17 AM (#51591 - in reply to #51585)
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Hey Patch
She might let you buy another, don't waste the opportunity
:D
AJ
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AussieJames
Posted 2008-03-04 9:20 AM (#51592 - in reply to #51585)
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Al, I know you don't like talking prices
Ballpark for a nice one?
AJ
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-03-04 10:44 AM (#51593 - in reply to #51585)
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dvd has one. It does have a very sweet sound. It's another one of those on my list. There was one on ebay a few months ago that went for a bit over $500. I almost had it and it might have gone much higher if I would have just put in a reasonable maximum bid.
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AussieJames
Posted 2008-03-04 11:02 AM (#51594 - in reply to #51585)
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Thanks Mark
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Jeff W.
Posted 2008-03-04 11:04 AM (#51595 - in reply to #51585)
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I'd love to have a Rosewood/Walnut Lowden.
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dvd
Posted 2008-03-04 11:36 AM (#51596 - in reply to #51585)
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I love mine. It's got a warm, woody tone to it, similar to cedar, but unique. It's a soft wood like cedar.

They pop up occasionally on eBay for $750 give or take.

I spent a couple of years living and working in Arcata amongst the Redwoods.. definitely a factor in why I got mine.

It's a bit customized compared to the stock 2001 Collectors', and I definitely need to get some nice outdoor shots of it, but here it is...

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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2008-03-04 11:58 AM (#51597 - in reply to #51585)
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dvd, I've said this before:

Your '01 is one of the most stunning Ovations I have ever seen. The top they used for the refinish is absolutely gorgeous. And the inlaid epaulettes do the rest. I'd give any Koa for that one away.

Kurt
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Damon67
Posted 2008-03-04 12:26 PM (#51598 - in reply to #51585)
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wow, that's a beaut! How does it differ from other 2k1s?
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cliff
Posted 2008-03-04 12:41 PM (#51599 - in reply to #51585)
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Inlaid Eppi's
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dvd
Posted 2008-03-04 12:47 PM (#51600 - in reply to #51585)
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Thanks, Kurt!

Damon, it suffered a catastrophic top/bridge failure courtesy our friends at UPS, so off to the mothership it went for a new top and bowl. In the process, I had them add inlaid epaulets, scalloped LX bracing, OP-Pro w/ XLR, and lots of New Hartford mojo. ;)
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Waskel
Posted 2008-03-04 12:54 PM (#51601 - in reply to #51585)
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Stunning is the right word for that guitar.
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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2008-03-04 12:55 PM (#51602 - in reply to #51585)
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Originally posted by Koenig Kurt:
[QB]I'd give any Koa for that one away./QB]
Well, after rereading my post, I think this was wrong english.
I wanted to say: I'd give EVERY Koa for that one away.

Kurt
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Damon67
Posted 2008-03-04 1:09 PM (#51603 - in reply to #51585)
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so kinda like a 1778lx, but with a helluva nice top and xlr.

I like it. As a native Northern California boy myself it "speaks" to me.

Too many guitars to own, and not enough $$. DAMMIT

Be sure to bring that one up on July 4th!
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Patch
Posted 2008-03-04 1:22 PM (#51604 - in reply to #51585)
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Originally posted by AussieJames:
Hey Patch
She might let you buy another, don't waste the opportunity
:D
AJ
I keep considering selling mine every time another one becomes available because it has mustache cracks in the finish and I can't afford to fix them. :( But mine has an unusual bookmatch even for the 2k1 Collector's; the figuring forms a beautiful chevron as opposed to roughly parallel graining on most others. So I keep it, and play it, and hope to repair the cracks one day.

HOWEVER! I would love to find one with the center sound hole to go with the one I have. I've seen pictures, but never seen one for sale. (I imagine it would quickly exceed my finances anyway, but I can still dream. :) )

BTW, there's one on the 'Bay now for $899 BIN.

OH, but I love the tone it makes! :cool: :D
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cliff
Posted 2008-03-04 1:29 PM (#51605 - in reply to #51585)
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I remember a while back, that Al HAD a centerhole one available, but it may have "gone" . . .
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Patch
Posted 2008-03-04 1:54 PM (#51606 - in reply to #51585)
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Originally posted by cliff:
I remember a while back, that Al HAD a centerhole one available, but it may have "gone" . . .
Ummm...Al?...


...(He inquired quietly, sheepishly, almost timidly...as if he feared his wife might shoot him in the head if he allowed another "stray" to "wander" into the house. :) )
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Slipkid
Posted 2008-03-04 2:02 PM (#51607 - in reply to #51585)
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If you want an answer from Al on this you'd better e-mail him.
I'm surprised to hear all the kudos for this guitar. It seems to go against the "grain" of conventional wisdom about what makes a good tonewood. I hope to test drive one someday.
I can't beleive I just used the word "tonewood". Makes me sound & feel like a pretentious Taylor fan.
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cliff
Posted 2008-03-04 2:22 PM (#51608 - in reply to #51585)
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StoveKnitterWannabee . . .


The very first time I met Al (and Miles & Kim, for that matter) was at a NJ GuitarShow. Al had two of the Redwoods (center & multi) and I was absolutely blown away by the tone of these!

They kinda sound the way they "look" like they would sound (if that makes sense). It "sounds" like "redwood" . . .
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Slipkid
Posted 2008-03-04 2:30 PM (#51609 - in reply to #51585)
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Easy there Cliff...
sounds like you're edging in on StoveKnitter territory yourself.
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cliff
Posted 2008-03-04 2:36 PM (#51610 - in reply to #51585)
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More Synesthesiac, than anything . . .
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Jeff W.
Posted 2008-03-04 3:54 PM (#51611 - in reply to #51585)
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. . . smell that crazy purple, man. . .
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cliff
Posted 2008-03-04 3:56 PM (#51612 - in reply to #51585)
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. . . I hear that . . .
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CrimsonLake
Posted 2008-03-04 4:22 PM (#51613 - in reply to #51585)
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Al has a gorgeous Hamer Redwood that Jason and I got to play with a little bit over his house.
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Tony Calman
Posted 2008-03-04 5:52 PM (#51614 - in reply to #51585)
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When I got mine from Al (trade for a Viper bass), I was advised that the redwood is a little more fragile, even to detune after playing.

Maybe for the cold climates if you were transporting to performances but in San Diego I leave it out of the case at 440 and have had no problems.

Very nice projection even though it is a mid-bowl.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-03-04 6:41 PM (#51615 - in reply to #51585)
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I didn't mean to suggest that $500 was a value of one of these. That was one of those auctions with crappy pictures and an ad that didn't do justice to the guitar and it ended on something like a Saturday afternoon when no one with a life would be looking at guitars on ebay. If I remember correctly, it had a few finish flaws, too. My 99 Collector's also has the shizzle appearance-wise, but doesn't have the tone of the Redwood. They really did some pretty Collectors in that era, but the Redwood is the only one I can think of that sounded as good as it looked.
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Patch
Posted 2008-03-04 7:43 PM (#51616 - in reply to #51585)
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Originally posted by Patch:
Originally posted by cliff:
I remember a while back, that Al HAD a centerhole one available, but it may have "gone" . . .
Ummm...Al?
Alas...It has been sold. :(

Phew, that was close. :rolleyes:
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sligoman
Posted 2008-03-04 8:17 PM (#51617 - in reply to #51585)
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I had been watching the one on ebay but it is no way near as nice as the one pictured here.
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alpep
Posted 2008-03-04 8:25 PM (#51618 - in reply to #51585)
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i have plenty of koa guitars in stock
they sound great look great and will probably never be made again in that configuration.
also new with warranty

(shameless plug)
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Patch
Posted 2008-03-04 9:46 PM (#51619 - in reply to #51585)
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Originally posted by sligoman:
I had been watching the one on ebay but it is no way near as nice as the one pictured here.
I like mine better too. :D :cool:



Ignore the fingerprints; I live with a three year old. :rolleyes:
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Patch
Posted 2008-03-04 9:47 PM (#51620 - in reply to #51585)
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Originally posted by alpep:
i have plenty of koa guitars in stock
they sound great look great and will probably never be made again in that configuration.
also new with warranty

(shameless plug)
Believe me Al, if I could afford an OFC Koa, I would drive down tomorrow to pick it up. But they remain on my waayyy down the road wish list. :) :cool:
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dvd
Posted 2008-03-04 9:53 PM (#51621 - in reply to #51585)
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Patch, did you get that on the Bay? I think I remember seeing that chevron pattern on a redwood somewhere along the way. Very cool.
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Patch
Posted 2008-03-04 9:54 PM (#51622 - in reply to #51585)
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I did indeed, a little over two years ago. You've a fine memory DVD.
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