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Joined: October 2007 Posts: 2711
Location: Vernon CT | Ok,I Love the Doobie Brothers and thought about this while "in" another post. Who where beter.
Dobbies with Tom Johnston or Michael McDonald?
My vote is for the early "Doobie's" w/Johnston
No contest. |
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Joined: November 2006 Posts: 3969
| Originally posted by BT717:
"Doobie's" w/Johnston
No contest. No contest, indeed! McDonald ruined a very tight and innovative guitar band, IMNSHO. |
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Location: big island | both versions were very good, just different. |
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Joined: June 2002 Posts: 863
Location: Central Florida | I like the Doobies stuff w/ McDonald, but I prefer the earlier, "pre-Micheal" material. I tend to think of them as two completely different bands. |
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Location: Lake Hiawatha, New Jersey | "She mook a wong wong way to amotta gao"
- Michael McDonald |
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Location: NJ | :D |
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Location: GA USA | I never liked the Doobs until MM. "Livin' On The Faultline" was my fave. |
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Joined: November 2006 Posts: 3969
| I recall seeing them on TV in the late 70's after McDonald had cemented his role. On one song (It was either 'Long Train Running' or 'China Grove') Skunk Baxter was rockin' away with a big grin barely visible under his walrus 'stache. The next song was McDonald's 'Minute by Minute' and when they cut to the guitarists, the bored scowl on Baxter's face as he barely had to strum the simple chords was sad and priceless at the same time. |
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Location: ms | I hated the Doobies when McDonald first joined and didn`t like most of their stuff with him but later on I became a fan of his solo stuff. |
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Joined: October 2007 Posts: 2711
Location: Vernon CT | I agree with Jeff that they were 2 completely different bands. The first was good :) and the second was not good :( (other then a song or two) |
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Location: south east Michigan | Mike (aka:Mumbles) Mcdonald.
Never liked his style. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I never liked McDonald's voice or most of the songs he did, either with the Doobies or solo. I liked the early Doobies. |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | McDonald wasn't a Brother. He completely changed the band. They were still good - but not my cup 'o tea.
I've got all the Doobies cds and I never play the later stuff. |
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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 2246
Location: Yucaipa, California | "McDonald wasn't a Brother."
...spot on. |
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Location: big island | he didn't smoke doobies? |
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Location: big island | i think it's all relative. if mm was part of the doobies from the beginning and then he left for a solo gig, we would all think the doobies "don't sound like they should". |
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Joined: October 2007 Posts: 2711
Location: Vernon CT | If M.M. was an orginal member of the D.B's, I would not consider them one of the top 5 band's of the "70's" as I do the original T.J version
IMHO. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | They were two bands and I liked them, both equally. I find I listen now to minute by minute more than any of their other stuff. The reformed post McDonald Doobies don't quite measure up to the original. Maybe it's just me, it has been a span of 25 or so years. |
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Joined: November 2006 Posts: 2241
Location: Simpsonville, SC | Liked 'em both. I agree with Beal, on tha reformed band. Saw a TV show with them recently and something just wasn't right. |
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Joined: October 2005 Posts: 5331
Location: Cicero, NY | I agree, Beal. I loved their early stuff, then (to me) it got old and a little tired, McDonald stepped in and moved the band in a totally new direction. More pop than rock? Sure, maybe even more Vegas than San Fran but I enjoyed it. But you really can't compare the two - which version do you LIKE better is a fair question but which one WAS better really isn't.
Consider that same question using Chicago... |
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Location: NJ | Larry Carlton did a really nice acoustic instrumental of "Minute by Minute" way back when . . . |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Yes he did but I still like the doobs. |
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Location: Cicero, NY | Didn't McDonald play on that version, Cliff? I've got it (I'm a huge Carlton fan) but, frankly I'm too lazy to go verify that. Both of them played with the Steely Dan guys (big fan of them as well) - would have to believe they crossed paths from time to time. |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 10583
Location: NJ | I liked both versions of the band.
the michael mcdonald era was always like steely dan lite to me.
saw steely dan with michael mcdonald as a guest a couple of years ago and it was great.
he has a very distinctive voice. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | I would consider McDonald a Doobie moreso than Baxter, but maybe that's just the jet fumes.
The first Doobie album really had an impact on me, such a fresh approach to "counrty-rock" as they called it at the time. "Nobody" still one of my alltime favorites. I think this is what they are trying to get back to now and won't. Even the second album, was it Toulouse St? which really launched them, was a big step toward the McD type sound.
Some of my all time favorites I guess. Maybe it was the Doobies at the time....... |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12759
Location: Boise, Idaho | That was one of the bands I really liked from the start and would have loved to see live, but they got into pretty big concert productions pretty fast and I couldn't afford to travel to a show like that. I preferred listening without smoke from a few thousand pounds of dry ice. |
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 77
Location: Texas | Originally posted by Weaser P:
Didn't McDonald play on that version, Cliff? I've got it (I'm a huge Carlton fan) but, frankly I'm too lazy to go verify that. Both of them played with the Steely Dan guys (big fan of them as well) - would have to believe they crossed paths from time to time. Watched VH-1 "Classic Albums: Steely Dan, Aja" not long ago. Larry Carlton had acted as a go-between (and coordinator) for the studio musicians, and Becker/Fagan. MM sang backround harmonies with himself, multitrack, on "Peg".
I believe MM at least sang backrounds on the Larry Carlton version of Minute By Minute.
On topic, I love the Doobies! A guitar band whose music I could actually play! For example, Listen To The Music, Long Train Running, China Grove, Eyes of Silver. Anytime I play even a little bit of Listen To The Music, I get a positive reaction.
MM did take it in a different direction, but maybe that's what was needed at the time. The earlier Doobs did tend to play the same song over and over a bit ... :)
-Gary K |
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Joined: October 2006 Posts: 5575
Location: big island | here's a great clip of the modern doobies in japan. excellent rendition of "long train running". love the sax, man.
doobs in japan |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | When we're down in Amelia, remind me t'tell you my DooBros. story . . . |
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Joined: October 2007 Posts: 2711
Location: Vernon CT | Come on Cliff, some of us aren't going. Tell us,
pleeeeeaaaaaasssssseeee!!! :D |
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Location: NJ | Can't.
It goes against the Manifesto . . . |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Originally posted by lanaki:
...excellent rendition of "long train running". love the sax, man... IMHO, Long Train Runnin without the harmonica solo?
May as well have Michael McDonald singing it. |
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