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Location: Chicago | The Wilson sisters were just getting back from performing "Stairway to Heaven" for Led Zeppelin at the Kennedy Center Honors when they heard their band has been elected to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. "No pressure or anything," Ann Wilson says, laughing.
[RS Press copy] Bravo! |
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Location: Flahdaw | Believe it or not, 30 years ago Heart was one of the best concerts I've ever seen. They brought it! |
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Location: Chicago | I've done a quick YouTube survey (current live shows)... don't see Ovations onstage anymore. Oh well. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | I had already voted them into mine years ago! |
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Location: Miami | They may not use Ovations any more, but they sure put Ovation on the map in my book. I can't think of Heart without thinking of Nancy playing her O. |
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Location: Northwest Arkansas | I'll never forget being in my dorm room at college and listening to Barracuda and someone down the hall yelling, "Turn that up!" Everyone loved Heart. I still do. I've got an old bootleg of them on a Seattle TV program maybe 6 months before they made it big. They were a little loose. You could still see the possibilities.
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I also remember sitting in a dorm room in 76 or 77, fingerpicking along to Dreamboat Annie, before I got my first Ovation. I can't say they were the reason I bought an Ovation, but they probably had something to do with it. I'm not sure I knew what an Adamas was at that point, though. Ann had a great voice. I typically bought albums that I could sing along with, but Heart was an exception. They were albums just for listening. |
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Location: Jet City | I gotta throw a curve on this thread, sorry.
Being from Seattle, I have a special spot in my heart for Heart, but the real story is Rush being finally considered. I mean really... the only bands to have more consecutive gold records are the Stones and the Beatles... 24 Gold, 14 Platinum (3 multi).
It's about F'n time. Nearly 45 years of rockin' the stage and putting out hit after hit should make up for Geddy's voice.
Not to mention since the 70s Alex has been AND STILL IS PLAYING OVATIONS ON STAGE
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Location: Denver, CO | I'm with you, Damon! Reading this thread, that's what I was thinking. And, since I've just had a good read of the History book, I wondered that Alex wasn't even mentioned! |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Maybe they are finally getting their heads out of their collective butts at HOF, but I doubt it. Blue Oyster Cult is listed as a main influence of just about every hard rock band that has already been inducted and of course many that haven't. Besides the music, the Lasers, the diaeresis or umlaut used in names, and riding a Harley onto the stage all inspired the Kiss, ELO, TSO stage acts of the future. Their music has been in some of the most popular cult movies and while the recent Roadie wasn't about them, they sure got mentioned a lot and actually DID tour Brazil for the first time last year after the movie came out. And oh yeah.... lets not forget the most popular Saturday Night Live skit ever... "More Cowbell !!!" . Finally, for what it's worth.... Don't Fear the Reaper was written and initially recorded using an Ovation.
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Location: Chicago | No insult to Rush or BOC intended, guys. I simply have strong nostalgia for the days when good music seemed delivered on Ovation/Adamas. From the high-tech guys (McLaughlin, Glen C) to rockers everywhere. Heart was (is) a great blend of guitar, voice and female mojo! Regarding the sub-thread that developed ("ROR HOF sucks" : I agree. It's the same with awards and lists everywhere, all the time is it not? The 100 "best" guitarists or albums will invariably suck for good reasons... |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | exactly why I called them a sham..........
Come on.......DONNA SUMMER......Rock & Roll........don't even roll off the tongue properly.
They should have a R&R HOF and a Music HOF if they want to add the Summers of the world......
and Damon.........RUSH is another reason the HOF is a joke. |
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Location: Flahdaw | Yeah, but at least they had the good sense to induct ABBA |
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Location: Jet City | stephent28 - 2012-12-12 12:26 PM and Damon.........RUSH is another reason the HOF is a joke. May as well take this WAY OT, but I'm still waiting for the NFL to recognize Jim Plunkett, the only 2 time winning QB NOT in the HOF. Not to mention, Heisman Trophy winner (beating Manning and Thiesman, and the first Latino to get it), Maxwell award, and several passing, touchdown, and yardage records for the PAC 8 while in college. Superbowl MVP (again, only Latino to do so), and only 1 of 4 people ever to win the Heisman and SB MVP. All HOF's are a joke. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I don't know anything about Rush, Damon, but the NFL should add Jim Plunkett and Jerry Kramer. |
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Location: Chicago | Yeah! And where is Ed Norton's (Gary Oldman's, Harrison Ford's) Oscar already?? |
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Location: Tennessee | Mark in Boise - 2012-12-12 3:35 PM I don't know anything about Rush, Damon, but the NFL should add Jim Plunkett and Jerry Kramer. Ray Guy |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | I wish I knew the criteria. Calling it Rock and Roll hall of fame and then adding Donna Summer is odd, but there MUST be SOME criteria they are using regardless of the title. Every time I think I have a group of theories, I look at the list and many don't seem to fit it. Sometimes people get inducted for reasons that have little to do with music they themselves created but rather something they did, but again, there doesn't seem to be a hard rule. As far as lists, I generally agree, but the Hall of Fame isn't really a list. The bands are nominated and voted on after meeting certain criteria. Some of the criteria as posted on their website... Artists become eligible for induction 25 years after the release of their first record. Criteria include the influence and significance of the artists’ contributions to the development and perpetuation of rock and roll. The Foundation’s nominating committee selects nominees each year in the Performer category. Ballots are then sent to an international voting body of more than 600 artists, historians and members of the music industry. Those performers who receive the highest number of votes - and more than 50 percent of the vote - are inducted. The Foundation generally inducts five to seven performers each year. So, 301 (out of 600) "historians and members of the music industry" Voted for Donna Summer for some reason. "First-time nominees Rush, Deep Purple, N.W.A., Public Enemy, Albert King, The Marvelettes and Procol Harum join previously nominated acts Chic, Heart, Donna Summer, Kraftwerk, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, Randy Newman, Paul Butterfield Blues Band and The Meters." It's odd to say the least. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Once they allowed Rap "artists" to be nominated... That proved that it isn't about Music.
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Location: Northwest Arkansas | If any one of 100 singers had died last year with as many hits as Donna Summer had. They would have gotten the award posthumously. Dying is a guarantee to get in one HOF or the other. Disco is short for discomfort, to me. The Rock and Roll HOF is legendary for giving awards to folks who did not deserve it. I don't like Rush, but they have an enormous following. They may not have the "Freak" credentals that some of the others have. This Gangnam idiot Psy will probably get it next year. No rap, hip-hop "artist" should ever get it. It's synchronized poetry, with someone else's stolen music.
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Joan Jett and the Blachearts?
In the same sentence with Heart , Rush and Deep Purple?
I rest my case...what a sham.
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | darkbarguitar - 2012-12-13 9:11 AM
I'll pulled up the list of inductees since the beginning of the HOF....I can't find more than a few that I disagree with. Are there lots that could or should be added? Yeah.
Yep, I'm with you. I don't begrudge any inductee as it's NOT about music, it's about influence on music in some way. BIG difference. But, with that said, I also agree the list of who isn't nominated has many more rather obvious influences on it than those inducted.
A lot of people still say "Rush ??"... Well, when you've had more consecutive gold or platinum studio albums then every rock band except the Beatles and Stones, it's a safe bet you've influenced a few people. I guess they same can be said for Donna Summer as the Disco Queen although I wish she didn't... but there's no denying she influenced a few people.
It just seems there are more people on the not-nominated list, that influenced more people, for a longer time. |
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Location: Flahdaw | That said, I don't see the wide reaching influence that ABBA had....
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | darkbarguitar - 2012-12-13 11:49 AM That said, I don't see the wide reaching influence that ABBA had.... Your choice of clothing.......and shirts in particular seem to be heavily influenced by Abba (and Moody). |
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Location: Denver, CO | boltonb - 2012-12-13 12:10 PM
Within the past month or so, we've begun to add Heart tunes to our band's set list. It is just plain great music!
Wow! You told me you had a couple of great female singers, but I didn't think you meant THAT good! I don't think I've ever heard a band that covered Heart well. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | darkbarguitar - 2012-12-13 10:49 AM
That said, I don't see the wide reaching influence that ABBA had....
We agree on that... but... no arguing with a worldwide cult-like following and occasional bouts at #1 album sales 10, 20 years after their last album was recorded. Not to mention Mama Mia musical and movie.
So, as we said... no begrudging them... just wonder why others who have done more aren't even in the running. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | dwg preacher - 2012-12-13 12:48 PM boltonb - 2012-12-13 12:10 PM Within the past month or so, we've begun to add Heart tunes to our band's set list. It is just plain great music! Wow! You told me you had a couple of great female singers, but I didn't think you meant THAT good! I don't think I've ever heard a band that covered Heart well. There is a local Littleton cover band.......Dreamboat Annie.........and the singer has the chops to pull it off (she is still no Ann Wilson but who is). She is a very credible vocalist....rest of the band is ok but she is the star!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rc9ekjYMM8
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | dwg preacher - 2012-12-13 1:48 PM boltonb - 2012-12-13 12:10 PM Within the past month or so, we've begun to add Heart tunes to our band's set list. It is just plain great music! Wow! You told me you had a couple of great female singers, but I didn't think you meant THAT good! I don't think I've ever heard a band that covered Heart well. We're not that good, and never will be. We just like playing their music. The song we've added is Alone. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Good song, Prof. I like the very simple piano opening and especially the guitar solo in the middle. Do you do the guitar solo? |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Mark in Boise - 2012-12-13 5:39 PM Good song, Prof. I like the very simple piano opening and especially the guitar solo in the middle. Do you do the guitar solo? Yep, and our keyboardist has the piano part nailed, too. The music is relatively easy. Its those gorgoeous HOF voices that we have to work on. We don't try to imitate, but rather, just give it our own interpretation as best we can. |
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Location: Denver, CO | I like it better, anyway, when a band just nails the "feel" of a cover, rather than try to reproduce the original. Looking forward to hearing you sometime. |
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Heart to be inducted: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame!