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Location: Germany | I replaced my Adamas II's old-fashioned two-knobber-electronics (right side) with the new reengineered electronics (left side). IMHO they have a comparable sound but the newer one is nearly noiseless and noticeable lighter. It reduced the overall weight of the guitar by 120 gr (0,25 lb), that's about 5 %. Not terribly much but these old Kaman-bar-two-knobbers are heavyweights and so any weight reduction is welcome.
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | I thought the new electronic had a bit more fullness and body to them. Made the old electronics sound a bit thin. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I took the electroncis out of my OFC guitar and put them in #42. Sounds nice. Dave |
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Location: Colorado | I had the mothership change out the two knobbers for an OP 24 years ago on #43 - more flexible, and much much quieter - as is needed in pit work |
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by Tupperware:
I took the electroncis out of my OFC guitar and put them in #42. Sounds nice. Dave I wonder how many people are actually going to believe you...... |
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Location: SoCal | It's not surprising that the newer 2 knobber system is better than the old. Keep in mind that the old 2 knobber electronics are a 30 year old design..... |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Do the old two knobbers use the same electronics package as the stacked controls from the same period? They all sound great to me. |
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Location: Chicago | My 1581 RI sounds great unplugged, but I must say that the plugged-in sound is a bit thin for the top strings.... |
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Location: Chicago | PS When I installed a classy Fishman system in my 1117 (Legend) it was sweeeet. Maybe good idea for the Adamas two-knobber! |
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Location: SoCal | Buy the reissue 2 knobber electronics from the factory and install them yourself. If I can do it, anybody can. And they sound great. Newer technology by about 30 years...... |
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Location: Simpsonville, SC | ....a little OT, but, when Beal came to the g8r jam, he brought a number of Adamii (protos and priceless originals) with the electronics removed....much lighter and the sound was amazing....
Is there any gain by removing the electronics..acoustic wise? |
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Location: Munich, Germany | Originally posted by dobro:
My 1581 RI sounds great unplugged, but.... Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
Buy the reissue 2 knobber electronics from the factory... Now that's what I would call a worthy upgrade!
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Location: big island | the guitar in question is an RI model so it already has the upgraded two-knobber electronics. |
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Location: Munich, Germany | Randy, you'd really force me to use those "emoticons"?
Okay, for you I'll do it: ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by lanaki:
the guitar in question is an RI model so it already has the upgraded two-knobber electronics. Good point Randy. I didn't even think about that. I kept thinking Dob's 1581 was an older one......
Dob, looks like you're S.O.L.! |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Thin sounding on top? Try heavier strings. I love the feel of really lightweight strings, but I, too, have noticed some tone loss up high. I'm starting to set up different guitars with different string weights so I have options. Options are good. |
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Location: NJ | I just read in an article that Pat Donahue uses EJ16's (Lights), but uses a beefier Hi-E . . . y'could try that . . . |
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Location: SoCal | Elixir used to make a mixed set, medium lights, that went from a .56 down to .12..... |
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Location: big island | elixir still makes the medium light sets. i use 'em. |
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Two-knobber-electronics: new versus old