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Poking my fingertip to the bone when changing strings.
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Location: Thredbo, NSW, Australia | mymartind35 - 2012-11-17 2:49 PM
It drives me nuts to see someone beat a guitar.
John Hiatt said it well in his song 'Perfectly Good Guitar'
Oh it breaks my heart to see those stars
Smashing a perfectly good guitar
I don't know who they think they are
Smashing a perfectly good guitar
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | What cheeses me off is that I've been playing guitar for 40 years and still suck! |
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I'm going to see The Who a week from tonight.
Now-a-days it is a very rare event but I can only hope that a Strat does not make it out alive. 
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Location: Newington, CT | Uhhhhh...what the...? How the heck did *I* get in there?!?
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Location: Fort Worth, TX | My biggest peeve is the guy at every jam who thinks it's a competition. He jumps in on every song, pounds away and always looks up to acknowledge the astonishment at his guitar prowess. The one guy I'm thinking of now is also a sports jock, so I'm sure a lot of that attitude comes into play when he has a guitar in his hands. He always has to one up other players by repeating what they just played at twice the volume and speed... and the thing is, his playing sucks. He's the only one who doesn't know it. |
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Location: Colorado | muzza - 2012-11-17 5:18 AM What cheeses me off is that I've been playing guitar for 40 years and still suck! Same here...but for me it's 35 years of strumming the same three chords and I still can't get them right. |
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Location: Denver, CO | I feel you. All of you. But my biggest peeve is that all I really want to do is play, and that's the thing that always gets set aside while I am forced to attend to that crap people refer to as "responsibilities."
2nd is: those guys who have like, 93 guitars. Especially when at least a dozen of them are worth the value of my entire collection. Not naming any names... |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Most of what I see in the "Musicians" section of Craigslist. I initially checked it out in an attempt to find someone to jam with, but realized that few real musicians ever post there. I thought I hated rap, but I learned there are people who think that screamo and growling and other noises are somehow "musical". I can't believe there are people who actually pay to listen to that crap, when there are decent musicians (not me) looking for a place to play.
A second pet peeve is the volume at concerts. Sorry to all you old rockers out there, but there is absolutely no reason to crank the volume so high that it becomes inaudible except with earplugs. That has pissed me off since I first saw the Beatles having to do it to be heard above all the screaming girls. Screaming girls is not a good reason. Go to a concert to listen to the music. If you just want to watch an act, turn on a video and turn the sound off. None of those girls scream when their listening to the cds at home. No one goes to a play or dance performance and screams the whole time. This idea of screaming the whole concert is just stupid.
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Location: New Hartford CT | Soundmen/musicians who noodle with the PA endlessly. Long soundchecks that drive away customers at the bar who are just trying to have a drink and relax are beyond annoying, they're unprofessional.
Just set everything to the middle and go from there! |
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Location: Northwest Arkansas | People who pose with their guitar.
People who suck but think they're great.
People who are great and let everybody else know it. |
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People who are great and let everybody else know it.
Oh. Sorry. |
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Location: Flahdaw | I find the "MSRP" on any instrument to be very annoying.
The guy that plugs in at GC, then plays the intro to Stairway to Heaven poorly and loudly...over and over.
Anyone who has the audacity to be in the acoustic room at GC when I choose to go in there annoys me. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | While much of what has been mentioned can be annoying at times, I find my biggest pet peeve is with venues that treat artists like crap or expect artists to play for free or haven't realized it's 2012 not 1975 when it comes to what they pay. |
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Location: Fort Worth, TX | darkbarguitar - 2012-11-17 1:50 PM
The guy that plugs in at GC, then plays the intro to Stairway to Heaven poorly and loudly...over and over.
Anyone who has the audacity to be in the acoustic room at GC when I choose to go in there annoys me.
Or the guy (except it was a girl last time) who does a lame version of Blackbird with every guitar they pick up. I too hate it when there is more than one other person in there besides me. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR |  mileskb - 2012-11-17 12:15 PM
While much of what has been mentioned can be annoying at times, I find my biggest pet peeve is with venues that treat artists like crap or expect artists to play for free or haven't realized it's 2012 not 1975 when it comes to what they pay.
I was just talking to a street musician who sez that he will make more money busking than at a bar gig.
"Once you divide-up the money and pay the expenses, each person makes $22 for eight hours labor...
I can do that out here on the street corner and not have to deal with dozens of drunk people"
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | darkbarguitar - 2012-11-17 1:47 PM
Who plays a bar gig for 8 hours??? Go get rental van.
Go get your stuff, put in van.
Go to drummer's house, wake him up, put in van.
Get everyone to bar.
Set-up.
Sound check.
Go eat cuz the gig doesn't start til nine.
Play two 90 minute sets.
Pack stuff back in van.
Drop everybody's stuff off.
Put gas in van, return van.
Ride bicycle home = eight hours
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Location: UK | arthurseery - 2012-11-16 9:56 PM
Go get rental van.
Go get your stuff, put in van.
Go to drummer's house, wake him up, put in van.
Get everyone to bar.
Set-up.
Sound check.
Go eat cuz the gig doesn't start til nine.
Play two 90 minute sets.
Pack stuff back in van.
Drop everybody's stuff off.
Finds out the drummer's not there.
Go back to the bar.
Find it lying on the floor.
Drive back.
Chuck it outside its front door.
Put gas in van, return van.
Ride bicycle home = eight hours
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Location: Northwest Arkansas | mileskb - 2012-11-17 2:15 PM
While much of what has been mentioned can be annoying at times, I find my biggest pet peeve is with venues that treat artists like crap or expect artists to play for free or haven't realized it's 2012 not 1975 when it comes to what they pay.
They're paying exactly the same as they did in the 80's around here. Who do you know who gets paid the same at his job as in the 80's? |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | My pet peeve is playing with people that will only play a cover "exactly" like the original version.
"It has to be in the key of G and it has to be a straight 4/4 at 95 bpm"
NO, ASH WIPE - I'm playing in A, 80 bpm light swing. Play along or fruck off !!! |
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Constant buzzing in your signal chain.
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Location: Chicago | "Professionals" whose main instrument is their phallic EGO (kissing *** UP the ladder, crushing fingers BELOW).
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Location: Upper Left USA | Standingovation - 2012-11-18 10:09 AM My pet peeve is playing with people that will only play a cover "exactly" like the original version. "It has to be in the key of G and it has to be a straight 4/4 at 95 bpm" NO, ASH WIPE - I'm playing in A, 80 bpm light swing. Play along or fruck off !!! The "BEST" times are when you are with others and they play things a little diferent and you learn and mix and play along as well! Now back to your scheduled ranting... |
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Location: Northwest Arkansas | We played "Mercury Blues" the way David Lindley did it and some jerk walked up and said, "That ain't the way Alan Jackson done it!" Ya think! "Summertime Blues" with Eddie Cochran "feel" to it. That song came out in '58.
More pet peeves:
I miss real music on the radio. Not this rubber stamp junk.
People who let their necks bow badly and let the strings rust. Then ask you to come play that guitar.
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We played "Mercury Blues" the way David Lindley did it and some jerk walked up and said, "That ain't the way Alan Jackson done it!" Ya think!
Not familiar with the tune, I know of Lindley, a bit more about Jackson . . . . but I am very familiar with idiots coming up to you with complaints like that. Hey, pal , get your own gig and you can play it like anyone you want. I can't stand those guys. |
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Location: Seacoast NH | Some great ones here! But I have to go with what dwg preacher said - the guy with tons of amazing guitars that can barely play. I went to a holiday party/jam last year, and this guy had brought a beautiful early 60's Les Paul and a really nice PRS, as well as a Marshall stack (which he of course needed seeing as how we were playing in my friends tiny 300 sq. ft. basement). This guy could barely play a 12-bar shuffle, and Barre chords were way out of his realm of expertise. I was told he has like $50k of other equipment at home too. Just absurd. Meanwhile I was able to hold my own with my cheap little Godin and little lunchbox amp -- total investment, less than $400 used. |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Hmmmmm, some of this sounds more like sour grapes and jealousy than actual peeves..... Just sayin'
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Location: Phoenix AZ | mbedard1 - 2012-11-20 11:45 AM
Some great ones here! But I have to go with what dwg preacher said - the guy with tons of amazing guitars that can barely play. I went to a holiday party/jam last year, and this guy had brought a beautiful early 60's Les Paul and a really nice PRS, as well as a Marshall stack (which he of course needed seeing as how we were playing in my friends tiny 300 sq. ft. basement). This guy could barely play a 12-bar shuffle, and Barre chords were way out of his realm of expertise. I was told he has like $50k of other equipment at home too. Just absurd. Meanwhile I was able to hold my own with my cheap little Godin and little lunchbox amp -- total investment, less than $400 used.
So only those who can play well should be deserving of spending their money on expensive instruments ???
The person who works has butt off 9-5 and saves up a tidy some of money, or has the intelligence to make wise investments and become (oh my gosh) "Well Off" shouldn't be able to spend his riches on any damn thing he wants to including fancy guitars that will never get played ??? Come on now ...
Where I draw the line is when somebody goes deep into debt and buys "must have" fancy guitars and equipment while he's failing to provide for his family, failing to invest in his childrens education, failing to support his aging parents and failing to seed his own retirement. That's a case of frocked up priorities. But someones musical abilities shouldn't be part of the equation.
Btw, I went to the sporting good store to buy a nice pair of running shoes. They told me I wasn't fast enough to deserve them.
Sorry man, I'm not meaning to dump on you. But those who know me will recognize that this strikes a nerve - I can't play worth a shirt but I enjoy surrounding myself with nice gear. Some blow their money on golf, booze, woman, fast cars, etc. I blow mine on gear that I'm not capabile of playing. Doesn't make me a bad guy.
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Location: Denver, CO | Standingovation - 2012-11-21 7:36 AM
So only those who can play well should be deserving of spending their money on expensive instruments ???
The person who works has butt off 9-5 and saves up a tidy some of money, or has the intelligence to make wise investments and become (oh my gosh) "Well Off" shouldn't be able to spend his riches on any damn thing he wants to including fancy guitars that will never get played ??? Come on now ...
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Not sure how sarcastic you are being here, but my initial post was a little tongue-in-cheek, mostly intended to state how jealous I am of those with greater means than I... however, I can completely understand; it's the guy who parades his cool stuff around for everyone to drool over, who thinks that having the cool stuff by itself makes him a superior person/player/whatever, then proceeds to show everyone what a hack he is. I'm a hack too, but I also never walk into a room and whip out my axe and try to blow everyone off the stage. And there are a lot of incendiary players out there whose only instrument is a 1986 Yamaha that has seen 3 wars... |
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | I don't care how well or how poorly a person with great guitars plays. But when they BEAT on them, refuse to humidify them, leave them in the trunk on hot summer days or cold winter ones, THEN I get mad. I have cut my own throat here at the shop a few times by refusing to sell a great guitar to someone who thinks picks are made for the express purpose of digging a hole in the wood. I have actually, a couple of times, taken a guitar out of someone's hand, hung it on the wall, and told them to leave. And one time, I took a very expensive guitar out of the hands of a guy who "always wanted one of these (brands)", but couldn't even tell he was playing the D on the third and fourth frets instead of where it belongs, and once again, he was VERY heavy handed with the pick. That guitar deserved to be in the hands of someone who would cherish it, not someone who couldn't play and just wanted it for a status symbol. So I encouraged the guy to take some time and think about it. If he had come back the next day I would have told him someone put it on lay-away.
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I hate tripping over them.
I hate them getting all tangled in everything.
I hate needing a certain one and not being able to find it.
I hate having 4 devices, and 38 cords going to and from them.
I hate when they hum, buzz, or make other unwanted noises.
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Location: Denver, CO | darkbarguitar - 2012-11-21 2:21 PM
I hate when they hum, buzz, or make other unwanted noises.
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Location: Brisbane Australia | Well said Dave.......I'm with you!!
G'day Cliff
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Location: Nashville TN. | arthurseery - 2012-11-17 3:23 PM
mileskb - 2012-11-17 12:15 PM
While much of what has been mentioned can be annoying at times, I find my biggest pet peeve is with venues that treat artists like crap or expect artists to play for free or haven't realized it's 2012 not 1975 when it comes to what they pay.
I was just talking to a street musician who sez that he will make more money busking than at a bar gig.
"Once you divide-up the money and pay the expenses, each person makes $22 for eight hours labor...
I can do that out here on the street corner and not have to deal with dozens of drunk people"
Here in Hartford Busking doesn't work so well......4 bucks and hour and street people ask you for money. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I just thought of another one--the kid in the car next to you with his windows rolled down, forcing everyone around to listen. Usually, it's in a POS car that isn't worth what was spent on the stereo. I realize that most humans have an urge to be noticed, by why be noticed for being stupid?
I don't begrudge Dave or AJ their collections and agree totally with what Dave said, except he's really not that bad. Damon made an astute observation when I wished I could play as well as he did. If I spent as many hours practicing as I did going to school and working, I might be a lot better guitar player. The expert guitar players have their 10,000 plus hours in developing their expertise. Until the rest of us get there, the best we can hope for may be to make enough to put the kids through school, pay off the mortgage and have something left to buy nice guitars. |
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Location: NH | Mark in Boise - 2012-11-26 6:44 PM
Damon made an astute observation when I wished I could play as well as he did. If I spent as many hours practicing as I did going to school and working, I might be a lot better guitar player. The expert guitar players have their 10,000 plus hours in developing their expertise. Until the rest of us get there, the best we can hope for may be to make enough to put the kids through school, pay off the mortgage and have something left to buy nice guitars.
Thanks for sharing this insight Mark. It makes me feel a little better about my level of experience. |
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"I'm miking your amp. Why do you insist on have having your Post Gain up all the way?!?"
"That's my tone, bro dog man dude. I know what I'm doing."
"Actually, your post gain is mostly just volume. You'll get a nicer sound through the PA if the mic doesn't have to amplify a 120db sound source. But you know better than me, I suppose. I just have years of experience and a degree that says I know what I'm talking about, but we'll do it your way."
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| 1. Picking up a 12 string in a guitar store, and, of course, it's not in tune.
2. Someone else said this.... People insisting that you are not playing a song correctly unless the song is played EXACTLY the way it was played on the recording. Funny thing is I'll go to see a performer play his/her song and often it is not played by the actual performer the way it was recorded. Or else, I gave the credit to the performer, and it's actually the anonymous background guitarist playing the complicated part. |
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Location: Flahdaw | Pet Peeve # 187: I went to a free class at Guitar Center for "Introduction to Home Recording". The guy talked like a computer programmer talking to a class of other computer programmers. Within 2 minutes I had no idea what he was talking about, but I politely sat there for 40 minutes. It brought back horrible memories of calculus class at college.... |
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That being said, in order to make a record these days yourself (unless you have a very large budget to track to tape), you really need to know the ins and outs of the software, and it can be damn challenging. It took me 13 months of 75 hour weeks learning Pro Tools in college, and I'm still learning new things everyday. |
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Location: Suisun City, Ca | Pet peeve
I hate it when someone plays my guitar better than I do!
I hate that it takes more room for a case than for the guitar that came in it.
I hate that I'm still ham-handed after 32+ years. (ties in to point one)
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-The fact that these hipster/folk/acoustic bands have much more of a "country" sound than today's pop country music
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Location: GA USA | I'm not sure I have one, except that the (worship) band I play in, I make sure I have all my music in order and practiced, and I'm always on time and ready to start. The leader told me she had never worked with a guitar player who was on time and ready. Some of the other guys are young, but it's no excuse. We had a fill-in bassist who showed up assuming there would be a bass there to play. There wasn't and we had to scramble. A couple of weeks later, a fill-in guitarist who assumed there would be an amp to use. He had to run home and get his amp. Maybe I'm just old, but I lose patience with that. OK, maybe I do have one after all. |
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Location: Texas | darkbarguitar - 2013-03-25 4:26 PM
No, the new rule is one wisecrack per 215 posts.
Then you owe us 734,020 serious posts.
(Edited for mathematical accuracy.)
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(Edited for mathematical accuracy.)
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Location: Fort Worth, TX | I still remember a youth pastor at the church I used to attend. In fact, he recently came back to Texas from Oklahoma to do my daughter' wedding service. I tried playing guitar with him a few times but he's a very competitive guitar player who jumps in on what you're playing trying to rip through mediocre solos and always pauses to look up at you to gauge your response to his prolific playing (in his mind anyway). I hate competitive players who always HAVE to grab the limelight. He argues HE is the one who taught our pastor's teen son to play guitar, but the kid told me he spent all his time listening to the guy show off and credits me with having taught him. He now makes a living touring as guitarist for a succession of top Christian contemporary artists. Playing guitar is NOT a competition. |
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Location: Northwest Arkansas | I loved it when we got new P&W leaders. She wrote the charts wrong. Ab instead of G#. Db instead of C# and Gb for F# for the key of A. Everything was in flats. I explained music to her and how it actually worked and she retorted, "That's not how we did it in my other church." I promptly took a pencil and rewrote all the flat chords on my sheet music into sharp chords. Then I would sign my name to them so I would get a correct chart when the song was handed out. She got very angry. She showed a woman, who has played piano for 50 year or more, how to play a chord by taking the piano players hand and putting it on the keys in the chord position. The woman knew what the chord was and how to play it. The look on her face was priceless. Sometimes when you play in church, you never get a real critique. No matter how badly you play you're always a blessing and you played wonderful. A drunk will tell you "you suck" with no provocation. It did make me a better player playing in clubs. I just wish there were an easy way to explain to people like those P&W leaders that they might need a little more work before actually having a leadership position. They were kin to the Pastor. For what it's worth, all the good musicians quit and we all go to another church. If the church part bothers you insert a bar or club.
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Location: cincinnati, ohio | darkbarguitar - 2012-11-17 1:50 PM
The guy that plugs in at GC, then plays the intro to Stairway to Heaven poorly and loudly...over and over.
...or "Smoke On the Water." Usually a pimply faced 15 year old, which mystifies me. That's their grandfather's music. I guess it's a testimony to the staying power of the music. "Stairway..." and "Smoke On the Water" are both great tunes, but they've been (ya think?) a little overplayed and overexposed.
Worse still - TWO fifteen year olds at GC playing "Smoke on the Water" AND "Stairway." At the same time. At maximum volume.
We have a couple of hot college age babes working at our GC. One of them is a dreamy, perfect blonde who looks like a homecoming queen. The other one is sort of a Goth babe - spiky, multicolored hair, piercings and tattoos. Hot, but in a skanky way. Kinda like the girl on NCIS. They're usually at the front desk when you come in.
My pet peeve? Nothing with them. It's the old guys with long, receding white hair tied in a pony tail who still think they're babe magnets and come on to the girls. It's actually kind of sad...
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Location: cincinnati, ohio | Englishplayer - 2013-03-22 9:44 AM
Someone else said this.... People insisting that you are not playing a song correctly unless the song is played EXACTLY the way it was played on the recording. Funny thing is I'll go to see a performer play his/her song and often it is not played by the actual performer the way it was recorded. Or else, I gave the credit to the performer, and it's actually the anonymous background guitarist playing the complicated part.
Another good one.
I think the key is learning to play the "signature" licks. For example - James Taylor's "Fire & Rain," which is one of my favorite (and most requested ) covers. I make sure that I nail that intro slide lick (a signature lick if there ever was one), and the "A" hammer-ons at the end of each line. As for the rest - I just make sure I play the chords as close to possible as written, and attempt to match the picking pattern. If a chord is too much of a stretch for my slightly arthritic fingers, I either play part of it or find an easier substitution. "Hotel California" - I play the intro as close as I can; the rest is "chick, chick-a-chick" chords.
Note for note can get boring. Artists sometimes change things up just to keep it interesting for them. Think about it: some guys like JT have been doing this for 40+ years. They need to keep it fresh for themselves.
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Location: GA USA | Our band is nothing but a great time. If anything I over prepare because I don't want to be the one who holds the rest back. I also think I'm the guitar beater that you all despise. |
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Location: Denver, CO | mymartind35 - . Sometimes when you play in church, you never get a real critique. No matter how badly you play you're always a blessing and you played wonderful. A drunk will tell you "you suck" with no provocation. It did make me a better player playing in clubs. And a great big, huge +1 to that! Seems that people in church are overly fixated on "being nice," often at the expense of honesty, and often at the expense of excellence. Yes, grandma, we all appreciate your desire to serve the congregation, but there's just no place for your quarter-note-chord-pounding, 1953-hymn-singing style in "At Your Name!" I could preach on that, but I'll stop there. |
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Location: Flahdaw | rick endres - 2013-03-26 10:41 AM
It's the old guys with long, receding white hair tied in a pony tail who still think they're babe magnets and come on to the girls. It's actually kind of sad...
Hey! Waskel resents that remark. |
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Location: Northwest Arkansas | dwg preacher - 2013-03-26 12:52 PM
mymartind35 - . Sometimes when you play in church, you never get a real critique. No matter how badly you play you're always a blessing and you played wonderful. A drunk will tell you "you suck" with no provocation. It did make me a better player playing in clubs. And a great big, huge +1 to that! Seems that people in church are overly fixated on "being nice," often at the expense of honesty, and often at the expense of excellence. Yes, grandma, we all appreciate your desire to serve the congregation, but there's just no place for your quarter-note-chord-pounding, 1953-hymn-singing style in "At Your Name!" I could preach on that, but I'll stop there.
Thanks preacher. I didn't want it to seem I was picking on someone. You understood my premise. We don't all do things the same way. But there is a standard that I try to keep. I've found that lacking in other places too. |
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Location: Denver, CO | Finding excellence in music is a tough chore in any environment. So few people understand the difference between "that sounds pretty good," and "that's great," and that applies to musicians who want to be in a band as well as musicians who want to be a band leader. Those of you who play strictly secular music should consider yourselves lucky, because you always have the option of saying, "you just don't seem to understand, or you just aren't good enough, or you just don't seem to be able to get here consistently, I don't want to work with you anymore." As a minister, you are pretty much stuck with the talent level, commitment level, and personalies that the congregation offers you, and your duty is to encourage and adapt and nurture, AND produce as high-quality a program as possible. When you introduce a poorly prepared or ignorant leader, things can get really frustrating really quickly. |
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Location: Flahdaw | Peeve #97- Going somewhere to play guitar and realizing you forgot to trim your fingernails before you left. ARGH!!
I remember going to a gathering at Iffy's a few years back without trimming my nails first. I mentioned it in frustration, and Gator says "Oh, I have some clippers in my bag. I always bring clippers with me." He opened this case and he had about everything you could ever need for playing guitar inside. Now THAT guy comes prepared.... |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | I TRY (and occasionally fail....) to have any 'pet' peeves. If you don't feed 'em they won't hang around long....
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What are your musical pet peeves?