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slothead
Posted 2012-07-08 11:13 AM (#456313)
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anyone got any tips on how to stop my pick slipping ?

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alpep
Posted 2012-07-08 1:09 PM (#456317 - in reply to #456313)
Subject: Re: pick slipping


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hold it tighter
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PEZ
Posted 2012-07-08 1:18 PM (#456320 - in reply to #456313)
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Try DAVA picks the surface upper part is not smooth so you can grip it.
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Standingovation
Posted 2012-07-08 1:26 PM (#456322 - in reply to #456313)
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Rough it up a bit with some sand paper
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2012-07-08 1:39 PM (#456323 - in reply to #456313)
Subject: RE: pick slipping



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slothead - 2012-07-08 9:13 AM

anyone got any tips on how to stop my pick slipping ?


Snarling Dogs Brain Picks




These or some similarly textured picks.... Or a thumb pick?


Or a drop of Krazy Glue...
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nikon4004
Posted 2012-07-08 1:41 PM (#456324 - in reply to #456313)
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I use Dunlop TORTEX picks. THe material seems to stick when your hands get sweaty.
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standing
Posted 2012-07-08 3:00 PM (#456327 - in reply to #456320)
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PEZ - 2012-07-08 1:18 PM

Try DAVA picks the surface upper part is not smooth so you can grip it.


+1

The Dava "Grip Tip" picks have raised rubber-like "grips." I like the feel of them, (ymmv):

http://www.davapick.com/

 





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Monttexan
Posted 2012-07-08 3:10 PM (#456328 - in reply to #456313)
Subject: Re: pick slipping


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Or, for a cheap fix, take a paper punch and punch a hole in the center of the "holding" area of the pick. Read this suggestion (by luthier Dan Erlewine) in a book, tried it, and like it. No need to pay more for fancy picks....unless you just like how they look!
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slothead
Posted 2012-07-08 3:34 PM (#456331 - in reply to #456328)
Subject: Re: pick slipping


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had thought about punching a hole in the middle of the pick was going to use a drill, then thought of band aids but these come off and leave sticky adhesive , then was going to glue sand paper to the pick, i thought there maybe picks out there with holes already in them? but the paper punch looks a good idea

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elginacres
Posted 2012-07-08 5:24 PM (#456335 - in reply to #456313)
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ditoo on the paper punch - play around with a few for the exact position you like
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TAFKAR
Posted 2012-07-08 6:03 PM (#456336 - in reply to #456313)
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+1 on the Snarling Dogs Brain Picks - they're my go-to pick at the moment.
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Geetarism
Posted 2012-07-08 6:26 PM (#456337 - in reply to #456313)
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Totally been sold on the snarling dogs for years. Ha the same issue with dunlops and all smooth pics. Once I switched to SD I couldn't use another. Took a bit to get used to but I've been sold on the for some time!
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muzza
Posted 2012-07-08 6:58 PM (#456338 - in reply to #456313)
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+1 for Snarlin Dogs.
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Damon67
Posted 2012-07-08 8:06 PM (#456341 - in reply to #456338)
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slothead
Posted 2012-07-09 7:25 AM (#456364 - in reply to #456313)
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what gauge is good for strumming in the snarling dogs?
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AdamasW597
Posted 2012-07-09 8:27 AM (#456368 - in reply to #456313)
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Fiddle rosin. Put it on any pick you'll hold on to it.
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Geetarism
Posted 2012-07-09 9:14 AM (#456371 - in reply to #456364)
Subject: Re: pick slipping



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I go either .60 or .53. Both allow for strumming and capable of flatpicking if u need to change up.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2012-07-09 12:27 PM (#456381 - in reply to #456364)
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slothead - 2012-07-09 5:25 AM

what gauge is good for strumming in the snarling dogs?

I use the Black 88's.

I first got the Red 73's but they were too flimsy for me, and they made that annoying clicking noise.

88's are pretty firm, with just a bit of "give".

But I don't know what type of picks you usually like.
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slothead
Posted 2012-07-09 12:51 PM (#456383 - in reply to #456371)
Subject: Re: pick slipping


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i usually use medium picks
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Geetarism
Posted 2012-07-09 4:21 PM (#456396 - in reply to #456381)
Subject: Re: pick slipping



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arthurseery - 2012-07-09 2:27 PM

slothead - 2012-07-09 5:25 AM

what gauge is good for strumming in the snarling dogs?

I use the Black 88's.

I first got the Red 73's but they were too flimsy for me, and they made that annoying clicking noise.

88's are pretty firm, with just a bit of "give".

But I don't know what type of picks you usually like.


Good point. I actually like that plastic clicking noise. So if your trying to avoid it going heavier is a must
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2012-07-09 9:14 PM (#456408 - in reply to #456324)
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nikon4004 - 2012-07-08 11:41 AM

I use Dunlop TORTEX picks. THe material seems to stick when your hands get sweaty.


+ 1
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2012-07-09 9:16 PM (#456409 - in reply to #456317)
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alpep - 2012-07-08 11:09 AM

hold it tighter


Actually... I find the opposite true. I find a firm but relaxed grip works the best. If my hands start to sweat, which they always do, I found trying to hold tighter just makes it worse and I end up squeezing them out of my grip.
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SOBeach
Posted 2012-07-09 10:26 PM (#456414 - in reply to #456324)
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nikon4004 - 2012-07-08 2:41 PM I use Dunlop TORTEX picks. THe material seems to stick when your hands get sweaty.

I've been using the Dunlop ULTEX picks. They don't slip either. IMO

( pack of 6 for under $5 at GC )  

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muzza
Posted 2012-07-09 10:37 PM (#456415 - in reply to #456313)
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If I'm doing really fast strumming I'll use red or green ones.
For flat picking I'll use the black ones.
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TAFKAR
Posted 2012-07-10 8:02 PM (#456463 - in reply to #456409)
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mileskb - 2012-07-10 2:16 PM

alpep - 2012-07-08 11:09 AM

hold it tighter


Actually... I find the opposite true. I find a firm but relaxed grip works the best. If my hands start to sweat, which they always do, I found trying to hold tighter just makes it worse and I end up squeezing them out of my grip.


There's the dilemma: tight grip, loose wrist.
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slothead
Posted 2012-07-11 1:38 PM (#456486 - in reply to #456327)
Subject: Re: pick slipping


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standing - 2012-07-08 9:00 PM

PEZ - 2012-07-08 1:18 PM

Try DAVA picks the surface upper part is not smooth so you can grip it.


+1

The Dava "Grip Tip" picks have raised rubber-like "grips." I like the feel of them, (ymmv):

http://www.davapick.com/

 


whats the differance between gel, delrin and nylon? wich is best for regular strumming
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kitmann
Posted 2012-07-12 12:42 AM (#456506 - in reply to #456313)
Subject: Re: pick slipping



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Dunlop 88mm or Gravity picks. Oh an when I play out there are several picks attached to the mic stand just in case.
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rick endres
Posted 2012-07-12 10:33 AM (#456512 - in reply to #456313)
Subject: Re: pick slipping


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I don't mess with picks much; most of the time I finger strum, but I do have a special pick I use for when I absolutely need one. My solution might be kind of radical. I take a Fred Kelly Speed Pick (a thumb pick with a thin center tang instead of a thick blade like a National thumbpick) and I clip off the center tang. I put a strip of thin Velcro on the thumbpick under where my thumb would be, and then attach another strip of Velcro to a Dunlop nylon pick, which is virtually indestructible. I attach the Dunlop to the thumbpick. I use a very light gauge (.38 mm) for "pendulum" type strumming (like Eagles and Lightfoot), and a .46 mm for songs that need a little bass/chord action. It's just like holding a regular pick, except the thumbpick keeps you from worrying about hanging on to a pick. Usually, for straight-up strumming, I just strum away with my thumb, but when I need more control - like picking bass notes - I put my index finger under my thumb, as if I were holding a regular flat pick. I find, too, that my strumming speed really increases with it, and it sounds so nice and clean. The Velcro gives it just enough flex so it doesn't sound stiff. Try it!

PS - I've tried those Herco flat/thumb picks pictured above, and they're virtually useless. They're flimsy, and they come off your thumb on the first upstroke. That's what led me to try making my own - and I'm happy with it.

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rick endres
Posted 2012-07-12 2:29 PM (#456515 - in reply to #456313)
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Here's a pic of the Kelly Speedpick as a visual aid. I clip off the middle tang even with the edge of the two outside tangs, then mount the Dunlop on the thumbpick. I use a yellow light gauge Kelly (which is still just a little too stiff for me):

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Darkbar
Posted 2012-07-14 3:35 PM (#456571 - in reply to #456313)
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Rick, your thumb pick is giving me the finger...
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rick endres
Posted 2012-07-14 10:25 PM (#456589 - in reply to #456313)
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Yeah - that's why I clip it off. Bad finger!

(Wait a minute - there was a group by that name...)
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rick endres
Posted 2012-08-03 2:40 PM (#457344 - in reply to #456313)
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Something about the Velcro - I think the "loops" on the Velcro strips build in a little "give" when you strum. I tried attaching the pick and the sawed-off thumbpick with double-sided tape, and it was too stiff to give a natural strumming sound.
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AdamasW597
Posted 2012-08-03 4:11 PM (#457348 - in reply to #456313)
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I got a pick in a guitar I bought on eBay. It said "Cool" on it and heavy on the other side. They had some kind of soft rubber on the pick. It wore off after a few weeks, but it was one of the few picks I can hold on to. I use purple Tortex's most of the time. I do a lot of Merle Travis and Chet stuff and I use the Fred Kelly. I use the heavy white and the medium orange. A LOT better than Dunlop or National.

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