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Location: south east Michigan | This morning I was switching back & forth between my UTE, AD-II, & my '71 Balladeer when I noticed something. I can feel, I mean really feel the bowl of the Balladeer vibrate on my ribcage. With the UTE and AD-II.... nothing.
All three deep bowls. One is a cutaway.
What do ya think?
Different bowl materials? I'm 99.9% sure the Balladeer does not have the older hand laid bowl.
Is the top attached differently?
Do bowls "open up" after 30 plus years?? |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Good question , I do not experience much " chest -ponding " with either the 1537 nor the 1617 , however , with the 1618 ( 12 stringer ) I can feel it , oddly it`s my Wash. J9 (slimline hollowbody ) that delivers that grand -piano growl ( unplugged ) ...
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Good question , I do not experience much " chest -ponding " with either the 1537 nor the 1617 , however , with the 1618 ( 12 stringer ) I can feel it , oddly it`s my Wash. J9 (slimline hollowbody ) that delivers that grand -piano growl ( unplugged ) ... :)
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | What ??..I do not even type fast...I can n`t even type ..am not fast either... |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Just guessing, but the '71 Balladeer probably has a hand-laid bowl...
My little ol' 1121 is very light, and I'm sure it has a hand-laid bowl.
It vibrates more and sounds better than it's 1621 brother...
Do the other bowls have the injection-molded Ovation USA lettering in them? |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | I can't believe the timing of this topic.
Just this AM I was checking the tuning on the 1997 and I noticed the bowl vibrating into my chest, especially the A and D strings.
I usually play softly and never noticed the sensation before. I'll have to check some of my other 'O's. |
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Location: SoCal | I was under the impression that all the bowls were hand laid until the early 1980's when Ovation went to injection bowls. Anybody know anything different on this? |
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Location: south east Michigan | Paul knows all.
I guess I do have a hand laid bowl. |
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Location: Bluffton, SC | Careful now JW, Cliff, Tupp, fill and well, a lot of others... |
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Location: Scotland | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
I was under the impression that all the bowls were hand laid until the early 1980's when Ovation went to injection bowls. Anybody know anything different on this? I may be wrong but I think the change from hand-laid to SMC bowls corresponded with the introduction of the K-Bar. Pre K-bar anything with a wood neckblock would be a hand-laid bowl. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Brad, It has nothing to do with the bowl itself. It's the TOP. The top on your '71 Balladeer is pumping the hell out of the bowl and hence you "feel" it in your gut. I've experienced this on some guitars also. But it does not seem to correlate to how well they sound. One of my that gave me belly cramps it vibrated so much, actually sounded like crap. Dave |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | I noticed this with the first strum of the '67 Shiny Bowl... the whole thing vibrates like an epileptic.
... on amphetamines |
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Location: Bluffton, SC | "But it does not seem to correlate to how well they sound."
Totally agree, Dave. I've played some that pumped out a ton of noise but I really didn't appreciate it all that much. Guess that's why they make different tops and different bracing. |
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Location: Michigan | !!!!!!!!!!!! AHHH BULLSHIT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All of you are just getting bigger & fatter
:p BEER BELLYS :p
and like a good guitar you are absorbing and feeling the reverberation of the guitar more.GWB |
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