My Bridge and Saddle Need Help
TOPDOGJIM
Posted 2008-03-17 3:51 PM (#49077)
Subject: My Bridge and Saddle Need Help


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Hi Guys,
My recent purchase of a 40 year old 1111-4 has a problem. The bridge seems to be to wide and the saddle leans forward as a result. Any ideas as to what to do. I was going to try and put in a shim in the front of it, but I can't even find a place that sells them. Would it be easier to buy a new wider saddle and fit it to the slot?

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Capo Guy
Posted 2008-03-17 4:11 PM (#49078 - in reply to #49077)
Subject: Re: My Bridge and Saddle Need Help



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Could you post a picture?
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bauerhillboy
Posted 2008-03-17 4:56 PM (#49079 - in reply to #49077)
Subject: Re: My Bridge and Saddle Need Help


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Saddles commonly come in 2 thicknesses...3/32" and 1/8". There are exceptions.

Measure the thickness of the slot. You can buy blanks that are oversized and then you sand and shape to fit your needs.

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Mitchrx
Posted 2008-03-17 5:04 PM (#49080 - in reply to #49077)
Subject: Re: My Bridge and Saddle Need Help


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Those older Balladeers have an unusual size saddle slot in the bridge. The saddle on yours sounds like it's not the original one. I once hand made a new bone saddle for one of these Balladeers from a 1/4" blank that I bought at GC for $5. It was a lot of work to get the saddle to the right thickness, but the rest of the shaping was easy by comparison.

My suggestions:
1) email Kim Keller at the factory to see if they have any.
2) get a bone blank, some sandpaper. a solid flat working suface and try to DIY.
3) Send it (or bring it, you're close enough to New Hartford) to the factory and have them do it.

If you choose plan 3 it'll cost you a bit more but the factory will level/dress the frets and set it up to perfection.
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Steve
Posted 2008-03-17 6:43 PM (#49081 - in reply to #49077)
Subject: Re: My Bridge and Saddle Need Help


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I vote for #2. Saddles are fairly easy to work with. I'm not a rocket scientist and I did the saddle on my daughter's acoustic. It has killer action now, better than my Legend. (until it comes back from a factory neck reset.. :) )
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Beal
Posted 2008-03-17 7:14 PM (#49082 - in reply to #49077)
Subject: Re: My Bridge and Saddle Need Help



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#2.
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TOPDOGJIM
Posted 2008-03-18 8:22 AM (#49083 - in reply to #49077)
Subject: Re: My Bridge and Saddle Need Help


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Thanks guys, #2 it is.

I will let you know how bad I mess it up, lol.


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BT717
Posted 2008-03-18 9:11 AM (#49084 - in reply to #49077)
Subject: Re: My Bridge and Saddle Need Help


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Hey TopDog,
Talk to chris and ask him for suggesions. He is real good at thing like this. I "fixed" My Elite and my Jumbo Parkwood.
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BT717
Posted 2008-03-18 9:12 AM (#49085 - in reply to #49077)
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Top Dog,
Talk to Chris, because he fixed them. Still not 100%
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Mitchrx
Posted 2008-03-18 4:21 PM (#49086 - in reply to #49077)
Subject: Re: My Bridge and Saddle Need Help


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Originally posted by TOPDOGJIM:
Thanks guys, #2 it is.

I will let you know how bad I mess it up, lol.


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The key to sucess is to have a flat hard working surface that you can clamp the sandpaper to. I used a small slab of Corian. I cut the blank to length first, sanded to the correct thickness, then shaped the top to match the original saddle. The last step is to sand the bottom of the saddle for proper action. It's boring work. A tight fitting rubber glove (Playtex) helps to keep a good grip on the saddle. Work slow, have a beer. The hardest part was getting the thickness even. Mark how much material needs to be sanded away on all sides with a sharp pencil. If you really screw up, get another blank and try again.
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TOPDOGJIM
Posted 2008-03-18 7:53 PM (#49087 - in reply to #49077)
Subject: Re: My Bridge and Saddle Need Help


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Thanks Mitchrx, now that you mentioned it, I will order two to start off with.

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2ifbyC
Posted 2008-03-18 8:04 PM (#49088 - in reply to #49077)
Subject: Re: My Bridge and Saddle Need Help
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From what I overheard while stationed in Idaho, I can confirm that a loose saddle can cause denture problems!
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Chuck (Retired Navy)
Posted 2008-03-18 8:48 PM (#49089 - in reply to #49077)
Subject: Re: My Bridge and Saddle Need Help


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A loose saddle can also cause you to fall off of your horse. ;)
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2ifbyC
Posted 2008-03-18 8:53 PM (#49090 - in reply to #49077)
Subject: Re: My Bridge and Saddle Need Help
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Originally posted by Chuck (Retired Navy):
A loose saddle can also cause you to fall off of your horse. ;)
Ergo, denture issues...
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Chuck (Retired Navy)
Posted 2008-03-18 9:15 PM (#49091 - in reply to #49077)
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As long as I don't fall off my truck.

(Charlotte, NC)
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