Another Truss-Rod Question - Yes, I already did a Search
Old Man Arthur
Posted 2008-03-17 10:04 PM (#49030)
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Do I have to loosen the strings to increase the relief on the neck?

I have a teeny bit of buzz on my treble strings on my CS257, (so I don't have to loosen the strings to get my hand in the sound-hole).

When I do the "capo-on-the-first-fret-finger-on-the-thirteenth-fret" trick, I get a dull thud on the higher five strings...

I realize that if I put heavier strings on it that would probably cure the problem... :p

Anyway, I was thinking that since I am loosening the tension, with it in tune it would be alot easier to know when I get it right.
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Capo Guy
Posted 2008-03-17 10:18 PM (#49031 - in reply to #49030)
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Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:

Do I have to loosen the strings to increase the relief on the neck?
No. I would not go more than 1/8 of a turn. let it settle for a few hours before going any more but you should be able to see an improvement right away.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2008-03-17 10:29 PM (#49032 - in reply to #49030)
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Thanx! :cool:

Leftie-Lucy, Right?
Now I gotta find a truss-rod wrench...
Or whichever allen wrench is applicable!
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2008-03-17 10:37 PM (#49033 - in reply to #49030)
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But Arthur , even when you`re able to relieve truss -tension , the strings would de -tune..( a little , but sufficiently ).. :)

Vic
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2008-03-17 10:39 PM (#49034 - in reply to #49030)
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Yeah, but I will be able to tell if they have stopped buzzing...

At least do the 1st and 13th fret check for clearance. [I'm hopin']
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2008-03-17 10:53 PM (#49035 - in reply to #49030)
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Maybe ya`ve taken -out a shim too many...naaahh , it`s probably a truss -issue..

Vic
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2008-03-17 11:42 PM (#49036 - in reply to #49030)
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1/8 turn, Lefty-Lucy, and I can tell the difference when I check for clearance. Time to put it back together and play it.
Then see how the clearance is tomorrow, after it has had a day to sink-in...

And Yeah, I probably took-out a shim too many. But that would be the easy fix!
What's the fun in That?

Y'know? This thing sounds weird with the back plate off...
Not in a Good Way either.
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-03-18 5:33 AM (#49037 - in reply to #49030)
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Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
Do I have to loosen the strings to increase the relief on the neck?

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Forgive me for asking, Why would you want to loosen the strings? :confused: :p
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2008-03-18 7:14 AM (#49038 - in reply to #49030)
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Any neckrod adjustments should be made with the strings at normal pitch.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2008-03-18 9:13 AM (#49039 - in reply to #49030)
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Originally posted by Trader Jim:
Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
Do I have to loosen the strings to increase the relief on the neck?

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Forgive me for asking, Why would you want to loosen the strings? :confused: :p
Cuz I read somewhere to loosen the strings when fixing 'too high' relief, so I was just checking...
Never hurts too ask. :cool:
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2008-03-18 9:28 AM (#49040 - in reply to #49030)
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I had my EA Viper refretted at the Mothership over the past month. A few weeks after it was returned, I used it with the band and discovered too late that the neck needed some relief. Since it was fine when it arrived, I'm sure it had something to do with the difference in climate between CT and CO, particularly since it changed so quickly. An 1/8th turn wasn't enough for me. It was at least a quarter, or even slightly more. I'll check it again after a few more days and put a little more tension back into it if necessary.
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-03-18 1:44 PM (#49041 - in reply to #49030)
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Sorry OMA, I thought it was common knowledge about adjusting the neck with the strings at full tune...My Bad.
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