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Location: Phoenix AZ | Anyone seen this guitar:
GC SHINY BOWL
Did I lend it to someone here?
Did I sell it to someone here?
I honestly don't know where the heck it is. I went through all my cases and it does not seem to be anywhere.
I sold an old shiny bowl orange lined case to someone not long ago. I forget who. Was there a guitar in the case when you got it?
I normally keep everything pretty well organized but this one seems to have totally disappeared. I sure hope it's not gone because it would be damn near impossible to replace.
Do I need a P.I. ???
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | Dave,Dave,Dave...
Obviously a symptom of having WAY too many guitars. You sold it a couple years back...I'm thinking to MusicMishka but I don't see it in his guitar list.
Of course, the fact that I'm remembering what YOU did with YOUR guitars is probably even a worse symptom on my part... |
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Location: Tennessee | I have a guitar that looks nearly identical to that, but it has different tuners and no autograph on the headstock.
I used to know a P.I., but he's gone missing. I was going to hire him to go locate himself, but I couldn't find him. |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Day-um Tup, this is the epitome of a tragic comedy.
You'll take some heat on this one, but I feel bad fer ya! Good luck! |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | It wasn't me...I have a shiny bowl Balladeer 12...and it is not in great condition, but I love it anyway!
Best wishes Dave...I'm sure it'll turn up...
Children: there's just so many places they can hide... |
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Location: big island | dave,
check with standingovation. perhaps he sold it when tupperware wasn't looking.
or check with tacky on the other forum. he might know something about it, although he is more into takamines than ovations. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I definately had it about 6 weeks ago. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | So, did you take it to Amelia island? Did you bring it back? |
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Location: Atlanta, GA. | Just what we've been needing... a good mystery.
"The Case of the Empty Case". |
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"Dude...." |
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Location: nashville | Wow!!I just had a GC Shinny show up on my door step. It said it's owner had stopped feeding it 5 weeks ago. No collar or case.
It did look malnourished but I told it I would take good care of it and never make it play Mr. Tambourine Man. It loves to be stroked and Boy does it Purrrr. |
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Location: Parrish, FL | Dave,
Do you have a JW Re-Issue case you want to unload? :D
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Location: south east Michigan | posted May 26, 2008 09:09 AMquote:
Originally posted by MusicMishka:
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I'm afraid it's gone. Most likely the painters who where in our house last month lifted it. But why THAT one? I'm gonna buy a Taylor and sit it right out in the open so any time somebody wants to steal a guitar they'll take that one instead.
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Geez Dave... That's awful. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Time to call the PPD...they can chase down the painters and check the pawn shops in the area (and Tucson as well)...Was this on display or in the case? I'm guessing that if on display, they saw the Glen Campbell sig. on the headstock and figured it to be a signed guitar...hope that it can be found...sorry my friend... |
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Location: south east Michigan | Let's all keep an eye open on e-bay and creiglist.
That guitar won't stay hidden forever. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Yes, would apreciate everyone keeping there eyes open. I filed a report with the PD, not sure what they'll do. Contacted the Painting Co. of course they stand by their employees and asure me that none of them would do such a thing, but they'll ask around (sure). I'll start contacting pawn shops tomorrow myself. Dave |
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Location: Tennessee | What a bummer Dave. I'm all for forming up a posse and hunting the varmint down. Our own little True Grit. 'Cept this time Glen comes back alive. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Police report filed.
I'm in the process of contacting local pawn shops (shit, there's about 100 of them in Phoenix alone).
Also making "Wanted" posters to give to all the pawnshops and post in all music shops.
Fortunately with my website I've got a good photo history of it including a good photo of the label. People asked if there was any record of a serial number registration by the manufacturer (there isn't) but I gave them a screen-print of the s/n registration page from the website. Who ever thought that I would be the first to really NEED it.
Insurance is no help. I've got a $1000. deductable and I have no receipt of the value of the guitar. The only record is that it sold for $449. back in 1968.
PLEASE look over the photos on my site and familiarize yourself with this guitar and if you have any leads please let me know.
http://www.ovationgallery.com/pageoriginalgc12.htm
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Location: SoCal | this is becoming VERY interesting... |
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Location: South of most, North of few | ...and now in our for sale section... |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | From Daves website:
From the EBay auction:
Looks like the same guitar to me... |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | From Daves website:
From the EBay auction:
Looks like the same guitar to me... |
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Location: SoCal | It's his guitar. It's a one of a kind (whole story on the inlaid (sorta) rosette). He's working on it. Let's give him some room and see what happens..... |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Cool: there are a lot of us who have been on the lookout for him...hope it gets resolved soon...at least it's not south of the border... |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | He openly states it was bought from Dave so it doesn't seem all that mysterious to me. Dave even wondered in his first post if he had sold it to a member.
If Dave really wants it back I am sure he will get something worked out. |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Did everyone miss the 7th POST HERE ?
Nevermind, I just went over to the For Sale forum and saw it there... |
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Location: Stratford, Connecticut | Dave sold me the guitar about 2 years ago... I have a case with it.. I even still have the old emails where I checked with Dave if he had gotten my US Postal Money Orders... he actually posted UP HERE that he was selling it! So if this is the same one... there should be record on these boards still... maybe in the archives... that he had it up for sale back then and I answered him directly to purchase it. Wow! I never knew this went on in May 2008... of course... in Jan 2008 I went into a Diabetic Coma and nearly died... and in May 2008 I was well into another residence for a bit of time and I wasn't even accessing the boards I believe? So.. that would make sense. But YES Dave... you DID sell this guitar... I believe I sent you two postal MO's over a period of time prior to 12/2008 and you sold me this guitar.. in a case... that's that! Let me know if you remember now... thanks everybody for any dectective work or memories of the sale! I don't want my auction to suffer for any sort of reason here.... All the best, God bless!
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | This is just another wonderful indicator of the class of family folk we have here!
Mike Joe, glad to hear you're doing better!
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Ok, ok, the world isn't spinning off it's axis. Mystery solved and good to know the guitar has been in good hands. Dispite major brain fart and severe pre-alzheimers symptoms connect the dots I did infact sell this guitar to MJK.
I honestly had no freaking recollection of it at all. Many guitars were all packed away in cases, house tipped upside down in rennovations, numerous workers in the house and a month later looking for the GC12 and it was gone. But case and hang tags still in my hand. I asked around here and nobody had knowledge of it being borrowed or sold. I didnt; want to believe that a worker had stolen it, but that was the only conclusion I could draw. So filed a police report, but they turned up nothing.
Turns out the whole transaction was well documented in PMs, but those were all in the old Tupperware account that I never accessed anymore. If I had happened to look in there it would have been obvious. As far as the case I think the house was such a mess that I just shipped MJK the guitar in whatever case I had handy, so that's why the one wiht the GC12 label on it is still in my house.
WHY would I sell such a guitar is still a mystery. One of the rarest of them all. About 100 made, and just a subset of those with the small soundhole. What the heck was I thinking. Timewise this is about when I pickup a 9k Collings, so I may have been a little short on guitar funds is all I can think. The other things was that the U681-12 was (and still is) consuming all of my 12-string play time. Three other 12-strings were sold after this GC12 left.
Well anyway, there you have it. The mystery is solved. I guess I better apologize to the police for the filing a false report. I'll also apologize to the contractor company - I know the police grilled them pretty hard, hopefully nobody got deported. Should I bid on the ebay auction? Wow, I'm really tempted. But at the same time I've sorta made peace with not having the GC12 around. I feel like Chuck Noland returning to his "home".
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Dave,
That's known as a 'senior moment'! Don't ask how I know... 
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Location: Stratford, Connecticut | I'm very happy to unkmowingly solve the mystery for Dave though.. I actually wrote Dave a couple weeks ago as well saying to Dave that I was preparing to sell this and my Adamas Steve Lukather... now gone... asking if he could remind me of the facts of the GC and he asked me to remind him which GC it was that he had sold me!!!! hahahahaha! Well I guess I, in a rounabout way, DEFINITELY reminded Dave which one it was now! hahahahaha! Maybe we should make arrangements to get the paperwork and case though? I put the picture up of the case I did get with this guitar though.. and it has that sticker on it... GC12? But what paperwork is missing then, that maybe I should have for the next owner? Hmmmmmm.... Let me know your thoughts!
Awesome that minds are at rest though.. that's always good news no matter what.
All the best my friends.... God bless!
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Location: Texas | Forgot you sold a guitar? I know what SWMBO would say about that… ;)
Does that mean you can also forget you weren't supposed to buy any more, too? ;)
Now I won't feel so bad when I buy a book I have already read or a CD that I already own…
Not too long ago, I bought a book and discovered it was already on the shelf at home, when I realized it, I offered it to a friend. He gave me an odd look and said "you're kidding, right?" Turns out that last year, I had done the same thing and already given him the second copy back then, and this was now the THIRD time I bought the same book, and the second time I offered a duplicate to the same friend…
(I've probably posted that story before, if so, please forgive me, I don't remember…) ;)
…senior moments are pretty awful, but we might as well laugh about them, not much else we can do…
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Location: Marlton, NJ | I kind of did the same thing with a book. At first I thought it was the most bizarre case of deja vu I had ever experienced. I bought this book and read it - the whole time I was reading it, I kept thinking it sounded so familiar and I had read it before. It went through all of the books in the house to make sure and no luck.
I finally realized that I had listened to the book as an audiobook a couple of years before that.
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | I already made a post about this in MJK's thread but just have to add...this is one of the most convincing cases for GAS that I have ever heard!
For God's sake Dave, don't tell the Missus! |
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Location: Indiana | Hell, I forgot a whole year once. 1977.
I look like I'm having a good time in all the pictures... |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Originally posted by CrimsonLake:
I was seriously worried about my mental state... Mike,
As a family, we're all concerned 'bout that! As for myself, there's no turning < ummm, what's the word? >...  |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Glad this is at a good ending...only trouble is that if SWMBO reads this, she may get the idea that if she sells one of mine, surely I wouldn't miss it...(really dear, don't you remember selling that one?)...lol
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Dave has met SWMBO and my parents. He acted completely normal. When I tried to use him as an example of "you think I'm crazy, you should see Dave" they didn't believe me. Diabolical. |
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | If you go to youtube and type in The Remember Song, you'll hear Tom Rush singing about this subject. |
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Location: Michigan | so can anyone say what a good price would be for this one.it seems that a few people have come in contact and played with this one.GWB |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Starting bid is an excellent price. |
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Location: SoCal | all I can tell you that if I ever sell mine (1968 Balladeer, shiny bowl, not the GC), it wouldn't be less than $1,000. This looks like a great guitar for a great price...
This is mine:
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Location: Stratford, Connecticut | I definitely hope to keep this guitar in the family... so I hope you all bid to win and that it's convenient for you to be up in the last few minutes of the auction! I'm already getting crazy questions from people who "KNOW" this guitar and feel that $550 shipped is a good offer!! Yowza! Hahahaha! Okay then! Riiiiiiight! LOL
Go for it gang! I hope "we" win! Thanks! MJK |
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Location: Nashville TN. | Damn sorry you lost it.
Who had access to it?? |
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Location: Stratford, Connecticut | He aold it to me Pez.. he just forgot, that's all. Read all the posts, you'll see what happened more clearly. Its up on eBay now too. All the best my friend! MJK |
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | Dave;
Do you remember what you had done to the GC12 to restore it? I know you had sent it back to mother for a spa treatment of some sort.
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Location: Tennessee | Originally posted by Tony Calman:
all I can tell you that if I ever sell mine (1968 Balladeer, shiny bowl, not the GC), it wouldn't be less than $1,000. This looks like a great guitar for a great price...
Ditto. I was playing mine this weekend. WOW. All I can say is that I think your price is way too low, Tony. ;) |
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by Bluebird:
Dave;
Do you remember what you had done to the GC12 to restore it? I know you had sent it back to mother for a spa treatment of some sort.
I can see the bridge has been changed and it looks there might be a sealed crack below the bridge. If memory serves, the rosette is actually an overlaid rosette that was sanded down a bit from the back and slightly inlaid into the top of the guitar where the original inlaid rosette used to be. I think you can feel that it's slightly raised from the top..... |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Bluebird:
Dave;
Do you remember what you had done to the GC12 to restore it? - neck reset
- frets dressed
- new bridge
- new saddle
- new nut
- refinished top
- new rosette
This was only about a year before I sold it to Michael. It was not cheap to do, but it's a great guitar. Would not surprise me at all to see it go around 1500. or so.
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Wayne, you should buy this. Perfect match for your 6 string ... |
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Location: Stratford, Connecticut | Dave, thanks again for letting me use the info on the guitar to help the sale. I did my best to keep any direct names out of it. I hope we're cool now? I've definitely had it very hard the past couple years and I am just trying to get the best I can for most all of my collection presently because I have a lot to worry about being disabled now and as bad as my diabetes is and my head to toe nerve damage and all that stuff.. Just want to be understood because I am bankrupt and trying to somehow pay into an ever growing quarter mill in hospital bills and more... But I do have state health now! So things are shaping up.. it just has taken WAY too long. Thanks again and hope to be friends with everyone as long as God allows! All the best! Michael |
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Location: Munich, Germany | Dave, just in case you're wondering were this one has "dissapeared"...
... I'd love to remind you: You sold it to me. And I still love it. Like I did from the beginning!!! Thanks again, my friend,
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | quote:
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Ditto. I was playing mine this weekend. WOW. All I can say is that I think your price is way too low, Tony.
Mine is not in as good shape as either of yours but it has definate soul, mojo, and sounds fantastic...the stories it could tell...it was unplayable when I won it on eBay two years ago for way south of $300...it will not sell that cheaply again....
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Koenig Kurt:
Dave, just in case you're wondering were this one has "dissapeared"... Ah, so THAT'S who I loaned it to! Just a reminder - please loosen the strings before you ship it back, OK?
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Location: Munich, Germany | Originally posted by Gallerinski:
...Man I would HATE to take an inventory of the guitars I've sold in moments of weakness. So, the best would be to close Ovationgallery.com. |
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Location: Stratford, Connecticut | As a photographer and definitely at a loss for the ability to play like I used to... I need to have as many pictures of all my guitars as I can take as much as possible! hahahahaa!
Now I'm into bringing them to locations that might fit the theme or the reasons why I owned them and taking a bunch of shots... for memory's sake.
In the end maybe I'll have a nice album to flip thru.. or for my friends and family to remember me by! ;^)
Gorgeous guitar Michael! You did a great restoration so it seems! Awesome!
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Location: Munich, Germany | Originally posted by Michael Joseph Kramer:
Now I'm into bringing them to locations that might fit the theme or the reasons why I owned them and taking a bunch of shots... for memory's sake. Michael, just in case you're interested -
here is a link to my #47\'s trip through my hometown Munich, germany.
Best regards and good luck with the sale,
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Location: Stratford, Connecticut | Wow! Now THAT is awesome Kurt! Wish my hometown was Munich Germany now! hahahahaha! I am partly German, hence the name, Kramer... but mostly Italian. Traveling would be really tough on me though in my condition... but I definitely would love to sometime! Thanks brother! All the best.. Nice guitar too my rriend! Best of luck with it! MJK |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | You forgot Marionplatz and the Glockenspiel, Kurt. You could have let me take pictures of it while I was there. I did visit the music store on Sonnenstrasse?? It was forgettable. |
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Location: Munich, Germany | Yes, Glockenspiel. To take that picture I would have to throw the guitar in the air. Isn't there a catapult left from one of your factory visits?
And yes, there is no really good store in munich.
We have one fascinating store where I buy online (well, not the best way to buy guitars, but.. it works) in Franfurt. Karl started a thread once about it.
They have the most amazing guitars on stock I have ever seen. In quality and quantity.
Beste regards,
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Location: Stratford, Connecticut | By the way...
Make sure you all bid hard and heavy on my 1118-4 tonight by 9pm PDT! That's midnight eastern and 5am London time! hahahahahaha! Thanks! MJK |
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Location: Flahdaw | Originally posted by PEZ:
Damn sorry you lost it.
Who had access to it?? This was classic!!! Go back to the beginning post and read through. Then this...... |
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Location: California | It was classic!! |
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Location: Texas | Originally posted by MusicMishka:
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Location: Stratford, Connecticut | Wow! $3500? I wonder if they got it? Geez!
That definitely was "our" guitar too! Same serial number! Crazy!
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MIA: GLEN CAMPBELL SHINY BOWL 12 STRING