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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 5563
Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Here is my 1977 1615-1 Pacemaker 12 that I bought on EBay for $100 as is...
I'm sending it to Mother in the next few days for a complete spa treatment: it needs it...
I can hardly wait to see the finished product!
\'77 Pacemaker 12 |
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Joined: May 2006 Posts: 4221
Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | COOL! I'm sure it will surpass all expectations. |
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Joined: December 2006 Posts: 6268
Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Pics like that just make my stomach tighten!
Looking forward to the rehab report... |
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Joined: March 2007 Posts: 698
Location: Cork, Ireland | Just looks like a finish crack to me |
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Joined: April 2008 Posts: 2985
Location: Sydney, Australia | Originally posted by sycamore:
Just looks like a finish crack to me Yeah, I bet he didn't even try to polish it out. |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 5563
Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Yeah, I bet he didn't even try to polish it out.
I did but I kept losing the rag...lol |
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Joined: November 2004 Posts: 382
Location: USA | please post the finished project |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127
Location: 6 String Ranch | a little Elmers............ |
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Joined: March 2007 Posts: 840
Location: CA | Ace Ventura to companion after having just crawled out of a Land Rover that's rolled about 5 times — "You should DETAIL this baby...." |
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Joined: March 2007 Posts: 698
Location: Cork, Ireland | I wonder what happened to it - was it a case of "Put away that f-ing guitar or I'll break it over your f-ing head!!" |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 5563
Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | The owner told me it was in the garage and got knocked over...It had no case; I sent a case to him to have it shipped back to me...but, who knows... |
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Joined: June 2006 Posts: 7307
Location: South of most, North of few | Originally posted by sycamore:
Just looks like a finish crack to me Do you write the copy for most of the Ebay ads? :D |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 5563
Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | On the way to visit Mother as we speak...
I will post finished pic's and details...
TJ, you crack me up...lol |
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Joined: October 2008 Posts: 639
Location: NW of Philadelphia | Originally posted by MusicMishka:
The owner told me it was in the garage and got knocked over... It had no case... What did he knock it over with... An SUV? |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 5563
Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Got the estimate and details today...it's gonna be killa!
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Joined: December 2006 Posts: 6268
Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Don't hold out on us Mike. Details man, details! Whatcha having done? |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 5563
Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Everything Johnny: New SB top/glass bowl/Original Electronic's check/RW Bridge/regloss neck and fix one ding on same/anything else it needs:
This is a '77 just like my original but w/SB top...'spensive but yummy! |
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Joined: December 2006 Posts: 6268
Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Awesome! Ummmm, do they do '47 'O' (as in Old) models up there? I could use some 'magic'. |
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Joined: September 2007 Posts: 108
| I had my pacemaker redone and it came back amazing, however the soundboard was redone with the "latest bracing" I find the sound different than the old fan bracing, not better, not worse, just different, probably more stable. I'm working on a new Pacemaker project and going to get A bracing installed, but thats a whole other post and a whole other story. |
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Joined: September 2006 Posts: 10777
Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Now you made me look...
My rebuilt Pacemaker has X bracing.
I would have to get a mirror to tell you if it is scalloped or not.
I gotta get me one of them dentist's mirrors. |
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Joined: November 2008 Posts: 1119
Location: Michigan | It looks great as is! Probably only shows up when the light hits it a certain way. :)
Kidding aside I did not think one could look worse than mine but....
Good luck and let us know how it comes out. |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 5563
Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | I was asking for A bracing...not sure if thats the best or not...any thoughts? |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15654
Location: SoCal | Mikey, as you probably know, I'm very partial to A bracing in both 6 and 12 strings. My 69 GC rebuilt has it as does a GC 12 owned by Temp and an old Pacemaker, owned by Jeff W and now by Toby. In my opinion, it yields a much better sound than the old fan bracing pattern original used.
But to be honest, I don't know what the new X bracing would sound like in at 12 fret 12 string. I don't know if it would sound better or worse, and I suspect that the only way to know would be to have 2 identical guitars built with the only difference being the bracing.
Anybody here wanna give that a shot? |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 5563
Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Thanls Paul, I did remember that but an not sure about the new bracing either...
I'm getting a glass bowl so that will certainly help the sound...just unsure about the bracing...is the new X bracing scalloped?
I should know this but can't remember...
Thanks for the help folks...I'm really getting excited about this re-build... |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15654
Location: SoCal | The new X is scalloped. I'm guessing that it ought to sound good. Maybe a little more open than the A braced 12 fretters, but comparison is the only way to know for certain.
Regardless, oughta sound great..... |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 5563
Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | I've left a message for John B.
I'll see what he thinks as well... |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 5563
Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | It's Here!
Unfortunatly I wasn't...dreaded "we tried to deliver" taped on the door...
Tried to chase down the brown...no joy!
Delivery tomorrow between 10 am and 2 pm...
Problem: it reached a high today of 14; tonight forecast for 2; windchills of -10/-15...
Tommorrow high of 18 (balmy. We've also had nearly 8 inches of partly cloudy...winter is finally here...
OMA, have no fear, that case will be setting for a while before it gets opened...
Anticipation............ |
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Joined: February 2009 Posts: 54
Location: Dayville, Connecticut | Can't wait to see the pictures...Gonna get mine done as well and I'ld like to see what the factory can do....enjoy! |
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Joined: June 2006 Posts: 7307
Location: South of most, North of few | OK Mike, let's have it. |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 5563
Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Still waitin TJ.... ;) |
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Joined: November 2006 Posts: 3969
| Originally posted by deadfish:
Can't wait to see the pictures...Gonna get mine done as well and I'ld like to see what the factory can do....enjoy! Rick - I just got back my 1619 from a Mothership spa treatment, pictures are here . They do incredible work, you'll be pleased.
Mike, we're waiting... |
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Joined: February 2009 Posts: 54
Location: Dayville, Connecticut | Originally posted by G8r:
[ [/qb] Rick - I just got back my 1619 from a Mothership spa treatment, [/QB]
Wow...That is perfection!...Thanks for the eye candy1
Rick |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 5563
Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | g8r wrote: Mike, we're waiting... update: Out for Delivery (again)
I'm ready this time... |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 5563
Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Brown delivered at 12:30 pm....
15 degrees outside...
Took box inside, and left it alone for 1 and a half hours.
2pm Opened top of box to let it breath...
2:30pm took case out of carton...
3:30 I can't take it anymore, I'm going for it!
Before:
After:
The Pacemaker is FINE, FINE, FINE....
What a great job Mother did...cloth bowl, gorgeous 'burst, upgraded electronic's, repaired dent in back of neck, more than expected....
And the sound: awesome: thats what kept me playing this model for over 10 years night after night...its a tummy rumbler. It plays and sounds as good as it gets...A bracing...excuse the drool...
Here is the album: 1977 1615-1 Pacemaker 12
I cannot say enough about the Mothership and the job they do...experts! Why would you go anywhere else? Many Thanks to John B. and Co.
Cheap?
Absolutely Not! (but still a value for excellence)
Did what the said they would?
Absolutely and more!
Value in restoring a totaled Vintage Ovation? Priceless! |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12750
Location: Boise, Idaho | Wow! There just aren't words sufficient to appreciate their artistry. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15654
Location: SoCal | New top & bowl? |
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Joined: November 2006 Posts: 3969
| Wonderful! They truly are wizards. Congrats! |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 5563
Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Here are a couple more:
Not bad for a $100 eBay find... |
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Joined: December 2006 Posts: 6268
Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Mike,
I really tickled fer ya! That is soooo sweet...
Nothin' like a booming Pacemaker!!! |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 5563
Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | New top & bowl?
Paul, yes, they replaced both: as you can see the original top was toast...what you didn’t see was the deep gashes in the side and underside of the original bowl...I told John to do what it needed...I did not have the neck completely redone...but they over sprayed and buffed out most of it (they did fix a deep dent in the back of the neck)...it keeps the vintage look and feel...they re-fretted and set up the guitar perfectly...it plays wonderfully! I'll take better pic's when spring comes and I can get outside...or maybe before if the ambient temp gets above freezing. I like it! |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15654
Location: SoCal | I have no idea how a dent in the neck is fixed, but the factory does indeed, do it. Amazing.
Whenever the top needs replacing, both the top and bowl are replaced.
Your guitar turned out very very well. My 69 GC 12 string got the same basic treatment. Beautiful guitar, great sound. Is my Adamas 12 string a better guitar? I don't know. Both 12's are great, just different.
Ice cream..... |
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Joined: September 2005 Posts: 3618
Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | DANG! ... I'm getting even MORE excited about getting mine done! |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15654
Location: SoCal | If you've ever thought about have the mothership refurbish an old guitar --- DO IT! The cost isn't that much and the experience is incredible. I've had two old guitars rebuilt and have had my expectations exceeded both times..... |
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Joined: October 2005 Posts: 5327
Location: Cicero, NY | I can't tell you what shape my 1537 was in when Woody shipped it (Woody can tho'!) there but I can tell you how perfect it is today. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Pre-Weazer 1537
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Location: Melbourne Australia | She is a stunning beauty :D |
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Joined: August 2005 Posts: 3736
Location: Sunshine State, Australia | I think I might send my Hondo in for a refurbish. |
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