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Fridave
Posted 2008-03-24 9:13 PM (#47934)
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Does the type of string (bronze, phos/bronze, nickle, etc.) have an effect on the amplified sound of an O, or any git. The saddle pickup just transfers the vibrations of the strings doesn't it ? Curious how much the metallic makeup has to do with plugged in sound/tone ? Any thoughts / info appreciated.
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G8r
Posted 2008-03-24 9:29 PM (#47935 - in reply to #47934)
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Originally posted by fridave:
The saddle pickup just transfers the vibrations of the strings doesn't it ? Curious how much the metallic makeup has to do with plugged in sound/tone ? Any thoughts / info appreciated.
Since THE authority on this subject (Temp) is probably boozin' it up with Cliff right now, I'll take a stab at it. You're right about the saddle just transferring vibrations to the peizos, which then discharge the electrical impulses. My guess is that the string composition wouldn't have any effect on this, especially since the nylon string guitars use the same pickups as the steel stringers. It's not like an electric guitar where you have induction generating the electrical output from the pups. On the other hand, electric git strings are much thinner than what you'd put on an acoustic, and probably wouldn't have the volume or sustain.

I'm sure I'll be roundly criticized (or should I say criticised?) if I'm wrong.
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PEZ
Posted 2008-03-24 9:29 PM (#47936 - in reply to #47934)
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Saw a guy using electric strings on a Balladeer
early 80s V&T stacked.
It sounded tinny thin horrable.
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Fridave
Posted 2008-03-24 9:52 PM (#47937 - in reply to #47934)
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I'm sure I'll be roundly criticized (or should I say criticised?) if I'm wrong.
g8r, at least you took a shot at it, and I'm kinda thinkin you're right. Maybe we'll both get criticised ! Hey please tell me Cliff doesn't drink (and play).
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2ifbyC
Posted 2008-03-24 9:52 PM (#47938 - in reply to #47934)
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Originally posted by g8r:
I'm sure I'll be roundly criticized (or should I say criticised?) if I'm wrong.
No criticism from here. But there is a difference twix strings and the harmonics each type produce. Plus the body style, depth and where you pick/strum the strings affect the tone and harmonics. Using the electronics will allow adjustment to the resulting waveforms. Then toss in the amp you're using and it's settings.

So the possibilities are nearly endless. Ergo the search for the individual 'holy grail'. This alone drives the guitar/strings/amp/etc. industry.

This topic can go on forever with no one answer. That's just my .

I'm sure others will be along to contribute to this interesting subject...
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Fridave
Posted 2008-03-24 10:28 PM (#47939 - in reply to #47934)
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The reason I ask is I had D'ad 12-53 bronze on my 1717, got it dialed in and sounding great on a bose pas, changed strings to check out Adamas 1818e phos/bronze, same settings on O and pas but I it seems to sound different. Maybe it's me. Maybe I need a (another) drink !
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G8r
Posted 2008-03-24 10:34 PM (#47940 - in reply to #47934)
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Interesting experiment. I've never noticed that, but then again I mostly play unplugged (or mic'ed for recording).

Don't drink & pick! The ears you fool are only your own (see the other recent thread on that subject).
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an4340
Posted 2008-03-24 11:14 PM (#47941 - in reply to #47934)
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yes. that's one of the reasons they make strings from different materials
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Jeff W.
Posted 2008-03-25 8:58 AM (#47942 - in reply to #47934)
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Absolutely. Strings do make a difference...

That's why a nylon string guitar sounds different than a steel string....
within same string types it's a matter of lesser degrees and gauge etc...
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cliff
Posted 2008-03-25 9:13 AM (#47943 - in reply to #47934)
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If you're changing-out strings that've been "broken-in" with BRAND new (esp. PhosBrnz.) they're gonna' sound VERY brite/brassy til they get "settled-in".
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2008-03-25 10:14 AM (#47944 - in reply to #47934)
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Any tonal difference between bronze and Phos bronze once they've settled-in is pretty subtle, amplified or not. The difference between bronze alloys and nickel is huge, amplified or not.
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cliff
Posted 2008-03-25 10:31 AM (#47945 - in reply to #47934)
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It's about time you got your drunk arse outta' bed!!!

Get off my computer and go feed th'fookin' cats . . .
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cliff
Posted 2008-03-25 10:36 AM (#47946 - in reply to #47934)
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. . . and iron my golf shirt.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2008-03-25 10:54 AM (#47947 - in reply to #47934)
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I'm hearing "Odd Couple" theme music...
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Weaser P
Posted 2008-03-25 10:59 AM (#47948 - in reply to #47934)
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Funny - I heard "Grumpy Old Men".
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Waskel
Posted 2008-03-25 11:00 AM (#47949 - in reply to #47934)
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"Odd Couple of Grumpy Old Men".
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Jeff W.
Posted 2008-03-25 11:01 AM (#47950 - in reply to #47934)
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either way... it's all a bit disturbing.
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stephent28
Posted 2008-03-25 11:07 AM (#47951 - in reply to #47934)
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What's disturbing is that we are all flying down to Florida to hang out with these two degenerates.
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G8r
Posted 2008-03-25 11:11 AM (#47952 - in reply to #47934)
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If they break out Taylors and start singing Viva Viagra I'm outta there!
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cliff
Posted 2008-03-25 11:18 AM (#47953 - in reply to #47934)
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They only thing that I'LL play on a Taylor involes a Porter-Cable cordless and a 3/4" auger bit . . .
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G8r
Posted 2008-03-25 11:22 AM (#47954 - in reply to #47934)
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:D :D :D
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2ifbyC
Posted 2008-03-25 11:33 AM (#47955 - in reply to #47934)
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Originally posted by cliff:
They only thing that I'LL play on a Taylor involes a Porter-Cable cordless and a 3/4" auger bit . . .
A Taylor with Adamas holes... BRILLIANT!
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cliff
Posted 2008-03-25 11:38 AM (#47956 - in reply to #47934)
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60 or 70 of 'em . . . but Adamas holes nonetheless . . .
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