OT: yellowstone...
lanaki
Posted 2009-01-06 11:14 AM (#434879)
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Yellowstone is rumbling

this is potentially very catastrophic and worthy of our attention.

"I am informing all State officials around Yellowstone National Park for a potential State of Emergency. In the last week over 252 earthquakes have been observed by the USGS. All of the pre warning signs for poisonous gasses to escape from underneath the parks lakes are present. - I want everyone to leave Yellowstone National Park for 100 miles around the volcano caldera because of the danger in poisonous gasses that can escape from the hundreds of recent earthquakes. These poisonous gasses that can escape from underneath the lake present even more of a potential problem because of the super volcano."
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2009-01-06 12:10 PM (#434880 - in reply to #434879)
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Hmm I don't get it. Nothing on any of the actual USGS sites... me thinks me been hoodwinked.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2009-01-06 12:17 PM (#434881 - in reply to #434879)
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I take that back...

http://www.seis.utah.edu/req2webdir/recenteqs/Maps/Yellowstone.html
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stonebobbo
Posted 2009-01-06 12:21 PM (#434882 - in reply to #434879)
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I've heard about this already. Chicken Little syndrome. When the swarms get active and start regularly going over magnitude 4, then we've got about 90 days to start working through contingency plans. This could happen fairly soon (relatively speaking) ... could even be within the next 10 million years or so.

Officially, the site is still green, not yellow as purported on the weblink.

Personally, I'm more concerned with the fallout from the forthcoming government announcement that there are indeed other forms of intelligent life and there are many aliens living among us.
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fillhixx
Posted 2009-01-06 12:24 PM (#434883 - in reply to #434879)
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Originally posted by stonebobbo:
Personally, I'm more concerned with the fallout from the forthcoming government announcement that there are indeed other forms of intelligent life and there are many aliens living among us.
Gosh, I certainly hope so! We could really use some good input.
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schroeder
Posted 2009-01-06 12:25 PM (#434884 - in reply to #434879)
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Tom Cruise is right!!!!!!!!!!!
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2009-01-06 12:28 PM (#434885 - in reply to #434879)
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Our newspaper had an article this morning saying they were nothing to get shook up about (clever, huh). They quoted a different geologist. The strongest so far hasn't caused any damage. We're 40,000 years overdue for a major eruption, about 8,000 times the size of Mt. St. Helens, so the end of the global warming concern might be right around the corner. Hope the prevailing winds keep prevailing.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2009-01-06 12:30 PM (#434886 - in reply to #434879)
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We consider Canadians to be aliens, but I'm not sure about the intelligent life part. The last one I met tried to walk through a screen door without opening it.
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-01-06 12:32 PM (#434887 - in reply to #434879)
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Originally posted by stonebobbo:
forthcoming government announcement that there are indeed other forms of intelligent life and there are many aliens living among us.
Day-um, that would blow my cover! Oh, wait, did you said intelligent life? Nevermind...

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Trader Jim
Posted 2009-01-06 12:36 PM (#434888 - in reply to #434879)
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Where's MIB :D
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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2009-01-06 12:56 PM (#434889 - in reply to #434879)
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They say if it blows, we here in the Black Hills will be vaporised instantly. So, relatively speaking, we have nothing to worry about. It's the rest of you who will suffer, being buried in ash, and then freezing and/or starving to death.

All joking aside, it has been getting a lot of coverage here. The last big blow was 70,000 years ago, and the last REALLY big one was 700,000 years ago. They say it could go any time now, or it could be many thousand years more. Either way, I'm not going to quit smoking soon.
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Tim in Yucaipa
Posted 2009-01-06 1:04 PM (#434890 - in reply to #434879)
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If Yellowstone blows, perhaps it will touch off Mt. Lassen, Mt. Shasta, Mt. St. Helens, Mt. Hood, and Mt. Ranier and nicely slice the west coast off from the continent.....
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2009-01-06 1:13 PM (#434891 - in reply to #434879)
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I was thinking about you, CS. We're probably about the same distance, but I'm to the west. I was kind of surprised that Randy started this thread, since what's going on in Yellowstone isn't nearly as threatening as what happens on the Big Island on a daily basis.
On the other hand, in a few thousand years the soil will be very good for growing potatoes again.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2009-01-06 1:24 PM (#434892 - in reply to #434879)
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I'm more concerned about Mount Baker, cause it's closer to me, and well... Actually it's "erupting" most of the time, but because it's not a popular vacation spot (outside of people who live here) there isn't much money available to monitor it.

What makes baker interesting is the Volcano is under the Glacier, so you can't actually see it most of the time, but the Glacier and Volcano would just be the Catalysts of a disaster that the flooding Skagit River would cause.

This Wiki seems innocent enough, but if you click some of the links you find the Dams on the Skagit provides 25% of Seattle power, and the Dams are holding back little buckets of water like Ross Lake which is 24 miles long, 1.5 miles wide and 540 feet deep. That's just one. There are several along the river and it's a forgone conclusion that if Baker burps, those Dams will no longer exist.

Hope it doesn't happen in my lifetime, but hey... Vancouver BC is a cool place to live if it does.

I find it interesting how dismissive people are about Earthquakes and Volcano activity. It's like they think the US has significantly more equipment or predictability than those places that have been devastated recently. The reality is some of those places were no longer even considered "active". The fact that there hasn't been more activity in places like Yellowstone, St, Helens, Baker and in Hawaii is a BIGGER mystery than "when will the next one be." Baker is about 100 years "overdue" now. Mount St Helens was just a large "burp" in the scheme of what it "should" have done.

Some things are just too big/bad to worry about.

As far as ETI, I sure hope they take pity and show themselves soon enough before we completely muck up the planet. Idiots fighting over land, beliefs, politics, oil and who knows what else when there is this big huge galaxy of really cool stuff out there.

One of my favorite movie lines was in the movie Crocodile Dundee. When asked about the fighting of the land ownership between I believe it was government and the aboriginal people, the response was "It seems silly, two people fighting over a rock that no one really owns."
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Waskel
Posted 2009-01-06 1:45 PM (#434893 - in reply to #434879)
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Originally posted by Mr. Ovation:
Some things are just too big/bad to worry about.
Exactly, Miles.

You can spend your life (if you can call it that) cringing in the dark waiting for the disaster that will end the world-as-we-know-it, or you can spend it living and being productive. Hide from everything else, and a meteorite will probably fall on your head.

As much as I enjoy a lot of the programming on the Science/Discovery/History channel, often it seems like it would be more appropriate to call them all the FearMongeringDisaster Channels.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2009-01-06 1:57 PM (#434894 - in reply to #434879)
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The accuracy of these prognosticators is amazing. I just read that Yellowstone erupted approximately every 600,000 years, and we were 40,000 years overdue, but CS read it was every 700,000 years. What good is an "average" if it's plus or minus 100,000 years?
I've got a brief to file by Thursday, could anyone tell me if Yellowstone will blow by then, so that I won't have to do it?
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Waskel
Posted 2009-01-06 2:00 PM (#434895 - in reply to #434879)
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No, but the 'big one' is due to hit SoCal any moment now...
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stephent28
Posted 2009-01-06 2:04 PM (#434896 - in reply to #434879)
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Originally posted by The Wabbit Formerly Known As Waskel:

seems like it would be more appropriate to call them all the FearMongeringDisaster Channels.
Ain't that the truth!
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2009-01-06 2:10 PM (#434897 - in reply to #434879)
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I've met a few people who moved from California to Idaho to get away from earthquakes. We just don't have as many buildings on the fault line.
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stephent28
Posted 2009-01-06 2:12 PM (#434898 - in reply to #434879)
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Not a big concern here either although there have been reports....
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Jeff W.
Posted 2009-01-06 2:32 PM (#434899 - in reply to #434879)
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musta eaten some of that same French Onion soup I had the other day...

I'd evacuate.
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Waskel
Posted 2009-01-06 2:34 PM (#434900 - in reply to #434879)
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Here in the Portland area we live in constant fear of the day the 1000 foot wave from the Pacific tsunami collides with the pyroclastic flow coming down the slopes of Mt Hood.

I figure they'll meet right around where I work.
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fillhixx
Posted 2009-01-06 3:41 PM (#434901 - in reply to #434879)
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As long as We All GO Together When We GO. I'd hate to be the last one at the party.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-01-06 3:50 PM (#434902 - in reply to #434879)
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It's those volcanoes that are "dormant" that are the problem... The one's that vent-off steam all the time are releasing any pressure build-up.

The folks that say 'the last time this volcano erupted there were dinosaurs here' are missing the point.

"Don't say it won't happen just because it hasn't happened yet!"
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2009-01-06 4:31 PM (#434903 - in reply to #434879)
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" The one's that vent-off steam all the time are releasing any pressure build-up."
- The day 'Ol Faithful stops living up to her name.... RUN!!!

" We just don't have as many buildings on the fault line."
- Anymore... :)

" I enjoy a lot of the programming on the Science/Discovery/History channel, often it seems like it would be more appropriate to call them all the FearMongeringDisaster Channels."
- Agreed

"The folks that say 'the last time this volcano erupted there were dinosaurs here' are missing the point."
- And also have very short memories.
Cascade Volcanoes Quite a few had activity in 1800's and 1900's, not to mention 2008!!!

Hawaii... ongoing

The Philippines June 1991 produced the second largest terrestrial eruption of the 20th century.

Fun Facts - This is a pretty cool page.. I like the graph/timeline.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-01-06 4:40 PM (#434904 - in reply to #434879)
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Yeah Miles... The saying goes about NW folks "Can point to six-or-seven volcanoes, even when it is too cloudy to see the mountains."

While talking about that stuff with my Mom, I remind her that she lives 126 miles from the New Madrid Fault. Which, according to Mark Twain, caused the Mississippi River to flow backward during one of its little adjustments.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2009-01-06 5:38 PM (#434905 - in reply to #434879)
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Mark Twain huh? The "Never let the facts get in the way of a good story" Mark Twain?? LOL!!
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FlySig
Posted 2009-01-06 11:05 PM (#434906 - in reply to #434879)
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Six or seven years ago I scraped a knuckle while sawing branches off of a tree. Nearly a week later the knuckle went from having a normal scab to having such a deep infection that in a couple of hours it hurt like hell and red lines were running from the back of my hand up to my elbow. It went downhill from there.

It took I-V antibiotics to keep me alive.

Two summers ago my 75 yr old father, my 10 yr old son, and I went for a last quick swim in the ocean before lunch. A rip tide pulled us well out into deep water. All three of us somehow cheated the Grim Reaper that morning.

There was the time I hit black ice while riding a bicycle and slid on my back into the middle of a very busy intersection during rush hour.

There have been a number of other close calls, like the blizzard that came up over the ridgeline in the Himalayas at 18,000 ft while I was alone trying to bag a peak. Or the engine failure during a microburst windshear while on approach at a one-way mountain airport.

Worrying about a volcano or earthquake killing me at some unknown future date seems rather silly when the world is full of known dangers. Whatever gets us is not likely to be what we worry about, it will surprise us.
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stephent28
Posted 2009-01-06 11:19 PM (#434907 - in reply to #434879)
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Flysig, remind me never to vacation with you! ;)
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FlySig
Posted 2009-01-07 9:28 AM (#434908 - in reply to #434879)
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There's nothing to worry about, because I'm the luckiest man alive. Death hasn't caught me yet.

Besides, such experiences make for good song inspiration.
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