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Joined: October 2008 Posts: 489
| 155 down - 155 alive! Nice work, Sully! |
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Joined: October 2005 Posts: 5327
Location: Cicero, NY | Brilliant move by the pilot. He deserves a ton of credit for his cool not only going down but after hitting the water as well. A lot of people owe him big time. |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 2791
Location: Atlanta, GA. | Pretty amazing!!! |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | Guy took a Worst Case Scenario & turned it into a Best Possible Outcome.
A lot's gotta' be said for the ferryboat captains & the first-responders as well.
Say what you will about rude, obnoxious NewYorkers.
Whenever the "Shit Goes Down", all that pent-up hostility gets funneled into "the balls" t'get th'Job Done.
The pilot put that thing down into the Hudson right in front of the newly-restored USS Intrepid.
He deserves at LEAST a plaque at the bow for that. |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127
Location: 6 String Ranch | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127
Location: 6 String Ranch | well I guess that didn't work so well. |
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Joined: September 2006 Posts: 10777
Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Everybody did a great job!
It is so Great when all that training works out.
The ferry-boat dude said that they practice water rescues every coupla weeks...
No panic amongst the crewmen, "we did it just like we practiced" and rescued fifty people.
Made the best of a bad situation! |
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Joined: November 2006 Posts: 3969
| And despite his heroism & incredible skill the pilot will simply say, "I'm just doing my job." Hats off to someone with brass ones and ice in his veins. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | One of the passengers they interviewed yesterday was an ivestment banker named "Carl" from Amelia Island
. . . know 'im, Beal?? . . . |
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Joined: May 2006 Posts: 4221
Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | As soon as I got home last night, I told my wife that not everyone can appreciate the skill of that landing, especially with an aircraft that size. That was PEERLESS piloting...with the apparent assistance of about 155 guardian Angels!
He deserves every accolade he's getting and then some. Add to that the professionalism he displayed during the event and the class of being DOUBLY certain to be the last person off, and you got yourself a rare fella there.
Fine, FINE job Captain Sully! |
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Joined: October 2005 Posts: 4026
Location: Utah | As a Captain myself, I'll say that Sully did good. But the ones that get the real credit are the flight attendants.
I know that they can be bitchy about turning off your cell phone and getting that bag under the seat in front of you instead of by your feet. But they go through a lot of training on evacuating aircraft and dealing with things like fires and hijackers.
At our airline we train for overwater ops and water landings. The procedure for us takes about 15 minutes of checklists and preparation during descent from cruise altitude to touchdown. Thus, the flight attendants have about 15 minutes to prep the cabin. They can move able bodied passengers to the exit seats. They make sure everyone has their life preserver on. They make sure all the crap in the cabin is secured so nobody gets hurt by a flying laptop in the sudden stop. etc etc.
But in this case the flight attendants had essentially no notice. The most they had was a quick announcement from the cockpit.
I am impressed that the FAs were able to evac the aircraft under those conditions and not lose a single passenger. |
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Joined: June 2006 Posts: 7307
Location: South of most, North of few | I didn't know they made Grumman Mallards that big! I could see landing a sea plane on the water, but not an Airbus. Great job! |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | They were just interviewing a flight attendant on NPR who just reiterated everything that Sig said.
The FAA doesn't give a sh!t about their coffee demeanor, their basic & foremost function is that of safety officers.
And evidently Airbus'es have a "ditch button" in the cockpit that'll automatically seal everything below the waterline.
Not a bad feature t'have . . . |
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Joined: December 2006 Posts: 6268
Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Originally posted by cliff:
"ditch button" I was wondering how that puppy kept floating for so long. Yes, nice feature.
That had to be an awesome touchdown without fracturing any major sheet metal.
Outstanding landing and rescue! |
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13984
Location: Upper Left USA | It's one thing to honor someone, a hero, for being in the right place at the right time - but I can really appreciate the ones that did just what they were supposed to at the time they needed to!
Which, by the way, was not flying - it was falling with a great deal of finess and skill! No engines means all you can do is aim, angle and pray!
How many hours of training, retraining, memos, bulletins and briefing sessions do you think they went through because they wanted to do the right thing when the time came? To me those are the real heroes!
And a +154 to the crew and passengers that did the right thing, letting the slow and weak go out the door first while you are 10 feet from an open door, NOT opening the rear door while you wait an eternity to exit and basically putting others ahead of yourself.
Did you hear anyone bitch'in because their Ferry was late that day? I don't think so!
So... if you are one of those that is signed up for a CPR or First Aid class, scheduled to attend an Emergency Planning meeting, going to drill twice a week or otherwise preparing for something that may never happen... you are a hero! |
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Joined: September 2006 Posts: 10777
Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | As far as I heard, the sucker is still floating.
They are just gonna tow it somewhere and check it out.
Y'know, do the black box stuff. (and get the soggy luggage out)
Then dry it off and fly it home? |
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Joined: June 2007 Posts: 3084
Location: Brisbane Australia | That was an amazing outcome!
Outstanding skill and courage by the pilot.
All aircraft glide, but heavies like that like a well trimmed brick!!
Well done Captain!! |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | It's tied to a pier down at BatteryParkCity.
They're awaiting the delivery of a HUGE crane and a barge & are going to attempt to hoist it out (in one piece)
- which'll be yet another engineering feat.
You also have to take into consideration that the Hudson is a TIDAL river, so it's direction of flow (at that end of it) changes over the course of the day. At the time of the ditching, the river is flowing out into NY harbour, so these guys're evacuating people off a plane that's not only slowly sinking . . but is drifting . . . and the Hudson CAN flow at a pretty good clip in that particular area.
I ride those ferries quite often, and when the river is choked with ice, the hull can sound like it's being hit with frozen cows . . . |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039
Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | As Cliff said, "Worst possible situation, Best possible outcome"
In these situations there are so many opportunities for probable errors- setting off a chain reaction of increasing failure, It's staggering. That it was limited as it was, is a credit to all crew,passengers, responders etc....
Kudos. |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12750
Location: Boise, Idaho | Ditto to all of the above, except the frozen cows part. I'm betting Cliff has never seen one, much less hit one. I've seen a few, but never hit one. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | frozen cows - seen 'em.
Helped a friend haul a couple away with a tractor. |
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Joined: February 2005 Posts: 11840
Location: closely held secret | That landing was an amazing feat of skill, nerve, selflessness and dedication... and a true miracle. Captain Sully deserves all the praise we can give him.
Originally posted by cliff:
I ride those ferries quite often, and when the river is choked with ice, the hull can sound like it's being hit with frozen cows . . . ...and we can't wait to hear the story of why you know what that sounds like... |
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Joined: October 2005 Posts: 4026
Location: Utah | Those aren't frozen cows. This is, after all, the Hudson river. Didn't you ever watch The Sopranos? |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039
Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | WiseBergs . . . |
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13984
Location: Upper Left USA | Chipped Beef anyone? |
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Joined: November 2004 Posts: 4413
| :D :D :D Brilliant, Mr W.
It was an amazing performance by everyone - including the plane.
cliff - if you didn't hear Bloomberg today, he paid full tribute to the Jersey input. He was very good. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | btw;
They just mentioned that both engines from the plane are missing.
That didn't take long.
. . . y'GOTTA Love New York! |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039
Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Check that ChopShop under the WestSide Hwy.... |
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Joined: September 2006 Posts: 10777
Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Originally posted by cliff:
They just mentioned that both engines from the plane are missing.
That didn't take long.
. . . y'GOTTA Love New York! Wheels gone too? |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842
Location: NJ | gonna' make a BITCHin' Escalade . . . |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039
Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Zero to Aquatic in under 6 seconds. . . |
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Joined: March 2007 Posts: 840
Location: CA | I believe the engines are built to shear off in the event of a 'hard' landing on water or land.
Hell of a job. It's amazing to me that 30-40 years of training comes down to a few split-second CORRECT decisions that allow that plane to come down intact.
BTW, later photos show that the plane finally did sink next to the pier. |
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13984
Location: Upper Left USA | So... what are we going to do about the terroriz'n Canadian undocumented immigrants that took down the plane in the first place?
Bobby Flay should toss out some possible recipes for Goose!
Maybe a little "Sully's Surprise"! |
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