This is what us Aussies are up against.
muzza
Posted 2009-02-04 5:07 AM (#429629)
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Flackster pointed out this to us on the 'Downunder' group. Probably the reason why there are only 4 regular Aussie OFC members - nobody can afford 'em.

Cheap Balladeer on Aussie eBay.

The guy's dreamin'.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-02-04 5:25 AM (#429630 - in reply to #429629)
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Well, it cost about $350 in 1974 when he bought it...
Adjusted for 35 years of inflation... That's about right. :p
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bauerhillboy
Posted 2009-02-04 5:26 AM (#429631 - in reply to #429629)
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In US dollars, how much does it typically cost to get a guitar shipped from the states to you?
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TAFKAR
Posted 2009-02-04 6:05 AM (#429632 - in reply to #429629)
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It varies, but I think $500 is not out of the question. AJ will know for sure, as he has done this a number of times.
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flackster
Posted 2009-02-04 6:13 AM (#429633 - in reply to #429629)
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Which you would consider doing when the AU$1.00 = US$0.96 but now it is US$0.64 :(
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TAFKAR
Posted 2009-02-04 6:16 AM (#429634 - in reply to #429629)
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:( :mad: :( :mad: :(
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flackster
Posted 2009-02-04 6:22 AM (#429635 - in reply to #429629)
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Originally posted by TAFKAR:
:( :mad: :( :mad: :(
+1
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muzza
Posted 2009-02-04 6:27 AM (#429636 - in reply to #429629)
Subject: Re: This is what us Aussies are up against.



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I bought both of mine on US eBay. Cost about 500 to ship them over, can't remember exactly. I bought them in '05 when $1AUD was about $0.75USD.

Still cheaper than buying a US Ovation here... if you can find one.
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Trader Jim
Posted 2009-02-04 6:32 AM (#429637 - in reply to #429629)
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Anybody want to bet he doesn't get any bids?
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flackster
Posted 2009-02-04 6:34 AM (#429638 - in reply to #429629)
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Just leading up to getting my 07 Collectors (thanks again Muzz) I was looking seriously at it. In November I received the following:

Hi Chris,
USPS Express to Australia is $109. Hope that works for you.
Thanks, Charlie


- backstageguitargallery
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flackster
Posted 2009-02-04 6:36 AM (#429639 - in reply to #429629)
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Originally posted by Trader Jim:
Anybody want to bet he doesn't get any bids?
Like the Fender Strat on sale on ebay oz twice last year for $599,999 :)
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muzza
Posted 2009-02-04 6:50 AM (#429640 - in reply to #429629)
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Originally posted by flackster:
Hi Chris,
USPS Express to Australia is $109. Hope that works for you.
Thanks, Charlie
Flackster, he either didn't know what he was talking about, he was bluffing, or he knew a 'flexible' post office employee.

An Ovation box exceeds USPS maximum dimensions (to Australia) - unless Australia Post has since relaxed its absurd limitations.
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TAFKAR
Posted 2009-02-04 7:27 AM (#429641 - in reply to #429629)
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And USPS parcels often don't arrive :mad:
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muzza
Posted 2009-02-04 8:12 AM (#429642 - in reply to #429629)
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Richard, check your 'ning' messages.
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Darkbar
Posted 2009-02-04 8:13 AM (#429643 - in reply to #429629)
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Well, Maton makes an excellent guitar at a good price. If I lived down under I would have a slew of them.
I know someone who goes to Oz every year....maybe something could be arranged regarding bringing an Ovation with them.
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muzza
Posted 2009-02-04 8:18 AM (#429644 - in reply to #429629)
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Originally posted by darkbarguitar:
Well, Maton makes an excellent guitar at a good price. If I lived down under I would have a slew of them.
Have you ever played one?

I hate 'em. They sound really 'thin'. They have no bottom end. I've only ever heard/played 2 that I'd consider owning. I can't believe how many Aussies rave about them.
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Darkbar
Posted 2009-02-04 8:29 AM (#429645 - in reply to #429629)
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Yeah, we used to have a small boutique shop here that sold them. That's how I found out about them. This shop sold Taylors, Breedlove, Bourgeois, a few others and....Matons. I really liked them, having never heard of them before.
(plus Tommy Emanuel plays them)
Then again, I don't really care for Martins, so it must just be an ear thing. Enjoy summer.
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Joe Rotax
Posted 2009-02-04 8:36 AM (#429646 - in reply to #429629)
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Originally posted by muzza:
Flackster pointed out this to us on the 'Downunder' group. Probably the reason why there are only 4 regular Aussie OFC members - nobody can afford 'em.

Cheap Balladeer on Aussie eBay.

The guy's dreamin'.
Would that even be worth $350 here ?
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AussieJames
Posted 2009-02-04 8:40 AM (#429647 - in reply to #429629)
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"The guy's dreamin'"

And then some!! :rolleyes:

AJ
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AussieJames
Posted 2009-02-04 8:44 AM (#429648 - in reply to #429629)
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Originally posted by muzza:
Originally posted by darkbarguitar:
Well, Maton makes an excellent guitar at a good price. If I lived down under I would have a slew of them.
Have you ever played one?

I hate 'em. They sound really 'thin'. They have no bottom end. I've only ever heard/played 2 that I'd consider owning. I can't believe how many Aussies rave about them.
Because they can't afford or never played a real (US) Ovation

AJ
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guitarwannabee
Posted 2009-02-04 9:18 AM (#429649 - in reply to #429629)
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if I were you guys over there i would be looking out for this instead of expensive O's :eek: GWB

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090204/ap_on_re_au_an/as_australia_flo...
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Slipkid
Posted 2009-02-04 9:55 AM (#429650 - in reply to #429629)
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Concidering UPS, Fed-Ex, DHL, and all the other carriers in business, $500 is outrageous.
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alpep
Posted 2009-02-04 9:59 AM (#429651 - in reply to #429629)
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brad did you ever try to ship a guitar to australia?

it is not cheap nor easy
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-02-04 10:13 AM (#429652 - in reply to #429629)
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Originally posted by alpep:
did you ever try to ship a guitar to australia?
Al,

Did you ever get that Aussie 'package' shipping deal worked out?
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lanaki
Posted 2009-02-04 10:20 AM (#429653 - in reply to #429629)
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btw, DHL went out of business in the US a few months ago.
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lanaki
Posted 2009-02-04 10:25 AM (#429654 - in reply to #429629)
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i shipped an EA-68 viper in its case to AJ not too long ago. i cannot recall the exact price but it was just under or over $100 wasn't it, AJ?
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-02-04 10:29 AM (#429655 - in reply to #429629)
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Originally posted by lanaki:
btw, DHL went out of business in the US a few months ago.
I drove by the local DHL yesterday and they were still operating. I would imagine they're satisfying some past contracts.
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Slipkid
Posted 2009-02-04 10:35 AM (#429656 - in reply to #429629)
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DHL closed their U.S. ground truck business. The international concerns are still up & running.
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Losov
Posted 2009-02-04 12:28 PM (#429657 - in reply to #429629)
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Yeah, but we get clobbered stateside when we order didgeridoos.
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alpep
Posted 2009-02-04 12:51 PM (#429658 - in reply to #429629)
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Originally posted by 2ifbyC:
Originally posted by alpep:
did you ever try to ship a guitar to australia?
Al,

Did you ever get that Aussie 'package' shipping deal worked out?
not enough interest
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muzza
Posted 2009-02-04 5:46 PM (#429659 - in reply to #429629)
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Originally posted by lanaki:
i shipped an EA-68 viper in its case to AJ not too long ago. i cannot recall the exact price but it was just under or over $100 wasn't it, AJ?
That box would've been well within the size limits. The big money goes on shipping an Ovation acoustic.
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muzza
Posted 2009-02-04 5:49 PM (#429660 - in reply to #429629)
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Originally posted by alpep:
not enough interest
Unfortunately the Australian Dollar ain't worth diddly-squat at the moment and everyone's sitting firmly on their wallets.
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TAFKAR
Posted 2009-02-04 7:19 PM (#429661 - in reply to #429629)
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Wallets full of worthless pacific pesos.
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AussieJames
Posted 2009-02-04 8:39 PM (#429662 - in reply to #429629)
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I'm sure glad I bought most of mine when I did.

I have never shipped an acoustic but they are well over the USPS size limits.

The Kaman GTX 36 Les Paul copy I just bought cost $120.

Al's idea is good.
The only problem is that the shipment will be assessed for duty and taxes as a whole not individually.

AJ
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lanaki
Posted 2009-02-04 8:53 PM (#429663 - in reply to #429629)
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AJ, do you mean acoustics are over the aussie postal system size limits?
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AussieJames
Posted 2009-02-04 9:19 PM (#429664 - in reply to #429629)
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Randy, no US.

USPS limit is max 46" long, total 108" length plus girth.
A deep bowl case without a box will probably scrape in. In a carton, no way.
And if you use their calculator a package 46" x 18" x 9" is now $428 ($650 AUD)
And something new, a max value of $2499.

AJ
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lanaki
Posted 2009-02-04 9:26 PM (#429665 - in reply to #429629)
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after i posted i checked the USPS site and found the same info. thanks. unbelievable crapola!
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AussieJames
Posted 2009-02-04 9:36 PM (#429666 - in reply to #429629)
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Mate, I think we were a bit lucky with the Viper!!

I still have 6 guitars in the US two of which I am bringing home from Amelia.

The others are electrics so won't be as bad.

I don't think I will be buying too many more over there

AJ
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flackster
Posted 2009-02-04 10:52 PM (#429667 - in reply to #429629)
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Look on the bright side - we could be living in NZ :rolleyes:
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lanaki
Posted 2009-02-04 11:19 PM (#429668 - in reply to #429629)
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many folks in the US think NZ is the place to be. in fact, i have friends relocating there from here in a couple weeks. their daughter became employed there so that offers them opportunity to live there also. they've sold about all their possessions. i might like to herd sheep there too.


NOT.
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flackster
Posted 2009-02-04 11:29 PM (#429669 - in reply to #429629)
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We have a high proportion of the NZ population living here in Oz as they can't get work over there and the younger ones enjoy the bigger cites, lifestyle and warmer climate.

A good mate of mine has lived here for over 30 years and swears he would never go back. His wife even refuses to go there on holidays :)
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muzza
Posted 2009-02-05 12:13 AM (#429670 - in reply to #429629)
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Originally posted by AussieJames:
Randy, no US.

USPS limit is max 46" long, total 108" length plus girth.
Not quite right Jim. It is Australia Post that imposes the size limit. USPS will ship an Ovation box to any other western nation for a reasonable fee. USPS won't ship it to Australia because Australia Post won't accept it. The official reason they gave me is "We're not a freight company"

However... (get this) ...If you get an Ovation shipped here by UPS after paying their extortionate fees, guess who actually delivers it to your door?
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ozwatto
Posted 2009-02-05 12:50 AM (#429671 - in reply to #429629)
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Probably me... :D

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TAFKAR
Posted 2009-02-05 1:16 AM (#429672 - in reply to #429629)
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Aaahhh! Our dedicated posties, checking every item before they deliver it, just to make sure it gets there in tip top shape.

Oz, where's my keyboard that Captain Lovehandles sent me?
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ozwatto
Posted 2009-02-05 3:14 AM (#429673 - in reply to #429629)
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I only deliver stringed instruments Richard..keyboards are somebody else's department. :)
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muzza
Posted 2009-02-05 3:23 AM (#429674 - in reply to #429629)
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I hope that letter box isn't a result of our visit??
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AussieJames
Posted 2009-02-05 4:57 AM (#429675 - in reply to #429629)
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Originally posted by muzza:
Originally posted by AussieJames:
Randy, no US.

USPS limit is max 46" long, total 108" length plus girth.
Not quite right Jim. It is Australia Post that imposes the size limit. USPS will ship an Ovation box to any other western nation for a reasonable fee. USPS won't ship it to Australia because Australia Post won't accept it. The official reason they gave me is "We're not a freight company"


However... (get this) ...If you get an Ovation shipped here by UPS after paying their extortionate fees, guess who actually delivers it to your door?
Muz, you may be right, however if you put any country ie Canada, UK, New Zealand into their online calculator the same measurement limits seem to apply.
:rolleyes:

AJ
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flackster
Posted 2009-02-05 5:13 AM (#429676 - in reply to #429629)
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These were some of the quotes I got back last Oct/Nov:

Dear laser_msc,
about $90 insured. Thanks
- musicdungeon

Hi Chris,
USPS Express to Australia is $109. Hope that works for you.
Thanks, Charlie
- backstageguitargallery

Hi Chris,
I would love to ship it to you but shipping to Australia is very expensive due to postal restrictions. Shipping would be 400.00. You can check at usps.com.
Thanks for your interest
- mrg2

:confused:
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fillhixx
Posted 2009-02-05 11:47 AM (#429677 - in reply to #429629)
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Originally posted by AussieJames:
I don't think I will be buying too many more over there
On the up side, the OZ trade balance should go into surplus! ;)
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ozwatto
Posted 2009-02-05 3:28 PM (#429678 - in reply to #429629)
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Originally posted by muzza:
I hope that letter box isn't a result of our visit??
You know what it's like Muz....the plumber's house always has a dripping tap...the postman's house has a busted letterbox :D
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