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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Had a call for a set list that needed to go back and forth between clean acoutic and some more gritty electric. Space is limited and very little time to switch guitars. This is where the VXT really shines. I don't know if any of the other hybrids now on the market do the same thing, but the VXT absolutely shines in this area. Its electric capabilities are top notch, and you can pull off the acoustic stuff. I find I'm using the VXT increasingly more often in a live setting. For what it does, and considering its excellent workmanship in construction, its a helluva bargain. |
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Location: Orange County, California | It can be accomplished with other "hybrids", but it's hard to beat just rotating that knob, and playing through isn't?
What did you use for amps? |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | The DuoTone does it with a 3 way switch. One way is acoustic and the other is electric. In the middle position it plays out of both amps and the center knob lets you blend it a little bit, but I couldn't totally shut off the acoustic or electric by moving the knob all the way to one side or the other--just flip the switch to do that. But you do need 2 cables, one to each amp. |
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Location: Midland, MI | I'd consider buying a VXT if Al could get me that prototype with the tortoise binding and Bartolini-looking pickups. ;)
(Disclaimer: for a really good price) |
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Location: south east Michigan | (hey ya cruster!... good to hear from you!) |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Originally posted by mtnbikerfred:
What did you use for amps? Mono from the guitar to my standard acoustic pedal board . . . For acoustic, customized settings on the Zoom, no compression; for the electric, bypassed the Zoom but cranked up the grit on the Keeley Blues pedal to about 1/2; 1/4" out from the pedal board to the ADD Cub as a personal monitor, XLR out from the pedal board to the house sound system. |
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Location: Indiana | Personally I would have preferred a further evolution of the EA-68. Keeping the acoustic bridge... adding electric PUP's, blendable with the OPP.
Solid bearclaw top (the holes on a Viper are unnecessary) solid inlaid Epi's. Bling abalone binding, a one piece natural finish mahogany body, 5 piece neck, with ebony headstock overlay and ebony fretboard.
Haven't given it much thought though. |
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| How would you normally hook this up. I am wondering if it has dual output jacks? If not; how do I run the Acoustic pickup to my Acoustic Amp and the Electric pickups to my Electric amp when on stage? Or am I missing something? |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Randy,
On the VXT you will receive tomorrow you need to used the Stereo jack which splits two 1/4" jacks out so you can go in two separate paths.
On the Hamer you can run a standard lead out to the amp for the Mag Pups only or use the asme stereo chord as the Vxt and split two separate outputs. There is no volume control on the Hamer but a foot pedal works great.
I think I packed a Stereo cable for you, if not let me know. |
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| The VXT is about the only guitar that's caught my interest in the last 25 years because I kinda play a mix of acoustic and electric styles.
It's a nice clean design and I don't like fancy-assed guitars much so I'm kinda drawn to the plain jane P-90 version but I'm wonderin if the 59s would sound better and, at the end of the day, sound is all that matters so sometimes you have to go with the high end stuff even though it's too shiny. |
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by Jonmark Stone:
Personally I would have preferred a further evolution of the EA-68. Keeping the acoustic bridge... adding electric PUP's, blendable with the OPP...
Haven't given it much thought though. I also wanted to see an evolution of the EA68. I just have not been able to warm up to the VXT.
I picked up an EA68 with the intention of turning it into a hybrid, but I misplaced the guitar :confused: ... maybe Fred can help me find it :cool: |
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| Interesting Mike, I hope I can find this VXT the guitar I hope it to be, I don't mind a project but I am just not set up for finishing either. It sure sounds like something that would be great to have around for those odd songs that need electric and acoustic parts. Curious; do you still have the original knobs for this one? |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | JMHO
If you are PRIMARILY an electric/solid body player who sometimes needs a clean, acoustic-like sound, then the VXT is your guitar.
If you are PRIMARILY an Acoustic player, who sometimes like a little crunch.. it may not be the guitar for you.
Forget what the white-paper and marketing says... It's a killer 2-humbucker solid-body electric (ok chambered) that also has an amazing "clean" (almost acoustic) sound via the Fishman Power Bridge. To add to it's flexibility, there is circuitry that allows you to smoothly mix the humbuckers and the bridge pickup any way you want.
The EA-68's goal, is an Acoustic sound. Sure you can crunch it up a bit, but clean acoustic is what it does best.
The Duotone, is a cool guitar as well. Again, I think it shines more in the Clean and "Acoustic" sound department. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Knobs for the VXT?
I think I still have them. What do they look like?
:rolleyes: I'll send them out with the "Y" Cable I'm sure I forgot to pack. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | BTW - With Duncan 59's the VXT is an excellant guitar even without the Piezo addition. |
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Location: Indiana | Originally posted by Mr. Ovation:
If you are PRIMARILY an Acoustic player, who sometimes like a little crunch.. it may not be the guitar for you. I agree, I fit that description.
The EA-68's goal, is an Acoustic sound. Sure you can crunch it up a bit, but clean acoustic is what it does best. To a point, I agree. That's why the acoustic bridge is important to me. But, the string through body setup gives the Viper a distinctly "electric" sustain. Very different from a peizo on a box or a bowl. I makes a very cool complement playing fill with other plugged in acoustic players.
Complimentary, but very different.
Especially if you bump them in the 300 to 400hz range. A very sweet spot you can't get to with the onboard preamp, unfortunately.
My vision in the guitar I described above was to have a warm electric PUP in the neck position to throw some 335ish vibes into the Viper mix.
I think a mag PUP in the chambered body could be very cool.
I'm also aware I have abnormal musical tendencies. |
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Location: Brisbane Australia | Sounds like I better repo mine from DVD ;)
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Location: Boston | To me the most important thing about a guitar is the feel. And the VXT neck feels like an Ovation acoustic. I find players who are primarily acoustic guitarists like the VXT more then electric guitarists. I belive this is because of the neck.
It is a hell of a good electric guitar with state of the art electronics and hardware. But I don't think most lead/electric players wil be comfortable with it as their main axe. |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Originally posted by Mr. Ovation:
JMHO If you are PRIMARILY an electric/solid body player who sometimes needs a clean, acoustic-like sound, then the VXT is your guitar. If you are PRIMARILY an Acoustic player, who sometimes like a little crunch.. it may not be the guitar for you. Forget what the white-paper and marketing says... It's a killer 2-humbucker solid-body electric (ok chambered) that also has an amazing "clean" (almost acoustic) sound via the Fishman Power Bridge.
The EA-68's goal, is an Acoustic sound. Sure you can crunch it up a bit, but clean acoustic is what it does best. Very well said, Miles. I have both, and this is precisely how I use them. Just on the side, the EA68 feeds back slightly whereas the VXT is absolutely quiet, all other things being equal at the same volume. When I only need a clean acoustic sound for the entire set, I'll use either the Adamas 1881 SSB or the Tak EF75. I remain fond of the EA68 Vipers, but the VXT seems to get the call more often these days. |
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Location: Central Massachusetts | AussieJames, your PM box is full! |
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Location: Florida | MWOODY,
Do you have volume and tone knobs for a Viper III
you'd be willing to part with?
Huh Huh Huh?
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Location: Upper Left USA | Only worn out ones.
The little ones are just fine. Of course that VIII and VII are beggin for a Cherry Wood PG... |
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Location: Florida | MWoody,
You must have cornered the Cherry Wood market.
If interested I'll be posting some pictures of my Ovation Elite 2000 Ltd. Ed. Burled Walnut shortly.
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Location: Phoenix | I used the VXT for a 5 hour gig last night. This was outdoors, so I had my full PA to work with, rather than a typical small venue's POS.
I use a patch insert cable (TRS) to split the signal. The electric went into a Yamaha Magicstomp then into a Peavey Classic 50 (tube amp w/ 2-12's). The acoustic side went into a DI box (just to get an XLR connection) then to the PA.
The electric ROCKED. And the acoustic sounded great too, almost as good as the 1868 would've but without any feedback.
IMHO the acoustic sound of the VXT depends on the quality of the PA (or acoustic amp). The better the PA, the more like an acoustic it sounds. But plug the acoustic side into a regular electric guitar amp, it loses most of its acoustic sound. |
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Location: Wooster, Ohio | I looked at a lot of hybrids and a Godin Flat Five X used very cheap. It is a similar concept hollow body, double humbuckers that are splitable. Baggs acoustic T bridge. Separate lines out for electric and acoustic. I do to separate processor. Cool guitar extremely playable.
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