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Location: Madison, Wis | Is there an advantage to playing with coated strings. I have never tried them, and was curious. Are they easier on your fingers, sound better, or really nothing to them? Any opinions? |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Non coated strings will eventually go dead. You don't have this problem with coated ones because they are dead right from the get-go. |
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Location: Simpsonville, SC | Toby may be on to sumthin! |
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Location: Vernon CT | Everyone is entitled to their opinion,but, I along with many other members find most coated strings last longer (3-5 times) and have a great tone! Well worth the additional cost to me.
My preference are Elixirs. Try 2 or 3 different brands and make up your own mind. Thats the best way to decide what you will like. |
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | Bob, that LX I bought from you had low action, but those Elixers seemed so stiff that not only I, but the others who tried it said it seemed hard on the fingers. As soon as I changed to Martin strings, it sounded better, and was MUCH easier to play. I never liked coated strings because of the sound, but now that I've seen how stiff they are, I like them even less. Sorry. |
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Location: PDX | They have a longer life and greatly reduce "string squeak". I still hate 'em.
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Location: Indiana | Originally posted by Gallerinski:
Non coated strings will eventually go dead. You don't have this problem with coated ones because they are dead right from the get-go. Go ahead and mock. I'm used to enduring scorn.
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Location: big island | i don't like all brands of coated strings but i love my elixir nanos. clear, crisp, warm, taste great, less filling, and last a long time. |
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Location: Utah | Cleartone coated strings sound 98% as good as uncoated on my 6778LX. So for the cost savings, it is about even for dollars but less string changing. But I still use uncoated for that extra 2% of tone.
On a semi-hollow electric with classic PAF pickups, I really like the elixir nano coated strings. Less friction and no finger squeak. The sound great on the semi-hollow. I haven't yet tried them on a solid body electric with modern pickups. |
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Location: Michigan | Originally posted by Gallerinski:
Non coated strings will eventually go dead. You don't have this problem with coated ones because they are dead right from the get-go. You makes me smile :) |
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | Flysig, I use D'Adario Chromes on my Hamer.They are the smoothest flatwound strings ever. They almost feel greasy! No string squeak at all, and they last a long time. |
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Location: Utah | I'll have to try some of those Chromes. |
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Location: SoCal | You need to do a search thru the arhives on this subject. It's been discussed to death..... |
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Location: Cicero, NY | Arhives...an uncomfortable rash in a place where you can apparently read about coated strings. |
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Location: Reisterstown, Maryland | Originally posted by Gallerinski:
Non coated strings will eventually go dead. You don't have this problem with coated ones because they are dead right from the get-go. Another post that should come with a no drinking warning. my icetea went everywhere over my laptop. I don't know you Gallerinski but I can just hear you deadpanning that statement. :D :D
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by ladylaw:
Another post that should come with a no drinking warning. my icetea went everywhere over my laptop. I don't know you Gallerinski but I can just hear you deadpanning that statement. That's why it's more fun when he says things like that sitting across the table from you. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Jonmark Stone:
Originally posted by Gallerinski:
Non coated strings will eventually go dead. You don't have this problem with coated ones because they are dead right from the get-go. Go ahead and mock. I'm used to enduring scorn.
I play Ovations. :cool:
Q: What sounds worse than an ovation guitar
A: An ovation guitar with coated strings |
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| I'm with Gallerinski. In addition to being eternally dead, they eventually get all fuzzy.
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Location: Vernon CT | Like I said above and will say again to all you haters, You are entitled to your opinions. :p ;) :) |
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Location: Madison, Wis | Well, based off of what I am reading, I will stick with my non-coated strings. It sounds like, they may last longer, but I am really into the sound portion of strings. If I maybe am around a guitar with coated on, I will try them at time. Thanks for all your input. |
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Location: Indiana | Hmmmm So those of us who use coated strings aren't interested in how they sound? :)
I mean this in a good natured way, and I know this subject has been beaten to death, but these threads always have an element to them that isn't unlike how box players talk about roundbacks.
Not simply "personally I don't like 'em", but "personally I don't like 'em and you're nuts if you do".
The poly's I use do have "a sound". Granted.
Some like it. Some don't.
But it's not just about utility.
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Location: Madison, Wis | I really did not realize that my question was going to bring up such harsh feelings either way. I can tell you that if I have the opportunity to try them I will and then make my own judgment. Apparently there is no middle ground with this subject. Again, I thank you all for everyone's input on the subject. |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | Bill, they are a gimmic that works, a little bit. They will last longer, but they start off deader sounding, and eventually will become dead, like all things. Let's say hypothetically your regular strings last a week. These will last two weeks, maybe three, but for the first third of their lives they will be deader, and the second and final third the same as regular strings, in their second and final third phases of life.
So it comes down to cost, if you can get two sets of regular strings for the price of one coated that's what you'd get.
They feel OK.
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Location: SoCal | I was going to stay out of this conversation. It's been on the board maybe 25 times in the last 5 years. But here I am putting in my two cents worth.
First, Jonmark is right. This conversation is very similar to the ones on other boards about Ovations. "I don't like 'em." "They are crap guitars." "I can't understand why anybody would buy them."
Except we do play them and we like them.
I used to use Elixirs. The original coated strings. They sounded to me like uncoated strings after about 2 days of playing. Which is a sound that I liked. They cost twice as much as uncoated strings and lasted three times as long. They looked horrible before they sounded horrible.
Now I tend to use the Elixir phospher bronze strings and I don't think anybody could tell the difference between them and uncoated strings. They look and sound the same. And they still cost twice as much and last three times as long.
I'm trying other coated strings, Cleartones, and Ernie Balls. So far, I can't tell the difference.
The bottom line is that you should try a lot of different strings and find the ones that work and sound the best for you. That's really the only answer.
Oh, and those people on the Taylor board can bite me. But then why pay attention to them? They obviously think Taylors are good guitars. What do they know? |
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Location: Nashville TN. | Hate every coated string I have ever tried.
They ALL sound 1/2 dead when they go on.
Think 3 day old Martin Marques
I had brand new EXP string on an Ovation.
(after they came back from the mothership)
Month old Adamas strings still sounded better than new EXP's.
The EXPs now are taken off right away. |
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Location: SoCal | PEZ, don't mince words. What do you really think? |
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Location: Lake Hiawatha, New Jersey | I've been gigging twice a week lately and have a full time job and a 3 year old at home. I have very little time for changing strings these days, and the coated strings sound OK to me. Not quite as good as uncoated, but still quite good. I'm on 5 gigs on my 12 string and 3 on my 6 string and they still sound good. I used to get one or two gigs out of a set. |
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Location: GA USA | Guys, EXP's are buy-one-get-one-free in April at GC, and PEZ has a birthday in a few months.
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Originally posted by PEZ:
Hate every coated string I have ever tried.
I don't hate coated strings. I just won't use them, even when received free of charge, which is my favorite kind of string. |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | "Hi. My name's Iffy... and I use EXPs..."
... although lately I have been trying other types. Still experimenting...
BTW, I've tried some classical D'Ads Pro Arte composites and me like 'em! |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Originally posted by ProfessorBB:
I don't hate coated strings. I just won't use them, even when received free of charge, which is my favorite kind of string. The only EXP's that I have used came with New or Repaired Ovations from the Mothership.
I never waited for them to wear-out before changing them to EJ16 or the 12-sting counterpart.
I also have assorted packs of strings that I have received with other used guitars that I have bought...
I send them out with my evilBay offerings. :D
Although I do have some Silk-n-Steel's that I will use one day, I am a dedicated D'Addario user.
Someday, someone might send me something that I like better, probably not 'coated'. |
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Location: Indiana | In the interest of full disclosure and kicking expired equine's...
I don't care for EXP's or Cleartones. There are wide differences in sound between brands of coated strings to my ear.
I need to try some of those PB elixirs, Paul.
I've heard good things about them. |
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Location: southeast michigan | Time for me to chime in, I've tried coated strings (didn't work for me YMMV). That said I didn't enjoy the D'adrios on my 1869, switched to Martin SP's. They work for me, I've got some Zebra strings I'm going to try next, and if I can get up to Elderly's in Lansing anytime soon, I plan to pick up some Pyramid strings for my strat and some Pyramid strings for the 1869. Great thing about guitar strings is that they are a relative inexpensive and very nondestructive way to mod any guitar.
By the way, I love the Taylor humor--talk about folks who can't take a joke! |
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by Jonmark Stone:
In the interest of full disclosure and kicking expired equine's...
I don't care for EXP's or Cleartones. There are wide differences in sound between brands of coated strings to my ear.
I need to try some of those PB elixirs, Paul.
I've heard good things about them. Good point JM. I've got Cleartone mediums on the rebuilt Legend and one day it sounds good and the next day not.
Elixir PB's a very consistant (in my opinion). A very good, bright sound. I've got some Ernie Ball coated strings that I need to try.
I've never like EXP's.
Just before the NAMM show, I put some GHS Laurance Juber's (non coated) on the Legend. Sounded great. Temp spent a couple of nights and played that guitar and it was wonderful (not certain it's possible for him to sound bad). Except the strings ended up dead.
The only way to figure out what works best for you is to try a lot of different strings and keep a record. Lights, mediums? Coated, uncoated? etc..... |
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Location: big island | for you d'addario coated string fans, www.stringsandbeyond.com is selling them bogo currently, plus free shipping if the order is over $35.00. |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | First quality music is having a two for one special on the exp coated's, but I think you gotta buy like 75 bucks worth to get free shipping. |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | Also, I'm with the professor, except I use 'em if I get them free. |
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Location: Tennessee | Hurricane, juststrings.com carries a good selection of Pyramids. I have some of the PBs on my CL12 and they are very good. I also have used the Silver plated and they are different but still good. On your Strat, you might want to try out some D'Addario Chromes if you like flatwounds.
I normally don't used coated strings, but I ordered some real unusual and possibly very interesting ones that should arrive any day. I'm going to put them on the OFC and maybe the EF75. I'll report back. |
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Location: southeast michigan | Hi Folks--Changed strings today, tring DR Zebras for the first time on an Ovation. They are a little darker than the Martin SP's but in a good way, we'll see after afew days. |
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Location: Central Massachusetts | looks like the EXP's have been reformulated to use 50% less coating starting this year. Perhaps closer to the Elixer Nano's now. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | I was having some serious tuning problems on the '48 Martin...the D and G strings were not intonating correctly and it was driving me nuts...I tried everything I could think of but no joy. I went back to Wayne Henderson's yesterday to see if possibly a new bone nut was in order (although I really didn't want to change the original); at first Wayne was stumped just like me...finally after 30 minutes of remeasuring and checking (everything was spot on) he asked me if I had changed strings...I thought about it and told him that yes, Martin had sent me several different free sets (through the Martin Owners Club) and I had installed one set on the D-28. Turns out they were some new coated set. We took them off (D and G first and then the whole set) and installed John Pearse 700M's (Phosper Bronze). WHOA! The intonation problems were gone! The guitar again gave me goose bumps...Wayne sat down and played it for 45 minutes and what a treat that was! I can't describe in words the tone of this guitar: but incredible is certainly one.
I don't know what the Martin set was called but Crap would be a good name...
I do use Elixir's on several othere guitars but I really like D'addario's esp on Ovations...
I think its a preference issue but obviously, some guitars will not tolerate the coated strings...
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Location: Texas | MusicMishka,
Are you saying that with the same gauge strings, you had intonation problems with a coated set which were solved with a standard set? |
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Location: London, UK | My strings of choice with my setup are DR Rares. Couple o times I've tried the coated version, but they're nothing special - certainly not worth the extra cost IMO. What's the point of a longer life when they don't have such a lively sound?
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Location: Munich, Germany | When having a certain amount of guitars, that you don't play regularly, say 10 to 20-something, coated strings make sense.
With non coated, the guitar you grab 3 month after you restrung it sounds dead - even when not being played in the meantime.
I use coated strings on nearly all of my guitars and they always sound fresh.
Maybe not as fresh as fresh non coateds would, but much better than old non coateds.
Different with the regulars. Some of them have non coated, silks and so on...
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | Aside from Kurt's good points above, I don't see a need for coated strings. I believe (imho) that if I just wash my hands before playing (and sometimes I even use a silicone hand coating lotion from AVON(Silicone Glove) that dries on, My strings seem to last quite a while. If they start going flat I just change them. I once heard an old mechanic say that the brand of oil you use in a car is not as important as frequently changing the oil. The same argument could probably be made for strings. |
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Location: Lake Hiawatha, New Jersey | I've been using them for about 6 weeks now (EXP's on the 6, and Elixer Nano's on the 12) and although I don't think that they sound the same as a brand new uncoated string, they do sound good. I from changing (18) strings before every gig (which, admittedly, probably was overkill), to changing them every 4 or 5 gigs.
I think there are very good points on both sides of this, but for a working musician, I think that these strings are a viable option. To be honest, playing through a P.A. in a crowded (hopefully) bar, it's very difficult to tell the difference in strings anyway. If I were playing unplugged, or recording with a good condenser mic, I'm sure I would go for the uncoated strings. |
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Location: UK | I'm a beginner so can't tell the difference anyway - although I do feel, just a bit, that the new silk n steel that I strung on my celebrity make it sound better - or maybe it's because I hadn't changed the strings since I got the guitar. |
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Location: Marlton, NJ | Anyone ever heard of or have experience with these?
Aurora Strings
I know there were varied opinions ( :eek: ) about the other colored strings, so I wondering if these were any better, worse, the same... |
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Location: south east Michigan | I've tried tinted strings.
My opinion.... Okay. Nothing to heap glorious praise upon. They lasted as long as any other phospher bronze sets I've tried.
Temp thought they sucked stagnent castle mote water. Which might tell you about my ability to determine tone.
I will say this. A set of blue ones on my UTE looked very, very cool. |
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Location: UK | In a different thread I mentioned I'd just bought a washburn. I'm learning a few tunes in different tunings so a cheap guitar is a great help.
I'm actually very impressed with the build of the washburn but the strings just feel so hard and they're rough - rough I say - Like a file. Like sliding my fingers along broken glass. I slide a lot (Learning HotChilli's Water Song) and the strings have ground nice deep grooves in my calouses.
What strings would they be ? "Heavy-super-rough" or what ?
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Oh! 'Coated strings'... how 'bout these...
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Location: Tennessee | OK. So I'm generally not a coated string kind of guy. I do have some DR Coated Black Beauties on the 07C ... which just puts the whole coolness factor totally over the edge. Same deal as those blue ones, Brad, but black. They sound totally fine to me, and since the 07C is bright to start with, I'm real happy with the way the guitar sounds with these strings. I also got a set of red ones to put on the Ultra 2171 ... that ought to look especially cool.
I tend to try all kinds of different strings. I'm checking out some D'Aquisto strings right now and so far, so good. Got some PBs in both light and mediums (13-58). Also picked up a set of their Tony Rice strings which I'm gonna put on the Tak340BG and check them out. I also picked up some of the GHS Lawrence Juber strings, which are brass plated Phosphor Bronze. They say "Gold tone, gold color" ... and to some extent they're right. They work good on both the 1537 and the 2000C, but not so great on the Cole Clark. They're bright strings.
But the total cat's meow right now is a set of these Optima Acoustic Golds I got and put them on the OFC Ding-O. Holy crap these are cool. The strings are made in Germany and are 24-carat gold plated. Hehehe. The ultimate coated string? Well, actually, it makes a bit of sense to me. All the best electronics seem to gold plate certain components for the ultimate anti-corrosive protection, and maximum signal transfer. Normally the Optima strings are real pricey, but I scored some off eBay for just under $20 a set. Soundwise, they really help the Ding-O ... whcih I found to be rather dark and so these strings brighten up the sound and seem to really even it all out. The guitar just sounds great. I'll have to see how they hold up, but the logical argument should point to these having a pretty long life, especially on a guitar that is not heavily played. And I have to say, the gold plated strings look great with the gold inlays on the fretboard and really pick up the gold flecks in the finish and also the binding ring. I know, I am sooooo shallow, but looks do matter too. ;) If you have an OFC, a #47, an 08C, or even an original slothead, you ought to get a set of these just to check them out. They are worth it and at least to me, they really work well on these guitars.
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Location: Texas | Originally posted by stonebobbo:
OK. So I'm generally not a coated string kind of guy. I do have some DR Coated Black Beauties on the 07C ... I never tried those before. The colors seem like a gimmick, do they really look black (they have other colors also) and does the color stay that way? I will admit to momentarily wondering what the black ones would look like on my new 2080… it might look like it had no strings at all from a little distance…
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Location: Tennessee | Yes, they really do look black. Even the B and E strings. And yes, the strings totally disappear into the black headstock, black tuners, ebony fretboard and ebony bridge of the 07C. Six black lines across the bearclaw top is all you really see until you get up close. I haven't had the black ones on my guitar long enough to know how colorfast they are ... but so far, so good. I figure at some time the color will wear off in my normal picking area ... signaling to me it's time to change them.
There was a bit of a fad around here where folks were putting the Peacock Blue color on their guitars. There are probably some pictures around of this ... some folks liked the way they looked, some thought it was straight out goofy. Maybe they'll chime in here on how they lasted, etc ... but at the time most of them liked the strings and were pretty stoked about the pimped out look. Sorta like having a new set of 24s on your Buick Century. :) The other colors DR has includes green, red, hot pink, and silver. I;ve seen yellow and teal, too. I thought about buying a set of each, mixing them up, and having six sets of rainbow strings. |
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Location: Tennessee | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
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Location: Tennessee | My Ovation stable now consists of: 1969 1117 winged bridge (I call it the Clapton model ;) ), 1968 Josh, 1968 Balladeer 12 shiny bowl w/winged bridge, 6759 CL12, OFC#6, 1537, 2000 Collectors, 2007BCS, 1982 Collectors beater (still sounds great), 1651 JL3, K1111 reissue, 2171 Ultra in Sunburst (surprisingly good guitar), EAB68 CCB bass, EA68 Viper, 1271 Viper (mahogany), Deacon 12, plus my original 1311 Ultra now set up for slide. Also around are some strays that the boys use, including Betty Lou (Applause AE12 half size shallow bowl), Max's iDea guitar, an 80's Celebrity shredder guitar, and the FrankenViper. I think that's it on the Ovation side. I have some wooden boxes too ... including three Taks, a couple of Martins, the Lakewood, and the Cole Clark. And then there's the three other basses. And about dozen various electrics. :rolleyes: . |
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Location: Las Vegas, NV | Originally posted by stonebobbo:
I'll have to see how they hold up, but the logical argument should point to these having a pretty long life... It seems like, 24k gold being as soft as it is, you would start wearing through the coating where the strings contact the frets, and maybe elsewhere. Gold is great at preventing corrosion (won't oxidize), but not great at resisting wear. |
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Location: Utica, NY | I have only played electric guitar until now and the string thing is not an issue for me but I though I read somewhere that in order for Piezo pickups to work effectively that phosphor coated string were necessary. From all I read here it makes no difference. What's the 'rest of the story'? |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Presidential strings, very nice!
I tend to the non-coated D'Addario.
At one time I'd use the exp and non-coated back and forth and I really couldn't hear much difference.
Elixers you can hear it, and I don't really like them much, but I like the nanos on a slide National guitar.
The DR colored strings are interesting, I've used the blues and they sounded fine.
"stagnant castle mote water" a phrase to remember........
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Location: Nashville TN. | Originally posted by Gallerinski:
Originally posted by Jonmark Stone:
Originally posted by Gallerinski:
Non coated strings will eventually go dead. You don't have this problem with coated ones because they are dead right from the get-go. Go ahead and mock. I'm used to enduring scorn.
I play Ovations. :cool:
Q: What sounds worse than an ovation guitar
A: An ovation guitar with coated strings
Absolutely Hate coat strings
insert showering in a rain coat analogy |
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Location: Utah | Elixir Nanos do sound good on the '07. Just put them on and they sound as clear and full of overtones as the uncoated DR phos/bnz that came off. |
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