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Location: Michigan | Have the bands of the older days 60's 70's 80's finally run out of gas ?
With the exception of touring & playing all of their old tunes are there any older bands releasing anything new?
We all seem to still go see CSN&Y
The Moody Blues ,The Rolling Stones and remenise of how great they are but they seem to have run out of GAS with hitting another NEW big song or album.
Have they just given up on trying new things and just become satisfied with what they have accomplished or maybe their musical songs just dont fit into todays scene? GOT ME ? GWB |
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Location: Tidal Mudflats of Virginia | I think the audience is setting the standard. IMHO, we older populace go see the bands we remember from our youth. The last three acts I went to see played "maybe" 3 new songs and everything else was from their hit albums. I didn't go see the Stone's to hear something recent, I wanted "Satisfaction" :p |
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Location: Jet City | I went to see Rush last year. They did 9 songs off their new album Snakes and Arrows, and of course many all time favs too.
I loved the new album. They're coming back to the Gorge end of May. My tix are 2 seats away from the stage, right in front of Geddy!
I kinda like the newest release from John Fogerty too. Plant and Krause got together last year and though it probably doesn't count, I think that CD was fabulous.
As for the Stones. I don't think they have had a decent release since Steel Wheels. Just my opinions. |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Neil Young continues to excite and infuriate to his hearts content......
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Location: Tennessee | Tom Petty. And The Heartbreakers. Mudcrutch. They seem to be doing OK.
John Hiatt still has it going too, but he's not really a band. Same thing with Knopfler. And Van Morrison.
Most have done their run already, though. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Originally posted by fillhixx:
Neil Young continues to excite and infuriate to his hearts content...... I was gonna mention Neil, if only just to annoy people.
Y'all made me think, and realize, that all the bands/musicians that I really wanna see are older than me, and that means that they are pretty old.
All the bands that I consider "New" are getting pretty old too...
Gracie Slick said, "Who wants to see any 60 year-old up on stage?"
(Commenting on the Rolling Stones... That was the Tour-before-last :p )
I believe Robert Plant will be 60 this August 20th, and he still has his pipes. |
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Location: Central Massachusetts | Bruce Springsteen, Eric Clapton, James Taylor, Tom Waits, Ry Cooder, Richard Thompson |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Yeah... but David, they are all still older than dirt! :D |
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Location: Central Massachusetts | OMA, thought that was the point! Being a blues fan, many of my favorite musicians are or are approaching geriatric status.
Oh, and Eddie Vedder is older than me, just to keep it in perspective. I don't have much respect for the musicians of "my generation." |
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Location: Vernon CT | Maybe I missed it ,but, didn't the Eagles just put out a "CD" with all new original songs?? |
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Location: Lake Hiawatha, New Jersey | As Damon 67 said, Rush's latest album is very good. I think it's their best work in about 20 years. Crosby and Nash's last album was also incredible. As for Neil Young, I am a huge fan of his, but I think that he puts out a lot of crap these days. It seems that he puts out one good album for every three bad ones. Just my opinion. |
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Location: Brisbane Australia | Well at least Neil is still producing new stuff.
I'm a long time fan.
I like "Ordinary People" off his latest "Chrome Dreams 11" album
Everything old is new again!!
Including us. :D
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Location: Orlando, FL | Rush has remained a hard working band. There are a few other though - Tull still puts on a great show, but I don't think they've released a studio album for about 6 or 7 years. Same with Little Feat. They tour and crank out live CDs, but not much new stuff over the last decade.
Deep Purple Still tours and record extensively. Steve Morse was a great addition to that band he managed to fit in well and bring his own style as well.
Every time Jeff Beck releases something it's new and different, he keeps on innovating.
As for Blues guys - they just keep rollin. John Mayall has a new CD out, but it's all remakes of Freddie King and Albert King tunes. His 70th birthday concert from a couple of years ago is great! |
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Location: Michigan | BT717 kind of hit my point by saying didn't the Eagles just put out a CD ?????
What has happened to their abilities to create great music like they used to.When was the last time one of the seasoned bands had a major hit that stuck in your mind like
Dark Side Of The Moon
4 Way Street
Hotel California
Tommy/Quadrophinia
Just to name a few and I will bet ya you all know who the artists are without having to name them but just by the album.
That is what I was trying get across
Are they satisfied with their past doings or are they out of gas to create new stuff? GWB |
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Location: Tidal Mudflats of Virginia | Only comment I could make is what makes a hit a hit?
Is there an alignment of the planets, some major event that happened at the same time a song was released, etc...What I consider a hit and what mainstream radio may consider a hit are way different animals.
Sure some of those you listed hit across the board, but how many of them were the result of total airwave saturation? Kind of like forced upon the listener to accept and eventually like?
Myself, I never connect with the Beatles, nor Pink Floyd, nor The Who. The music I grew up listening on the radio was vastly different to my album collection. Which is probably why I prefer early rock and 50's Rockabilly over the majority of the 60's and 80's bands. There is a part of me that likes the folksy songs of the 70's, that where the Eagles and Buffett fill the void.
Another group that I thought never really got the recognition was George Theorogood and the Deleware Destroyer. Bad to the Bone made the charts but most of the rest were rarely played. I still drop in a little G.T. whenever I make a roadtrip, the music has a great groove, makes time slip by and the slide work is awesome... |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | OK Old Farts Club. This seems pretty simple. To really have a hit "record" you need to appeal to the youngsters who buy music. Right now all of them just download, many of them without paying for it.
My other opinion that I don't care if you share, is that, by and large, music sucked since sometime in the 80s or even sooner. The hair bands were frankly fads that couldn't last. Then we went into rap crap, boy bands and young girls that mostly just looked good. With MTV and all the videos, no one does want to see old people trying to make music. The people that buy music now are much more into the visual than the audio, so when the artists start looking old, no one is going to buy their music, because they don't look good in the videos. |
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| G.T. - now there was a great band. Their problem was that their studio stuff, as good as it is/was, couldn't hold a candle to their live performance. One of the best bands I've ever seen perform. And they are a great roadtrip soundtrack - until you see the blue lights in the rearview and realize just how fast you've been groovin'! |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Originally posted by John B:
Crosby and Nash's last album was also incredible. Are you referring to the self titled "Crosby-Nash" double CD from 2004 or have they put out something more recent? |
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| One a Genius always a Genius. But everyone has limits... In reading a few books on rock bands now I notice there are periods that it seems as though the chest of ideas becomes empty. I suppose after you have created album after Album each year throughout the 70's and etc. there is only so much new direction anyone can take anymore. The fact that your no longer young and creatively hungry and you have "been there done that" so many times it must get to be like a job has to wear on the creative jucies of any band or individual. There are some good examples of some old musicians who are still creating! My hats off to them. I am going to RUSH this summer myself. Can't wait! and if Zeppelin does their thing, I'll bite the bullet and pay the $250- $500 for a decent ticket to see them as well. They don't need to do anything new for me. Same applies with bands like Floyd, Yes, Genesis. They already created the most amazingly perfect pieces of music years ago.
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Location: Lake Hiawatha, New Jersey | Originally posted by stephent28:
Originally posted by John B:
Crosby and Nash's last album was also incredible. Are you referring to the self titled "Crosby-Nash" double CD from 2004 or have they put out something more recent? |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | I realized long ago that Good Music and "Hits" are by No Mean sononimous. Plenty of old artists are making what is some of their best music... if you wanna make panties wet, well that's one thing but, it's not necessarly good music. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Someone mentioned Radio Air-Play, which had alot to do with what music we heard, and Had To Like.
I have not Bought an "album" in years, and that was the Led Zeppelin anthology CD.
As to radio, I listen to NPR News, and old Blues and Celtic Music, and whatever Garrison Kieller plays on Prairie Home Companion.
The corporate radio plays Rap, Britney, and Classic Rock.
Even the Progressive Rock stations play Punk from the Seventies.
What ever happen the the Black Chicks with the awesome voices and broken hearts?
You cannot even find any good R&B (except for NPR Old Stuff).
I listen to my computer play lists, which is ancient stuff.
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Location: Michigan | Randy , our tastes in music seem to be very simular,so why cant Steve Howe & the YES put out an asskicking single now a days? Wheres Greg Lake ? Keith Emerson,The Moody Blues.Robert Fripp?
Do You Think If Frank Zappa Was Still With Us He Would Still Be Putting Out GOOD NEW STUFF???
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Location: Michigan | Randy , our tastes in music seem to be very simular,so why cant Steve Howe & the YES put out an asskicking single now a days? Wheres Greg Lake ? Keith Emerson,The Moody Blues.Robert Fripp?
Do You Think If Frank Zappa Was Still With Us He Would Still Be Putting Out GOOD NEW STUFF???
I think that he would.GWB |
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| Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
OK Old Farts Club. This seems pretty simple. To really have a hit "record" you need to appeal to the youngsters who buy music. Right now all of them just download, many of them without paying for it.
My other opinion that I don't care if you share, is that, by and large, music sucked since sometime in the 80s or even sooner.
The hair bands were frankly fads that couldn't last. Then we went into rap crap, boy bands and young girls that mostly just looked good. With MTV and all the videos, no one does want to see old people trying to make music. The people that buy music now are much more into the visual than the audio, so when the artists start looking old, no one is going to buy their music, because they don't look good in the videos. That's pretty much my view of it except I'd say that it started to get bad in the 70s. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I was going to start with disco in the 70s, but I must have blocked it out of my mind. I used to say country western was the worst music, but then they came up with disco, metal and rap. How in the hell could some guy with a Viking helmet called Flavor Flave or whatever make any money selling "music"? |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | In 20/20 Hindsight... Alot of "country" music ain't have bad :rolleyes:
Especially compared to some of the alternatives.
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Location: Chicago | McCartney's still writing and well-received: "Memory Almost Full" says it all. |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | 90% of EVERYTHING is crap. It takes a few years to sort our which is which. We tend to forget the garbage so it falls away and we remember only the good from the past.
That's the price of getting this old. For kids, most of the good stuff is now and in the future....for some/most of us many of the most affecting things in our lives have already happened.
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Originally posted by guitarwannabee:
Have the bands of the older days 60's 70's 80's finally run out of gas ?
With the exception of touring & playing all of their old tunes are there any older bands releasing anything new? As seen in this thread, many of the acts from the 60's 70's and 80's are releasing new material and have been.
As far as the state of music, some of you need to open your eyes. New music of ALL genre is in abundance!!!! In fact the amount of it is so great that the "record industry" has resorted to only distributing what they produce and know they can sell, but that's just a SMALL FRACTION of what's out there.
When I say NEW music, I mean NEW TUNES, not necessarily new STYLES. Everything from traditional blues, to Zydeco, to Jazz, to Country, to Metal, Emo etc etc etc.. is out there IN ABUNDANCE. Of course new styles too.
You need at the very least... to find Internet radio stations, search youTube, MySpace etc.. but it's all about searching for it.
Gone are the days of "air play" of unsigned music, or even non-hit music. There are pockets in some cities, but for the most part, it's gone.
MySpace you can set up a search of the latest and most popular downloads in the music section for your favorite genre...
I'd say there is more music available to more people now, and more new artists every day, than there has ever been in the history of music. It's just no longer spoon fed to us by turning on a radio. |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Well said, Miles. I find there is so much out there that I can no longer sort out the good from the bad. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | That would require me to get with the program, or modernize or whatever people call it, but frankly, I don't wanna. I was pretty conservative as a youngster and I'm getting much moreso. This is absolutely not a political statement in any way. I just prefer a simpler time.
I agree with you, Miles, on the diversity of music available and the quality is better in many respects. The radio filters much of the good out, but also filters much of the bad. MTV gave us most of the bad, IMO.
EDIT: Interesting that I took longer and used more words to express essentially the same thoughts that the Prof expressed. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I knew that was a soft pitch, David, but I didn't figure you'd be the one to hit it. |
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Location: Central Massachusetts | Had to scrape my way to 1000 posts somehow, right???? It only took 4.5 years!
So many software license agreements, so few braincells. Uggh.
On topic, I agree with Miles. There's just too much out there coming at us in too many different ways. I think the days of the super-mega hits are over. What was the last major release that everybody knows, or at least knows about? Maybe Thriller? Purple Rain? Clapton's Unplugged? |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | " I think the days of the super-mega hits are over."
I guess by who's definition...
two words.... Miley Cyrus
In December 2007, she was ranked #17 in the list of Forbes Top twenty earners under 25 with an annual earning of US$3.5 million. She's 16.
Best of Both Worlds Concert Live CD + Highlights DVD jumped to the No. 10 position scanning over 51,000 units, according to Nielsen SoundScan for the week ending March 23. The triple-platinum Hannah Montana 2 / Meet Miley Cyrus double disc set re-entered the Top 10 at No. 6, scanning over 61,000 units. The last artist to chart two albums in the Top 10 was Ray Charles in 2004.
I don't believe the new CD listed above is available anywhere but WalMart at this point, scheduled to go public on April 15th.
I'd say that qualifies as super-mega hit, eventhough I couldn't name a song of hers if my life depended on it. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I'm glad you added that last line at the end, Miles. I was beginning to worry that you were the head of the Miley Cyrus fan club. She is marketed well. I suppose the Beatles never would have made it, if not for television and Ed Sullivan, but I'll keep waiting for someone who has a hit based on sound instead of sight. Rolling Stones excepted, of course, since they are just plain ugly wrinkled old dudes. |
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| Amazing, Makes me feel sad for the kids who have some good talent today. I am happy I lived in the time where you started playing for the love of the music you heard. Then you tried to get better and better, and faster and faster because the bands were getting better and better and more and more complicated pieces were being written that were brilliant in their form and over all sound and emotional inspiration. You got into the industry at the bottom and you worked with better and better local musicians to try and reach the stage of covering these great bands and introducing your original music to those who came in droves to listen and compare your talents with others and if you were real good you got noticed and a record was etched of your work and off you went to sink or swim with the corporate money behind you. Then everything changed, I hate this new musical scene. I would be so frustrated if I was a young musician and I knew what people my age and older know about the way things were. You can debate the greed of corporations and the bad they brought to the table, I'll agree with some of it no question....... but the fact is..... under this banner I watched some of the best musicians thrive and become Gods in their time! How cool was that Right? Best dam music I ever heard was created under this terrible system. It is all bullshit now. It is mass marketing and targeting the teenagers with some mediocre talent that a company owns the kid or kids and out of nowhere they have tens of thousands of kids thinking hey....These are the new talents lets go listen.....tons of effects and fake harmonies and a group of kids who don't even know each other they are promoted until they sell the millions of units and the Company gets their investment and profit then they are not heard from again. This is sad. In the old Days you only got to the top because you had real talent behind you and the corporate owners would step aside and let you create because you had proved your salt in getting there. It was dog eat dog to get a band there. But when you reached the top you had something.
Your right Miles there are lots of good bands out there making music......who has the time to sit on the computer and search through thousands of names. I don't I'll take the Big Bad Greedy Corporate Bastards and the spoon fed radio anyday over this messed up system. It Sucks. |
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Location: Michigan | Can someone give me a song or an album from an artist from the sixties,seventies or eighties that has a fairly current mega hit or album.?
I am just wondering why ? Please post some bands that are still touring and selling out crowds that have a major hit now.The closest one that I can remember is SANTANA with Rob Thomas (SMOOTH)
What happened to all of the rest???
CSN&Y
Robert Fripp
Pink Floyd
Rolling Stones
Rush
YES
The Moody Blues
Ringo Starr & the Allstar Band
Led Zepplin
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Location: Jet City | GWB, I said it already.
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Location: Jet City | RUSH: 'Snakes & Arrows' Debuts At No. 3 On Billboard Chart - May 9, 2007
RUSH's latest album, "Snakes & Arrows", has sold just under 93,000 copies in the United States during its first week of release to land at No. 3 on The Billboard 200 chart. The band's last studio set, 2002's "Vapor Trails", began at No. 6 with 108,000. All told, the new set is the act's 27th album to reach The Billboard 200, according to Billboard.com. Its highest charting effort remains 1993's "Counterparts", which debuted and peaked at No. 2. |
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Location: Tennessee | Originally posted by guitarwannabee:
Can someone give me a song or an album from an artist from the sixties,seventies or eighties that has a fairly current mega hit or album.?
Who Says You Can't Go Home -- Bon Jovi
Originally posted by dobro:
McCartney's still writing and well-received: "Memory Almost Full" says it all. I thought that was the lamest, most forgettable album he's done in 20 years, and he has left several stinkers along the way. Even Moody made me turn it off. |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Originally posted by stonebobbo:
I thought that was the lamest, most forgettable album he's done in 20 years, and he has left several stinkers along the way. Even Moody made me turn it off. Instead of Syrup Of Ipecac, I use McCartney albums. |
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Location: Hopkinton, MA | We have to keep in mind that a lot of the old 60's and 70's bands are BEFORE the oldies to the present generation. My son is into the "death metal" stuff and I decided to get down a song so I could teach him. The song is "Walk" by Pantera. In the Youtube lesson that I found, the guitar teacher started out by talking about the "classic" song by Pantera. Classic? I guess I'll go back to learning my wagon wheel era Hotel California ending solo.
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Location: NJ | there is some good music out there today but I really think the musicianship is for the most part gone.
a band like big brother, yes, zappa, elp, and even led zep and the who were more AOR rock than hit oriented and since the main focus seems to be downloading music, albums are a thing of the past.
I don't know how many tunes I know that were just peripheral tunes on a LP that are my favs. there is no room for that now.
even channels delveloped to play music on tv are now only playing reality shows mtv mtvclassic vh1 vh1classic
I saw an advertisement for mtv the other day that boasted all your favorite videos are available 24 hours a day ON DEMAND so you have to log onto the channel select what you want and listen not like when you would put the channel on and see something new.
As for radio I am so glad I live in the philly area and can get wxpn (they stream on the internet also so check it out) it is a terrific mix of new old and obscure. sorta like radio was in the golden age of the 60's and 70's |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Originally posted by alpep:
As for radio I am so glad I live in the philly area and can get wxpn (they stream on the internet also so check it out) it is a terrific mix of new old and obscure. sorta like radio was in the golden age of the 60's and 70's I've traveled or lived in nearly all 50 States.... I've never heard a better radio station than WXPEN. It is the HandsDown best. |
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Location: Jet City | Dammit Jim, speaking of Rush...
Hello from Amazon.com.
We're writing about the order you placed on February 24 2008 16:18 PST
(Order# 103-9344835-XXXXX). Unfortunately, the release date for the item(s) listed below has
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Estimated arrival date: 04/17/2008
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Location: Tennessee | I'd put KFOG (my local San Francisco station) up against any station. Sounds like it's is very akin to WXPN. KFOG is available online too at www.kfog.com.
There's tons of new music out there, and a lot of it is really good. Lucky for me, I have kids that keep me turned on to the newer stuff ... in some pretty diverse and eclectic genres. That said, we are back to the time when "singles" are the name of the game. Albums are for "artists" ... which seem to be fewer and fewer these days. |
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Location: Tennessee | KOME is long gone. Don't touch that dial - you've got KOME on your radio! :) It's now KFOX, and the morning show is hosted by Greg Kihn (for about the last 10 years). It's still good, although I'm not really into listening to "classic rock" 24/7. |
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HAVE MOST OF THE OLDER BANDS FINALLY RUN THEIR MUSICAL COURSE???