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Location: SoCal | Did you read Al's newsletter?
"I have purchased the remaining inventory of Adamas 1 reissue 1687-8 and -2 guitars."
As you know (or should), the reissues (all of the models) were outstanding...back then, I had gotten the 47RI and the 1687-8.
This time, I got a -2(red). Got it in Friday just before I left to Tampa...11pm Friday I've finally got a couple of minutes to play it. Exciting, as close to my early 1687's as possible...maybe better, as some of us believe the re-engineered pre-amp is better than the original. Put it next to the 47RI.
This is an outstanding opportunity, for only a short time...not many available and Al has them all.
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Location: Hong Kong | Done.... Have been looking for a 1687-8 reissue for quite some time & never expected such a great deal...
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| Originally posted by dweezil:
What is the deal? Where's the newsletter? :rolleyes: It's not like he hides his email or telephone number :rolleyes:
CONTACT AL! |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Hey, Tony, (or anyone else) how about some guitar porn of a red one for me to drool over? |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | You're lucky if there's only two. I was looking at the Adamas brochure for 2005. I got the Ute, but was drooling over the other 3 special editions. The #47 would have been the ultimate, but I decided to go with the OFC instead. All the time I spent looking at the pictures, I never realized that the 1687RI came in red. |
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Location: SoCal | Al really went out on a limb for us...bought a fair number of them for us. They were supposed to go to Europe...some may still since he ships world wide.
Interested...move fast, especially for the -2 red; my wife said "it's gorgeous" - plays even better than it looks.
This is his newsletter:
Now some exciting news
I have purchased the remaining inventory of Adamas 1 reissue 1687-8 and -2 guitars. As you probably know Fender has purchased Kaman Music Corp and has been slowly liquidating the inventory of the USA line. When I found out that this may happen with the Adamas 1 guitars I acted fast. These guitars are the same specs as the 30th anniversary models and were built for the European market. Well they never made it there but we do ship internationally.
From my talks with Rick Hall, Ovation USA is morphing into a custom shop operation. There are no immediate plans for shutdown but guitars are built on an order basis. He told me that his plans for the Adamas line was to bring it back to the exclusive guitar of it's beginnings where the bowls are hand laid fiberglass, the braces are all weighted and rated, the original tone ring attachment system, laser vibrometer read outs etc etc etc. So it is probably safe to say that these guitars will be the end of an era.
here are the specs:
1687-8 Adamas I Reissue
The Adamas I features the original design carbon-graphite top along with detailed ornamentation such as a carved peghead scroll, carved bridge, and elaborately decorated sound holes. This model also included Ovation's signature stereo preamp package. The 1687 will be available in the 3rd quarter of 2005.
SPECS
Body Type: Deep Non-Cutaway
Top: Unidirectional Carbon Graphite
Bracing: Quintad
Scale Length: 25 1/4"
Neck Finish: Satin
Fretboard: Resin-Impregnated Walnut
Fret Inlay: Original Adamas I Design Maple
Bridge: Carved Walnut
Rosette: Original Adamas I Design 13 piece
Pickup: Original Patended Pickup
Nutwidth: 1 11/16”
Machines: Gold Schaller
Case: 9158-0
PRE-AMP
STEREO FET
The built in FET Preamp reduces hum and line noise, giving the guitar virtual immunity to feedback. Separate volume and tone controls are mounted at the waist of the instrument for ease of adjustment and quick visual reference while playing.
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Location: SoCal | Mark...call him now...you need the -2 |
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Location: SoCal | per Al: "The red ones were never offered to the USA market and are very rare."
Sure looks good next to #3 47RI... |
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Location: Germany | Please please me with pictures of the red one!
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Location: SoCal | Karl,
Maybe Al has one left to post...I am in Tampa, (alas) guitar in San Diego...
Has standard 1687 rope binding but otherwise at similar quality as the 47RI...course, I may add a little antique gold to the -2's rope. |
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Location: NJ | I will try to get some pics of the red one up asap.
I have been really busy today.
that was not really a newsletter but a special sale item e mail.
I wanted to offer it to customers on my mailing list first before I opened it up to the OFC and ultimately whomever else.
if you are interested call me for a price. This is a great deal. I have put them up on e bay but for more than the OFC member price.
This price will be for a limited time only.
I did not want to cause mass panic with this but these are the last of the 30th anniv guitars that are to be made.
when they are gone.
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Location: South of most, North of few | THAT is a great deal on a broccoli head if I ever saw one. I'm not really into that carving thing, but if I were, one would be on the way already. You guys better start counting change from the couch. These shouldn't last long. |
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Location: Nashville TN. | Is there any noticable sound difference between
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Location: SoCal | Note really sure if they ever rated one against the other.
There are difference ratings from guitar to guitar...from what I had been told, 90-93 is probably the average for the 1687, yet I have one rated 101.
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
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Location: Texas | Originally posted by Slipkid:
I spent concerted effort not to read to much into that "morph into a custom shop" thing. It's hard not to, though…
SOOOO tempting… I have been able to stay in the house with my new 2080… another Adamas right now and I'd be sleeping outside. Maybe if Al could include a bonus extra-large doghouse with every purchase? |
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Location: SoCal | re: "I did not want to cause mass panic"
Not something to rejoice or despair but not unexpected. My concern had been focused on the employees v. the guitars as I have more to to play than I have time (at least for now).
Doubt if there will be more than a handful of "custom" orders due to the cost.
So, now we are going to have a diminishing supply (some damage, some will not be resold for a decade or more). I can't see a diminishing demand.
The OFC get-togethers, etc., drive some of the demand as someone can actually get a chance to play a textured top. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | There's things you can control in the world and things you can't. The good news is that there will always be a ton a great guitars available from many, many manufacturers including Ovation. |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | Damn, I wish hadn't bought a car. I'm tapped. you guys enjoy them. |
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Location: NJ | Pics of the -2 are available on my website
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Location: SoCal | Al, nice pictures...
However, the -2 reissue looks even better than the pictures!!
Workmanship was perfect. True reissue of the early ones in the late 70's.
Even if you aren't buying, check out Al's website...doesn't hurt to window shop. |
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Location: Utah | Perhaps the credit card needs a workout. One of them 2080's has been calling me for a long time now. How can I slip this past the wife? |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Knock-Knock-Knock ... Who's there?
UPS Delivery ...OK, be right there let me just finish installing this additional guitar wall hanger |
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Location: south east Michigan | Way to go Dave...
Ain't no moss growing in that stone!! |
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Location: SoCal | Heck, my wife just said it "is beautiful"; then thinks I should get the rest of the -2's for "inventory". |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | The timing on this all happening is killing me. Just a few days before Al told us about this killer opportunity I dropped a wad on my other passion, high end audio.
PS Audio PWT Perfect Wave Transport
Amazing concept and based on some other PS Audio products I own it should live up to the hype it has received (I have 30 days to decide if I am keeping it or not).
Anyway, I am busting my brain trying to figure out how to score one of these from Al before they all disappear. What a deal! |
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by Tony Calman:
Heck, my wife just said it "is beautiful"; then thinks I should get the rest of the -2's for "inventory". Do it Tony. Then I'll buy one from you on time, $10/month, forever....... |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Quit rubbing it in, Tony. I couldn't even get my wife to come over to your house to see how a real guitar addict lives.
Paul, I am a lot more generous than you. I'd be willing to turn over my full $20 monthly allowance, but I already offered it to someone else. |
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
Paul, I am a lot more generous than you. I'd be willing to turn over my full $20 monthly allowance, but I already offered it to someone else. Hookers do cost, don't they? |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | I'm a little pimp with my hair gassed back
Pair a khaki pants with my shoe shined black
Got a little lady ... walk the street
Tellin' all the boy that she cain't be beat
Twenny dollah bill ( I can set you straight )
Meet me onna corner boy'n don't be late
Man in a suit with a bow-tie neck
Wanna buy a grunt with a third party check
Standin' onna porch of the Lido Hotel
Floozies in the lobby love the way I sell |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | These 1687's are REALLY nice !!! |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Slipkid:
Dave... did you get a red one?? No. I was a few days too early. |
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Location: Hong Kong | Received my 1687-8 today... Love it...
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Thanks to Mr. Big I have now joined the 1687 parade! :cool:
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Nice Stephen! As you, I and others have concluded, no matter if you "need" this guitar or not, the price is just too freaking good to pass up (last of the best). Take out the battery, loosen the strings and stash it under the bed. You'll sell it in 10 years for double the price. Congrats. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Dave, that was my exact thinking.
Al never mentioned how many of these were available (a limited number to be sure) but for the asking price, people should consider putting it on a credit card and grabbing what appears to be the last Adamas guitars to be made (except via custom orders and I shudder to think what those will cost!).
Soon they will all be gone and people will be weeping at the missed opportunity. |
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Location: SoCal | You know, if you've got the extra cash, then this is the time to buy a guitar and just put it away.
But having said that, I'm not a huge Adamas 6 string fan (personal opinion -- those who love them are also absolutely right in their opinion as there's no right or wrong to it). I've only played 3 that really knocked my socks off. They were Clifford's slothead (he's a guy who used to hang around the board), Whitehead's custom wide neck, 12 fret, mid bowl Adamas, and Toby's 47 of 47 (I played, one night every guitar he owned and kept coming back to it).
I own 2 Adamii, Big Blue (my Adamas I 12 string) and #3 of the OFC guitars (ding!). Will never sell either. And while the 6 string sounds great, it's special for a lot of other reasons besides the sound.
If I really loved Adamas 6 strings, I'd sell guitars to afford one of these. But as exciting as it is, I'm just a wood topped kinda guy...... |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
I've only played 3 that really knocked my socks off. They were Clifford's slothead (he's a guy who used to hang around the board), Whitehead's custom wide neck, 12 fret, mid bowl Adamas, and Toby's 47 of 47 :p |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | I am finally happy with the instruments I have been able to aquire over the past few years...and of those the Adamas I's and Elite's are my favorites...Letting the "Book" and '08C go this week was hard: they are great guitars and both are rare and highly collectable...but I am only playing a steady few from my collection on a regular basis...finding and buying the '78 1687-8 #189 changed everything for me...it is the finest Adamas I to date I have played and the factory did such a supurb job of r&r on it that it has put out the GAS for the forseeable future.
That said, I have no doubt that everyone who gets one of these fine guitars from Al will be thrilled...and congratulations on owning the finest A/E guitar ever made IMHO....
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Well my 1687 showed up today and all I can say is WOW! WOW! WOW!
I had forgotten how great these guitars looked and sounded. Getting one was a stretch due to the tough economic times but man am I glad I did it!
I cannot stress enough that if there is any way you can swing it, you should grab one of these......last non-custom shop Adamas to ever be made and Al has a price that just can't be beat!
Thanks Al for making this happen!!!!!!! |
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Location: Bluffton, SC | I'm trying like hell to raise the extra cash (extra cash - is there such a thing today?)for one but I think I'm going to end up on the outside looking in when all is said and done. These are incredible guitars...enjoy 'em guys. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Weaze...you need to talk to Al. Maybe he has some sort of layaway or payment plan you could do.
You won't regret it and it is not one to be missed! |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | I've read that the Adamas Is are similar to the Adamas IIs in tone, is that right? |
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Location: Sydney, Australia | Given that the differences basically amount to bling, it should be almost impossible to tell the difference. However, with the Adamas 1 bling I'm sure I'd feel better and therefore think that I sounded better. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Given that the differences basically amount to bling, it should be almost impossible to tell the difference. However, with the Adamas 1 bling I'm sure I'd feel better and therefore think that I sounded better.
Richard, I have played and owned a bunch and I have to say that in my experience that is the exception rather than the rule...
However there have been several Adamas II's I have liked a lot: Beggins 1685-5 is one of the best 12 strings I have ever heard, and TJ's 1681-7 is a great 6 string...
Side by side a/b comparisons usually tip in favor of the Adamas I's...
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Location: Brisbane Australia | Originally posted by TAFKAR:
Given that the differences basically amount to bling, it should be almost impossible to tell the difference. However, with the Adamas 1 bling I'm sure I'd feel better and therefore think that I sounded better. Richard,
Close your eyes and think of Conneticutt!!
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I've owned about 10 of each (adamas I, adamas II) and yes martha there IS a difference.
If based on some criteria (my ears) you could like them all up the Adamas I's would all fall towards one and end the Admas II's would fall towards the other. But there would be some crossover in the middle. I remember one particular 1581 single epi that was just freaking amazing (I think Temp has it now) and I also remember a 1687 that was pretty dead. Dispite the man made materials these ARE living and breating beings in my book and each has it's own voice. The Adamas I voice to me has a bit more growl and low end. But for playability I far prefer the Adamas II because of the neck.
The FGA (Final Version Adamas) 1687 that I just got from Al is a tone machine. Side by side with 47RI-47, OFC-8 and SH-42 you'd have a hard time saying the FGA was AT ALL inferior to any of them. These FGA guitars from Al are the deal of the century as far as I'm concerned. I've detuned it, removed battery, put it back in the box and stashed it away for a nice rainy day sale years down the road.
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Dave, I agree. This one sounds better than any of the Adamas IIs I had and I was amazed at how light in weight it was.
I think it compares very favorably with the 47RI and my custom 2080Ds.
Right now it sounds too good to put back up and store for a rainy day sale. Got a few others for that purpose. This one is gonna get played. |
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But like the 1687 or shallower? Ta. Hmmmmmmmmm....someone's brain is not engaged after snagging the FD14!
Dave, you showed great restraint!!! |
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| I got my 1687 30th RI as NOS well before Al worked out this deal, else one would be on the way to me, too. Impossible to say which I like better - the 08C or the 1687-RI - as each has its unique tone and physical characteristics. A red one would sure be tasty, tho!
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Tony C got one of them.
Last I heard there were a couple still available.
I went for the blue because amazingly I have somehow sold off all my blue ones. Now I am covered!
Black - 2080D
Red - 47 RI
Blue - 1687
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by G8r:
... you really need to keep reminding your SWMBO about "the pretty blue one." Don't let it pass you by! My wife would say "Let's get the kids thru college first. That too is a once in a lifetime opportunity...." |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | My youngest graduated last week. We've already discussed what to do with that money we won't have to send to school next August. 16 years of paying tuition to private school, sometimes for both, is finally over. I think she has other ideas for the money, though, like pay off her car loan. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Slipkid:
Dave... did you get a red one?? Originally posted by Gallerinski:
Blue ... ... and Red.
Did you ever have this happen, the wife sends you to the store to buy toothpaste:
Me: Honey, I'm home.
Wife: Did you get the toothpaste?
Me: Yup. It was on sale for a stupid low price.
Wife: So how many did you get?
Me: Just one. That's all we needed.
Wife: You idiot. You'll never find another deal like that. Go buy another one.
Me: Whatever you say dear.
Well that's pretty much how this adamas deal went down. Minus the part about the wife knowing anything about it, of course. I'll bet anyone dinner right now that these will resale for $5000. in 5 years.
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by Gallerinski:
I'll bet anyone dinner right now that these will resale for $5000. in 5 years. Ok, you're on..... |
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Location: Bluffton, SC | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
Originally posted by G8r:
... you really need to keep reminding your SWMBO about "the pretty blue one." Don't let it pass you by! My wife would say "Let's get the kids thru college first. That too is a once in a lifetime opportunity...."
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Location: SoCal | The only way to afford one of these would be to sell the OFC guitar (ding!), and THAT ain't gonna happen.... |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | 
If the RI's are going to be worth $5,000 in 5 years like Dave says, just imagine what these will be worth...I love the new ones but I'm just fine for now. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Dave, you are the man!
I would have loved to have pulled that one off. I think you are dead on about the price increasing cause they ain't gonna be no more made.....at least that won't cost a fortune.
Mr. Patrick.....bite the bullet and pull out the credit card and tell SWMBO that it is all you want for your next 3 Christmas. |
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Location: SoCal | Just got an email adv from Music123 extending their "save up to 83% off" Memorial Day Sale.
For the 1687-8 30th Anniv, they have it on sale for $2,879 (shipped, if they actually have it in stock).
Al has it for $2,499.99 shipped.
He only has one of the -2's available (red)although that is a little more expensive.
Don't wait...this is NOS (new old stock) and will not be repeated. |
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Location: NJ | Tony
I am rather positive they have no guitars in stock.
I own the remaining stock of 1687 guitars |
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Location: SoCal | Well we know that from Al we will get the 9158 case that is supposed to come with the Adamas, not just an "Ovation case" which usually means the lower quality. These are not shop worn, as if they were made last week.
If you have the 47RI, you need the -2.
If you don't have the 47RI, you need the -2.
When my wife saw the -2 as I took it out of the case, she said "that's beautiful". Now for those who don't know...I have the 47RI, the OFC, early 1687's, 30th Anniv 1687-8, U681T, 1688 Adamas 12-str, Custom Legends, Martin HD-28VS, Martin D-25K2, Takamine 45th Anniv, Takamine New Yorker, Takamine TVN360SC, etc., etc.
This 30th Anniv 1687-2...she says "that's beautiful".
The -2 is extremely rare...myself, Witko, and one other are the only ones who have a 30th Anniv 1687-2.
ONE LEFT....told Al that I will buy the last one in a couple of days just to hold it and sell it for more later. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Tony Calman:
ONE LEFT....told Al that I will buy the last one in a couple of days just to hold it and sell it for more later. Tony, you "red" my mind. These are too good and too cheap to pass by. And only THREE in existence. |
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Location: SoCal | Last of the best is no longer available :D |
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| Well now ain't that the pits? Missing the last of the best by 17 days...
But I sure am looking forward to getting a nice blue one! |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Powerpopper from the Tak forum?
Welcome and if this is your first Ovation/Adamas, man you picked a doozy! |
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Powerpopper from the Tak forum?
Welcome and if this is your first Ovation/Adamas, man you picked a doozy! Yes, that's me and this is my first Ovation/Adamas. I'm pretty stoked. Al just sent me the tracking info a few minutes ago...can't wait!
But uh...how much better would the red one have sounded? :D |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Well under a blood red moon in Colorado it will sound significantly better :D but it other parts of the US there would probably be no discernible difference ;) .
That's a hell of a first buy to jump into the Ovation/Adamas market. A whole new era of GAS coming your way. |
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| Originally posted by stephent28:
Well under a blood red moon in Colorado it will sound significantly better :D but it other parts of the US there would probably be no discernible difference ;) .
That's a hell of a first buy to jump into the Ovation/Adamas market. A whole new era of GAS coming your way. I was a young kid when these came out and I had a few local guitar idols who played them. I'm thankful to be older and have the resources to (sort of) go back in time. After having visited the Gibson, Martin and Taylor lines (along with a good dose of Fender and a few other odds and ends), I've told my wife this will be my only Ovation/Adamas.
No GAS here. Nope, no way. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Powerpopper!
First this.....and now I see you have jumped into the deep water and got a German Topped D2h!!!
You are living the good life......look forward to your impressions.
OFC MEMBERS.....these are the last of the best! Al got all the last ones and I can't imagine that there are a lot of them left. Break open the piggy banks and get one while they are still available! |
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| Originally posted by stephent28:
Powerpopper!
First this.....and now I see you have jumped into the deep water and got a German Topped D2h!!! Yes, it is stacking up to be a GREAT guitar week. |
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Location: SoCal | Al has shipped the last of the -2's to Colorado... |
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Location: NJ | still have blue ones available |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | having one of each (blue/red) is pretty damn sweet.
Been out of town but my business neighbor across the hall signed for it so I will pick it up on Monday.
These guitars are so worth more money than the asking price....even in todays tough economic times, getting one is a no brainer.
Willa....you should grab a blue one while you patiently search for that elusive red one you want. You won't regret it. |
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Location: SoCal | So Stephen, should I sell my OFC slothead to buy one of these? |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | I guess that's up to you Paul.
I personally didn't care for the OFC 1 guitar that I heard (too dark sounding) and chose the 47RI over it.
I think for the price Al is asking, this last batch of 1687's are hard to beat.....plus the sentimental fool in me wants to own a piece of the "end of an era".
All different flavors of ice cream. Can't go wrong with any of them and I have sold more than a few to purchase few more! ;) |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I agree with T28, the allure of being part of the Adamas swansong was too much to pass by. I've already been offered more for the red one than I paid. |
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Location: NJ | Originally posted by Gallerinski:
I agree with T28, the allure of being part of the Adamas swansong was too much to pass by. I've already been offered more for the red one than I paid. there I go again being the worst salesman on the planet |
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Location: Brisbane Australia | You guys have jam on it!!
So easy to buy sell swap em around.
A $2.5k git costs me another $1k by the time you ship and pay the freaking duty
Maybe I should become a Maton or Cole Clark enthusiast. :rolleyes:
Yeah Al I shoulda bought that 1687-2 from you
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Having just joined the fortunate few who have both a blue and red one (OFC and #47), I can do a quick A/B. I was disappointed in the OFC when I brought the 47 home. Then I changed the strings on the OFC. The difference is slight. The 47 is slightly crisper or brighter. I don't know how to discribe it. It's there, but so small, it's hard to describe. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Same conclusion as Mark. It's the saddle on the OFC guitar that does it. Since I never play it plugged in I'm thinking of getting a solid bone replacement.
The 1687 regular reissues are damn good for the money but not quite in the same league as the 47/OFC. Of course good old #42 and it's siblings define yet another league entirely. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Karl, in Germany, reached the same conclusion. There are a couple additional factors that might affect the sound. One is that on mine the action is about one shim higher on the 47. I don't know if I'll bother taking a shim out to check the difference. I might put one back in the OFC. The other is whatever difference occurs from putting the electronics in. That shrinks the bowl volume by some small factor. |
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Location: SoCal | A bone saddle and a sharper break over the saddle can mean a real difference in sound. I'm not surprised that there's a difference.
On my rebuilt Legend I've got a real good break over the saddle (acoustic only, bone saddle) and with mediums on it it has a real good pop. On my 87C, there's a lesser break and it takes lights to make it ring (mediums on it sound dull)... |
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Location: Tennessee | Ay caramba! This thread is is getting frighteningly close to a transcript of doily knitters sitting around the stove. ;) The difference may actually be from the way you're holding your pick ... you are using the same exact pick for the sound comparisons, right? :rolleyes:
Maybe I'm just jealous 'cause I really can't appreciate the minute nuances. Or perhaps I'm just happy to have the guitars I have. Even if it would be cool to have one if these, I can't see buying another guitar to be able to put one more shim in it to get a slightly different tone. I'd never freaking hear the difference ... not with my lame playing anyway.
Originally posted by AussieJames:
Maybe I should become a Maton or Cole Clark enthusiast.
AJ, jump on in! The water's fine! |
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Location: SoCal | Doesn't happen real often, but when Bobbo's right, he's right.... |
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by stephent28:
I guess that's up to you Paul.
I personally didn't care for the OFC 1 guitar that I heard (too dark sounding) and chose the 47RI over it.
I think for the price Al is asking, this last batch of 1687's are hard to beat.....plus the sentimental fool in me wants to own a piece of the "end of an era".
All different flavors of ice cream. Can't go wrong with any of them and I have sold more than a few to purchase few more! ;) Stephen, I was just teasing about selling the OFC I slothead (ding!). I'm not a huge Adamas fan (except for my Adamas I 12) and if I got one of the last Adamas I's from Al, it wouldn't get played as much as my Legend, 87C or FD14. If you got the cash, it's a cool purchase, but not something I've gotta have.
I'm very sentimental about the OFC slothead (ding!) and the sound of it is only one component.... |
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | And speaking of picks, a nylon pick will sound totally different than a plastic pick. My 1617 Legend sounds a LOT better with a nylon pick, but the 2077 LX sounds better with plastic. (I hardly ever even use a pick, but I like to try both plastic and nylon whenever I get a new guitar, just in case I feel like playing "Under the Double Eagle".) |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Same pick, same thumbnail, same angle of attack, but the most noticeable difference to me is one is blue and the other is red. Also, the blue one has knobs on the side that I never use. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | I now tonerite all of my guitars (all wood and/or all space age materials)which makes a significant improvement in both sound and feel.
Mark, I slapped the tonerite on the #47 for about 2 days before you got it. Normally a 4-7 day session really makes them shine but even 2 days probably added a little sparkle. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Paul, I knew you were kidding. You never sell any guitars! |
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Location: SoCal | Ah, good point.... |
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ADAMAS - NOS, last chance?