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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | Any JD fans out there....Preferably with LOTS of disposable income?
Still kinda neat though.....
...or should I say "Far out!" 
JD\'s Adamas 12-string |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | for 42,000 I would want John Denver to deliver it to me personally. |
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Location: South of most, North of few | For that much, they might just be able to arrange it. |
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Location: Sydney, Australia | At least they could name the guitar properly: An Adamas Ultra!!? So was this Adamas put together in Korea and then checked over in the US? |
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Location: Indiana | Interesting price considering John didn't care for Ovations. He was good natured about it, but his opinion was strong.
Definitely not one of his cherished instruments. |
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Location: East Tennessee | I believe this was on eBay a couple of years ago. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Circa 1980 1688-9 Adamas I 12 CWK2 signed...Makes my -7 look even better...
42 large...hmmmm hope they got the check.... :rolleyes:
Great site tho...Denver was one of my favorites and a big 12 string influence...gone way too soon... |
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Location: Nashville TN. | Originally posted by Jonmark Stone:
Interesting price considering John didn't care for Ovations. He was good natured about it, but his opinion was strong.
Definitely not one of his cherished instruments. He had more than just the Adamas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bFy9IzcW6A |
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Location: Nashville TN. | Here what it sounds like
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6zb3PR8XIY |
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Location: Indiana | Originally posted by PEZ:
He had more than just the Adamas
Yeah. He had an Elite for a short while too.
I had a great evening with him a year or so before he died. Having seen similar Ovation pic's I brought up the subject. He was really dismissive at that point in his life. Very into his Taylor's by then, his last word on the matter was "guitars should be made out of wood".
That aside, really special guy. |
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by PEZ:
Originally posted by Jonmark Stone:
Interesting price considering John didn't care for Ovations. He was good natured about it, but his opinion was strong.
Definitely not one of his cherished instruments. He had more than just the Adamas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bFy9IzcW6A |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | I contacted the owner of the JDGuitars site and gave him the updated info on the correct model numbers and names for Denver's Adamas guitars...also gave him Jerome's website address... |
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Location: Sydney, Australia | Think I'd rather have $40,000 and an Adamas with epis intact. |
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Location: Nashville TN. | He was at his best Mic'ed guitar.
I think I had forgotten how amazing his voice was.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eivZd4j5MBs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkGS263lGsQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKDDWy9Zb_4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkGS263lGsQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWU8XWksg_0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUc41gKw0iQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkM-J5gM0G8&feature=related |
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Location: ms | His Yamaha sold for 62K. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | I remember seeing them selling Jerry Garcia's USED guitar strings...
[Forget for how much, but they were going for more than Elixir's... More than somebody's trash should]
I also think it sux that the Yamaha went for more than they are asking for the Adamas...
But the leaves did get knocked-off the Adamas. |
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Location: Brisbane Australia | I like John Denver and I also like Adamas guitars.
Just not that much!!!
AJ |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | Can't see the video at work .... is he playing "I'm leaving on an experimental aircraft" |
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Location: Upper Left USA | an4340,
I too, made a comment like that with a friend of mine, Dan, and soon found out how small the world really is.
It seems that in Dan's early career he had been a Ranch Hand/Chef/Maintenance/Body Guard on John Denver's ranch. He took the Exp. Airplane thing hard. I Googled the report and found it was an unfortunate mixture of fuel tank switch placement and garavity.
But I do enjoy the wit! |
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Location: SoCal | It was pilot error.
After Denver's death, at a gathering of friends, I was asked to play something of Denver's. I know it was a tacky choice, but I did Forest Lawn...... |
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Location: Germany | Capo Guy is right, it was offered on ebay in February 2006. There was a 35k bid but the auction ended with the reserve not met. Don't know if it was sold or not. Anyway, this was the seller's auction text:
"In 1971, I moved to Aspen Colorado where the first two people I happened to meet were John and Annie Denver. This was before John had become the well-known entertainer that he is famous for today. Our friendship developed over many campfires and time spent together and in 1975 John asked me if I would work for him. By 1980, I had become John's road manager, political liaison and record producer. The albums I produced were "Seasons of the Heart", "It's About Time", Greatest Hits, Vol. III, and "The Muppets in the Mountains." As John's road manager, I hired Steve Voudouris to be our guitar technician and he introduced John to Ovation guitars. We used them primarily for live concerts as their construction made them basically indestructible and, at the time, they had the best electronics of any system available. John played this Ovation twelve-string guitar in many, many concerts while performing some of his best-known songs including Calypso, Annies Song and Eagle and the Hawk.
Inside the guitar is a Adamas by Ovation sticker. It is hand signed by C.W. Kaman II. Also has - no. 656-94 and at a right angle to these numbers are the numbers 1688-9."
Interesting guitar I'd like to own but would pay not more than one-tenth of what he wants for it.
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Location: Indiana | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
It was pilot error. The NTSB actually divided the fault between pilot error and a builder implemented change to the aircraft design... with the emphasis on pilot error.
The Long-EZ aircraft is certified "Experimental" because it is a plans built design (not factory built). It actually has an extremely safe record, docile flight characteristics, nearly impossible to stall unless improperly loaded. It was designed by Burt Rutan of Space Ship One fame, one of the preeminent aircraft designers of our time.
The construction plans call for the fuel tank switch to be mounted in front of the pilot... the traditional location. Since the Long-EZ is a "pusher" design (engine/prop in the back), the builder decided it would make the plane safer to avoid plumbing the fuel lines past the pilot location to the front panel, so he placed it on the bulk head behind the seat just over the pilot's left shoulder, deviating from the plans.
Having only owned the plane a few days, John was unfamiliar with the new arrangement. It was shown in the NTSB investigation, that the body twist in order to access the fuel switch could easily cause the pilot to deflect both the stick left/down, and the left rudder peddle at the same time, causing the aircraft to bank and dive.
Cruising at only 500 ft above the bay, concentrating on turning the fuel switch, John literally flew into the water at approximately 130 knots in a matter of seconds.
John was a commercially rated pilot with nearly 3000 hours flight time. But flying is unforgiving of momentary inattention whether by a low time flyer or an experienced pilot.
October 12 1997 was a very sad day. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Similar to trying to reach with your left hand to pull down your seat belt without the Cop behind you noticing - while your cell phone rings with "the Boss" ringtone and the car in front of you stalls...
It don't take much. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | My first car was a '64 1/2 Mustang coupe...the door lock was located at equal height and just behind my left shoulder...on my first trip with my new drivers license, I tried to lock the door while driving...I tried using my elbow and eventually turned to lock it with my left hand...I involuntarily moved the wheel to the right when I turned and the next instant the car dropped into the ditch on its side...fortunately I wasn't going fast and little damage was done...one of the hardest things I had to do was call my Dad to tell him...
It can happen in an instant and that’s what happened to John's plane...
Yes, it was an extremely sad day...he had a great gift…and he used it well…so did Harry Chapin… |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | Oh I know. It was a horrible death. I feel sorry for him, but still that song went thru my head. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | After Denver's death, at a gathering of friends, I was asked to play something of Denver's. I know it was a tacky choice, but I did Forest Lawn...... Actually Paul, I think John would have loved it...it was always one of my favorites and I used to do it on a regular basis in my sets... |
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Location: Sydney, Australia | Around the time John Denver died, Mother Theresa and Princess Di, both died shortly beforehand. My reaction to Mother Theresa was: She had a good innings, lived a good life and if anyone was going to heaven, she will. Not upset at all.
To Princess Di: Rich bitch, lived the high life and still couldn't be happy. No sympathy.
To John Denver: This was the man who wrote and sang many of the significant songs of my adolescenthood. I was cut to pieces by his death. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by TAFKAR:
Around the time John Denver died, Mother Theresa and Princess Di, both died shortly beforehand. My reaction to Mother Theresa was: She had a good innings, lived a good life and if anyone was going to heaven, she will. Not upset at all.
To Princess Di: Rich bitch, lived the high life and still couldn't be happy. No sympathy.
To John Denver: This was the man who wrote and sang many of the significant songs of my adolescenthood. I was cut to pieces by his death. Interesting observations. |
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Location: Tennessee | I'm having a great time imagining all the pranks he and George Burns are pulling off. |
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Location: Colorado | MusicMiska..I agree about Chapin too...'specially the cottonpatch stuff..w/ Lauderdale, Key, Marks, Ainsley, and Corum...good stuff. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | It's awesome...highly recomemded! |
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Location: Indiana | I was playing a restaurant gig in Ft. Meyers Florida in 1990. Four hour cover job, dinner background music...
I did Cat's in The Cradle, moved along to something else, may be Taxi. Took a smoke break and an older gentleman in a polyester suit came up, extended his hand and said, "thanks for playing my sons music". I was lost for a minute until I caught his last name, Chapin.
A few weeks later, he came back with Harry's wife Sandy, and Big John Wallace of the original Chapin band. That lead to an invite to a concert with brother Steve doing Harry's parts with the Chapin band, and a party afterward.
I had all the more respect for Harry when I met the people that he surrounded himself with in life.
The most telling thing I ever heard about Harry came from his mega star manager, Ken Kragen. He said the worst thing he could say about Chapin was that, every time he got him a career making booking, it inevitably conflicted with some charity event Harry was committed to.
That's a pretty sweet legacy. |
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Location: East Tennessee | One of the best concerts I've ever seen was John Denver. He did a tour without any band to back him up. Just him and three guitars.
It takes a lot of talent for one man with a guitar to hold an audience. He did all his hits plus some newer material. Not only did he have a great voice, he could play guitar. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | I just got off of the phone with the owner of the Denver Adamas 12 string...He really appreciated the info I provided about the guitar and is going to make the changes on the website...I have invited him to join us here and on the ning site...I also helped him with info on the other Ovation guitars John owned...very interesting conversation... |
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Location: Colorado | Thanks Mike....I asked him about JDs Mossman Golden era custom....haven't heard yet...stephen...I'd bet Baxendale would like to know too. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | I bet Scott would be interested to hear about it. I wonder if it was pre-Scott buying the company or maybe even one that Scott built. |
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Location: Portland, OR | Saw him here in Portland on a revolving stage. Had all of his records, but I think my favorites were from his last live gig for the forests or somesuch: "For You" and Whispering Jesse". He was a great talent. Are there any recordings from the Chad Mitchell trio days? |
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John Denver's Adamas for sale