You were just hired to play in a bar
Darkbar
Posted 2009-05-11 12:54 PM (#416088)
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You've got to come up with a playlist of 10 songs....your top 10. Okay, what do you choose.

Me first? Okay...

Closer- Keb Mo
Can't Get Started- Ira Gershwin
You Can Close Your Eyes- James Taylor
You're My Better Half- Keith Urban
I'll Be- Edwin McCain
Somewhere in my Broken Heart- Billy Dean
Glory of Love- as done by Keb Mo
Stars- Dan Fogelberg
Raining on Sunday- Keith Urban
Don't Let Me Be Lonely- James Taylor

Let's hear yours. We all might get some new ideas.
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Weaser P
Posted 2009-05-11 1:00 PM (#416089 - in reply to #416088)
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Interesting...great topic.
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Gallerinski
Posted 2009-05-11 1:39 PM (#416090 - in reply to #416088)
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I would grow a grey beard, wear rubber shoes and play the following set:

Desperado
Elderly Woman
Learn To Fly
Wrapped Around Your Finger
Don't Think Twice
Don't Dream It's Over
A Pair Of Chairs
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Losov
Posted 2009-05-11 1:47 PM (#416091 - in reply to #416088)
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Only a ten song bar gig? And you get paid? Nice. OK, I'll go with:

Somethin's Comin' - West Side Story
I Can See Clearly Now - Johnny Nash
Overjoyed - Stevie Wonder
Billy the Kid - Billy Dean
South City Midnight Lady - Doobies
On Broadway - Drifters, Benson
Taxi - Harry Chapin
100 Years - Five for Fighting
Wonderful Tonight - What's that guy's name?
One For My Baby - Sinatra

G'night everybody! Drive safely!
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2009-05-11 1:56 PM (#416092 - in reply to #416088)
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I might be able to do the whole set with Croce songs.
Actually, I'd just ask Karl to send me his song book in the Senior font version. I managed to fake my way through 4 hours of that.
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an4340
Posted 2009-05-11 2:08 PM (#416093 - in reply to #416088)
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands
Musical Youth --- Pass the Dutchie
Plastic Ono Band --- Cold Turkey
Neil Young --- The Needle and the Damage Done
Grandmaster & Melle Mel --- White Lines Funkadelic --- Maggot Brain
Panama Red --- NRPS
The Beach Boys --- Good Vibrations
Jackson Browne --- Cocaine
Eric Clapton --- Cocaine
Velvet Underground --- heroine

G'night and thank you very much.
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Darkbar
Posted 2009-05-11 2:15 PM (#416094 - in reply to #416088)
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Originally posted by Losov:
Only a ten song bar gig? And you get paid? Nice.
Actually, I didn't want people to go overboard. Thought I would get some good, new ideas. (Overjoyed? Love the song, would have never thought of it on guitar, though. See, these are the ideas you get!)
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-05-11 2:45 PM (#416095 - in reply to #416088)
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Needle and the Damage Done- Neil Young
Rockin in the Free World- Neil Young
Homesick- Soul Asylum
Sweet Baby James- James Taylor
Almost Cut My Hair- David Crosby
Ohio- CSNY
Feel Like I'm Fixin' ta Die Rag- Country Joe & The Fish
Mary Jane's Last Dance- Tom Petty
Can't cha See- Marshall Tucker Band
Heard it in a Love Song- Marshall Tucker Band

I just wanted to see if I Know ten songs without just doing everything in the Neil Young songbook.

[And now that I struggled to make that list I'm not satisfied...
I left-out ELP, Pink Floyd, Moody Blues, The Pretenders, Joan Osbourne, Black Sabbath, BOC...]
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Slipkid
Posted 2009-05-11 2:53 PM (#416096 - in reply to #416088)
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I don't know what songs you play so I'll just suggest....
Start out with strong one. One of your best

Mix it up inbetween. Don't play 3 songs in row in the key of G.
Follow the Flirst Law of Cliff and avoid being "strummy, strummy - singy singy".

Finsh up with a strong one. One of your best.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-05-11 3:04 PM (#416097 - in reply to #416088)
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OH? Do I have to SING along with my playing? I'm screwed! :mad:
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2009-05-11 3:18 PM (#416098 - in reply to #416088)
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Brad's advice is interesting because I tend to "practice" by stringing songs in the same key together. One just reminds me of another.
Arthur, Neil Young and Tom Petty can't sing either and they've done alright.
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Slipkid
Posted 2009-05-11 3:32 PM (#416099 - in reply to #416088)
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I might be wrong but I think tho an audience might not think of what key you are playing in, they might sense a kind of sameness in your songs.

If all your songs happen to be in G, capo a few of them up a step or two.
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Captain Lovehandles
Posted 2009-05-11 3:36 PM (#416100 - in reply to #416088)
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I read an article in a mag once about setting up a set list. I think not more than two in a row in the same key would be best. At times, modulate up a step, at times go from a key to the 4th or 5th of that key. If it's an awkward transition, talk a (very) little.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-05-11 4:03 PM (#416101 - in reply to #416088)
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What kind of bar? Gay bar (where Clifford plays), bar association (where Mark plays), a high bar, a low bar, an old folks bar? These things matter....
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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2009-05-11 4:13 PM (#416102 - in reply to #416088)
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Dreary Day Blues by Alison Swan in G with vocals
Misty, instrumental in C
Annoyance by Alison Swan, instrumental in G
If I Only Had a Brain/Over the Rainbow
instrumental in G
Internet Dating by Alison Swan in A with vocals
Jesu Joy of Mans Desiring by J.S. Bach in G
Spring Can Really Hang You Up the Most by Kenny
Burrel, instrumental in C
Sledride by Fred Pike, instrumental in G
Classical piece whose name I can't remember by
Giuliani in Em
When Sunny Gets Blue, in G# with vocals
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Slipkid
Posted 2009-05-11 4:24 PM (#416103 - in reply to #416088)
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Oh... I sidetracked myself.
You want MY OWN ten song list.

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I Can't Explain
Goin' Up the Country
No Sugar / Mother Nature
Crazy Love
Two of Us
Itchycoo Park
Thank You
Something
Elenor
Pretty Woman

And this would be Brian & me.
I don't do no soloing.
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Losov
Posted 2009-05-11 4:31 PM (#416104 - in reply to #416088)
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Originally posted by Slipkid:


Finsh up with a strong one. One of your best.
Nah, that's for a concert. For a bar gig the owner wants you to get 'em out of there at the end of the night. Gotta do one that'll get 'em to pick up their keys and the check.

You also do NOT want one that'll get them to come over and talk to you while you're packing up your stuff.
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Slipkid
Posted 2009-05-11 4:35 PM (#416105 - in reply to #416088)
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For a bar gig the owner wants you to get 'em out of there at the end of the night.
Oh hell... I got a ton of those!
And if if they still won't leave... time to break out the uke! :eek:
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Losov
Posted 2009-05-11 4:38 PM (#416106 - in reply to #416088)
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Is that you in the skirt? I've seen the pictures . . .
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fillhixx
Posted 2009-05-11 4:44 PM (#416107 - in reply to #416088)
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Why don't we get drunk & Sxxxx?
Should Have Married The Dog -original
You Just Like Me Cos I'm Good In Bed
Corona, Corona (reworded Corinna Corinna)
Please Take Your Drunken 15-year-old Girlfriend Home
Kiss This
Nine to Five For Life - original
Show Them To Me
Don't Drink & Dial -original


and close the night with...
Why Don't You All Get Fxxxed!
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2009-05-11 4:53 PM (#416108 - in reply to #416088)
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Originally posted by Losov:
Originally posted by Slipkid:


Finsh up with a strong one. One of your best.
Nah, that's for a concert. For a bar gig the owner wants you to get 'em out of there at the end of the night. Gotta do one that'll get 'em to pick up their keys and the check.

You also do NOT want one that'll get them to come over and talk to you while you're packing up your stuff.
So, so TRUE...

Junge kom bald wieder / Freddy Quin
My ten guitars / Engelbert Humperdinck
Quando quando / E . Humperdinck
Blue spanish eyes / E. Humperdinck
Third man theme / Anton Karas ( when my fingers allow me )
He`ll have to go / Jim Reeves
Love letters in the sand /
Ramona / Blue Diamonds
Tie a yellow ribbon around the old oak tree / Dawn - Tony Orlando
You never can tell / Chuck Berry

..not necessarily in that order..

Vic
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Beal
Posted 2009-05-11 5:04 PM (#416109 - in reply to #416088)
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Both My Girlfriends
Temptation
People, Calling Me
Asheville Train
Broken Gospel Band
That Song
Three for a Quarter
Twelve Frets of Gas
Texas Phone Call
Lost Her Mind
Shine On Me.
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Captain Lovehandles
Posted 2009-05-11 7:25 PM (#416110 - in reply to #416088)
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fillhix, have you ever heard of Eugene Chadbourne? Has anybody? He had a song called "I Hate The Man Who Owns This Bar." That would fit nicely in your set.

It was on his Vermin of the Blues album, along with "Bo Diddley is a Communist" and "Rakeman", played on an electrified garden rake.
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War Eagle
Posted 2009-05-11 7:51 PM (#416111 - in reply to #416088)
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Location: WNC-God's Country
Bohemian Rhapsody
Cocaine
Take this job and shove it
Free Bird

That's an hour and a half !!
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nikon4004
Posted 2009-05-11 9:10 PM (#416112 - in reply to #416088)
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Location: Ohio
Ventura Highway America
I'll have to say I love you in a Song Jim Croce
Dreamers on the Rise John Stewart
Upside Down Jack Johnson
Today Randy Sparks
Rocky Mountain High John Denver
Come Monday Jimmy Buffett
Early Morning Rain Gordon Lightfoot
House at Pooh corner Kenny Loggins


I like the standards thave people can sing along with

Steve
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fillhixx
Posted 2009-05-11 9:23 PM (#416113 - in reply to #416088)
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Originally posted by Captain_Lovehandles:
fillhix, have you ever heard of Eugene Chadbourne?
No. But it's only fair.

I'm pretty sure he hasn't heard of me either! ;)


and, for the record, I've never met a bar owner I didn't love. Even the ones who had to be 'convinced' to pay the band.......
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Mitzdawg
Posted 2009-05-11 9:26 PM (#416114 - in reply to #416088)
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Ummmm

What I like about you - The Romantics
Play it nine more times.

Tell owner to give me $50 or I play it again...
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Hossman21
Posted 2009-05-12 2:14 AM (#416115 - in reply to #416088)
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Night Moves Segar
American Pie Mclean
Plush STP
Save the Last Dance for Me Booble
Southern Cross Crosby Stills Nash
Hallelujah Buckley
Roller Derby Queen Croce
I'm Yours Mraz
The Lime in the Coconut Nilson
Hurts so Good Mellencamp
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Dale Lutes
Posted 2009-05-12 11:58 AM (#416116 - in reply to #416088)
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In no particular order:

Bad Moon Rising - Creedence
Sandman - America
Mohammed’s Radio - Warren Zevon
Roller Derby Queen - Jim Croce
I’m Your Captain/Closer to Home - Grand Funk
Fearless - Pink Floyd
Margaritaville - Jimmy Buffett
The Weight - The Band
Sullivan Street - Counting Crows
Locomotive Breath - Jethro Tull
Lawyers Guns and Money - Warren Zevon
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Omaha
Posted 2009-05-12 12:29 PM (#416117 - in reply to #416088)
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I'm assuming we are talking about a band, not a solo act. And I'm assuming the bar owner wants them dancing...

Substitute - The Who
Smokin' in the Boy's Room - Brownsville Station/Crue
Runnin' Down a Dream - Petty
Saw Her Standing There - Beatles
Moondance - Van Morrison (let them go buy a beer)
Born on the Bayou - Creedence
Fast as You - Dwight Yoakum
Stacy's Mom - Worlds of Wayne
Californication - RHCP
Crossroads - Cream
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Darkbar
Posted 2009-05-12 1:39 PM (#416118 - in reply to #416088)
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Actually I was thinking solo act, but that is a great set....love to see it!
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Dale Lutes
Posted 2009-05-12 1:46 PM (#416119 - in reply to #416088)
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On second thought, I think I'd have to drop Mohammed's Radio and Sullivan Street from my list, given that its a bar crowd. I had 11 songs listed anyway. Probably put in Like a Hurricane and will keep Fearless for one mellow number...
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Losov
Posted 2009-05-12 2:16 PM (#416120 - in reply to #416088)
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It's fun to think about a list, but I just usually know what I want to begin and end each set with.

In front of me on the floor I have a legal sized list of all the songs I'm currently using and a clock of some sort. I pick the next tune while I'm doing the current one.

Kinda keeps you ready for whatever seems appropriate.
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2009-05-12 2:32 PM (#416121 - in reply to #416088)
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Ah , the ring-bind with songs on the floor , guy I know had invested in an electronic music sheet thing , and had it on the floor...not a recommendable thing to do...

Vic
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Losov
Posted 2009-05-12 2:53 PM (#416122 - in reply to #416088)
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No, not a ring binder. Just a songlist that I scan. I don't "read" anything on stage.
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Slipkid
Posted 2009-05-12 2:58 PM (#416123 - in reply to #416088)
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I might be mistaken but it sure seems that so far there is not one duplicate song listed here.

Of course I don't expect any one else has the nerve to play the likes of Itchycoo Park or Elenor.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-05-12 5:07 PM (#416124 - in reply to #416088)
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Everybody, the songs you listed, are they proven songs that you've done before or are they just your favorite songs? I've always found that you better take into account the audience and what they want.

Maybe I'm the only one who feels that way. Or maybe I'm the only one who's bombed because I didn't feel that way......
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2009-05-12 5:38 PM (#416125 - in reply to #416088)
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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
Everybody, the songs you listed, are they proven songs that you've done before or are they just your favorite songs? I've always found that you better take into account the audience and what they want.

Maybe I'm the only one who feels that way. Or maybe I'm the only one who's bombed because I didn't feel that way......
That`s a strong point , I do n`t know how to ascertain what the audience wants , I have no idea what they want , chatting might help , but as a rule people want me to do songs that I do n`t know..
Those were songs that I do with a mic. , I can Not sing , and I try to Avoid it like the plague , which is not allways possible , so.. I grab a mic. , up close , adjust as to get a Big , Warm sound , and try to emulate Jim Reeves.
In the old days , when I was busking , it was a lot easier , no-one was listening anyway.

Vic
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Losov
Posted 2009-05-12 5:51 PM (#416126 - in reply to #416088)
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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
are they proven songs that you've done before or are they just your favorite songs? I've always found that you better take into account the audience and what they want.
Yes, no, yes.

That's why I work with a fluid idea of what I'll play as opposed to a rigid list. Ya gotta have way more material than you're gonna need, and you gotta be prepared to change direction on a dime.
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-05-12 6:14 PM (#416127 - in reply to #416088)
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Just a word of caution...

If ya don't know all the songs in history, don't ask "Got any requests?"

Last year in the Keys, went to a 'beach restaurant' that had a competent solo guitarist/singer. He had a 'Request Tips' labeled jar on a stool in front of the mic.

After more than five requests, I gave up. No Croce, Chapin, Seger, Beatles, etc. Being an amateur player, critic and adult, I wasn't a happy camper.

If you're gonna take any requests, have a list of available songs you can play for the customers' selection. Saw that once in Denver and it went over well. The tip jar overflowed...
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2009-05-12 6:47 PM (#416128 - in reply to #416088)
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There's a local here that does the same thing. He puts his set lists on the tables like menues. He knows a ton of songs and either plays down the lists or plays requests off the lists. He's good and very popular.
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Slipkid
Posted 2009-05-12 7:19 PM (#416129 - in reply to #416088)
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I guess I cheated.
We don't gig.
We learn to play songs we like. If we play for someone we try to pick what we think is the best song for the moment but we don't put the effort into learning something if we don't really like it.
No Freebird here.
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2009-05-12 8:11 PM (#416130 - in reply to #416088)
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Originally posted by Slipkid:

We learn to play songs we like. If we play for someone we try to pick what we think is the best song for the moment but we don't put the effort into learning something if we don't really like it.
No Freebird here.
I am an amateur myself , prefer to be " back up " , I`m not hardboiled enough to go on with a cold fer ex. ,and yet...

Anecdote :

Some time ago , being on holiday in Mallorca , there was this solo-act ( in the hotel-bar ) , who would come on three times a week , one day , the hotel had rented an expensive act , " Brazilian dancers ", who did not turn up , .. quickly Dave was found , who happened to have a day off , but came anyway , dressed in a beachy outfit , ready to roll , when them Brazillians showed up after all , they performed , and it was a success , despite some chaos ... , after the Brazillian show , I fiddled a bit with his 12 str. TAKAMINE , and before I knew it , a mic. was placed in front of me , I became nervous , the joint was equipped with JBL EON`s , which gave a high-pitched snarling sound with a high amount of " hiss " , very Unlike my beautyful ALTEC /JBL /UREI p a .
I clenched my butt , and gobbled up the mic. , now look , I was staying with my kids as a guest in that place , and there I was , making a fool outamyself , but people just wanted a show , no matter who performed , it went okay , and we got free drinks .
And the list ?.. I had none , just whatever popped up in my mind , some songs I could only remember halfly , turning them into medleys...in retrospect it was fun , but in the beginning it was rather scary..

Vic
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-05-12 8:35 PM (#416131 - in reply to #416088)
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Okay... Sorta off topic, maybe...

After reading this stuff yesterday, I decided to take my guitar outside with the Roland Street Cube and play on the corner... As opposed to sitting in my room and playing guitar. (It was a nice day)
I apparently had enough material to play for two hours without repeating myself too much.
(I finally left cuz I had to go to the bathroom, not cuz I ran outta material)
I did NOT sing. (Well, I did sing Almost Cut My Hair, but that's it.)
Nobody threw rocks at me.
I made $15.40, four cigarettes and a music store business card.
Luckily nobody really stood there and watched me for the whole time. (I have No Confidence)
But a woman and her son did sit around and listened while they ate lunch. (Kid gave me $3)
Otherwise people might stop for a few moments, or a song.
A woman from Powell's Books (that's where I was) came out and asked me to stick-around because I was better than whomever usually sits out there. [Is that a Compliment? :confused: ]

That was my first 'busking' experience in Portland.
When my unemployment runs-out, this might be my next job! :mad:

I took the 1860 Balladeer and the output jack was being temperamental.
Next time I will take the 1778T! It is Faithful.
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2009-05-12 9:06 PM (#416132 - in reply to #416088)
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Hey Arthur ..COOL !!!
Sounds like a Great Inauguration , a New Busker is born :)
Welcome to the fore.

Vic

...was it a Revelation ..?..
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Darkbar
Posted 2009-05-12 10:23 PM (#416133 - in reply to #416088)
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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
Everybody, the songs you listed, are they proven songs that you've done before or are they just your favorite songs?
That's what I was getting at. I listed 10 songs that I know real well, that I would be real comfortable with if I got thrown onstage. I was just wondering what others are really playing and practicing...maybe I could pick up something interesting.
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Guitarzannie
Posted 2009-05-14 7:47 AM (#416134 - in reply to #416088)
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Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
I might be able to do the whole set with Croce songs.
Actually, I'd just ask Karl to send me his song book in the Senior font version. I managed to fake my way through 4 hours of that.
Too bad that you live so far away from me. With a Croce set list, I'd definitely come to see you!

If I were playing in a bar, I would have (not necessarily in this order):

"Working at the Car Wash Blues" Jim Croce
"The Hard Way Every Time" Jim Croce
"Rock Me on the Water" Jackson Browne
"I'm Tired" John Hammond Jr.
"Wild about My Lovin'" The Lovin' Spoonful
"Me and Bobby McGee" Janis Joplin
"Something to Talk About" Bonnie Raitt
"Carefree Highway" by Gordon Lightfoot
"In My Life" the Beatles
"Secret Agent Man" Johnny Rivers

Michelle
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MusicMishka
Posted 2009-05-14 8:50 AM (#416135 - in reply to #416088)
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I've always found that you better take into account the audience and what they want.
Actually Paul, you are right on the mark...

I played bars/clubs/hotels/motels/supper clubs (ugh!)/etc. for 20 years...average of 5-6 nights per week, 4 sets per night, 10 song average per set...
I mixed it up w/pop, rock, country and did standards and a few that should have been...I kept it upbeat (no one wants to cry in their beer/beverage all night long)...In the 2nd and 3rd sets I did requests (I maintained a song book of 450 to 500 songs for 18 years) and usually kept the 4th set the same each night...I did finish strong as nearly every place I played was still open for a while after I finished...
I learned a lot over the years as to what worked and what did not...
I learned how to interact with the audience and when to shut up and play...
I learned how to handle drunks and rowdy folks...gave special attention to the regulars and travelers alike...did not drink (or anything else) to the point of ridiculousness or inebriation as that seldom adds anything positive to the music or performance and will get you packing your gear very quickly...I also found a little time to speak with folks about the Ovation instruments I played (usually during breaks or after the show)...
In short, it is your business...either you are serious about it or not...

That said, I do not miss the bar scene at all...but I am grateful for the years I was able to play upwards of 6 nights per week (sometimes 7) and have a chance to play the music I played and the guitars I owned for so many folks...it was a "long strange trip" to copy a phrase.

If you choose to do it, then enjoy it but take into account that "as you climb the ladder of success, be very nice to every one you meet, because you will meet those same people on the way back down"...you'll see..... ;)

Now, break a leg....
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2009-05-14 9:05 AM (#416136 - in reply to #416088)
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First, if it was anything other than a blues or jazz club, I'd decline the offer. If I didn't decline the offer, then I'd walk in with a looper, lay down different blues tracks (majors, minors, shuffles, funk, slow gospel, etc.) and noodle over them. The tracks would be pretty standard fare, but the noodling would be all original, all ad lib.
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TAFKAR
Posted 2009-05-14 9:12 AM (#416137 - in reply to #416088)
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I get hired to play in a bar. Me: "Am I on Candid Camera?"
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twistedlim
Posted 2009-05-14 9:37 AM (#416138 - in reply to #416088)
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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
What kind of bar? Gay bar (where Clifford plays), bar association (where Mark plays), a high bar, a low bar, an old folks bar? These things matter....
Ahh my fist laugh for today, thanks!

For me, not in any particular order:

-The Boxer
-Amie (w/falling in and out of love)
-If you could read my mind
-I miss Mary
-Time of your Life (Good Riddance)
-House at Pooh Corner
-Garden Party
-Let it Be
-You can close your eyes
-Peace Train (although I still need work on this one, errr... aahh... more work than I need on the others :) )
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2009-05-14 10:44 AM (#416139 - in reply to #416088)
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OK, Michelle, here's the Croce set list:
Time In a Bottle
New York's Not My Home
Hard Way Every Time
Alabama Rain
I'll Have to Say I Love You
Photographs and Memories
Dreamin' Again
It Doesn't Have to Be That Way (a work in progress)
Operator
I guess I need another one.
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Guitarzannie
Posted 2009-05-14 2:50 PM (#416140 - in reply to #416088)
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Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
OK, Michelle, here's the Croce set list:
Time In a Bottle
New York's Not My Home
Hard Way Every Time
Alabama Rain
I'll Have to Say I Love You
Photographs and Memories
Dreamin' Again
It Doesn't Have to Be That Way (a work in progress)
Operator
I guess I need another one.
Mark, how about:

Roller Derby Queen
Speedball Tucker
Lover's Cross (on the DVD I have, this song best represents the kind of tone I'm looking for in a guitar)


Michelle
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2009-05-14 4:34 PM (#416141 - in reply to #416088)
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The first 2, Leroy Brown and Don't Mess Around with Jim, are songs of his that I have no intention of learning. I just don't really like them. I like the guitar in Lover's Cross, but my Huttlinger dvd has another song with Dream something or other that I was learning and I've Got a Name, that I need to learn. I've Got a Name has an alternate tuning and I never seem to get around to those.
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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2009-05-14 5:05 PM (#416142 - in reply to #416088)
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There's a song he did called "Age" that I used to do in a band I was in about a hundred years ago. Great lyrics!
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-05-14 6:41 PM (#416143 - in reply to #416088)
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Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
The first 2, Leroy Brown and Don't Mess Around with Jim, are songs of his that I have no intention of learning. I just don't really like them.
AH HA! I'm not the only one... it's been soooo lonely...

The rest of his music I thoroughly enjoy!
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-05-14 11:54 PM (#416144 - in reply to #416088)
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Originally posted by Guitarzannie:
"Rock Me on the Water" Jackson Browne
"Something to Talk About" Bonnie Raitt
"Carefree Highway" by Gordon Lightfoot
Love your list, especially these three! Ya don't hear 'em very often any more.

I can't believe I didn't have "Rock Me on..." in my library. Great song.

Now I need to find a valid tab. I'm having trouble in playing along with the vids...
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Joe Rotax
Posted 2009-05-15 12:57 AM (#416145 - in reply to #416088)
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Water In The Fuel
The Cold War
Green Rolling Hills
I 75
Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner
Turkish Song Of The Damned
Goodbye
The Mercenary Song
Small Motors
Copperhead Road
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Losov
Posted 2009-05-15 2:17 AM (#416146 - in reply to #416088)
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Originally posted by 2ifbyC:
Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
The first 2, Leroy Brown and Don't Mess Around with Jim, are songs of his that I have no intention of learning. I just don't really like them.
AH HA! I'm not the only one... it's been soooo lonely...

The rest of his music I thoroughly enjoy!
Make that three. Similarly, I also thought at the time whoever that was doing "Piano Man" wouldn't be back.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-05-15 2:32 AM (#416147 - in reply to #416088)
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I believe that both of those songs were meant to be Funny?

Not really to be taken as Topical or Heartfelt expressions of his innermost feelings. Y'know?
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PEZ
Posted 2009-05-15 2:37 AM (#416148 - in reply to #416088)
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Originally posted by an4340:
Musical Youth --- Pass the Dutchie
Plastic Ono Band --- Cold Turkey
Neil Young --- The Needle and the Damage Done
Grandmaster & Melle Mel --- White Lines Funkadelic --- Maggot Brain
Panama Red --- NRPS
The Beach Boys --- Good Vibrations
Jackson Browne --- Cocaine
Eric Clapton --- Cocaine
Velvet Underground --- heroine

G'night and thank you very much.
Where this Bar????
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PEZ
Posted 2009-05-15 3:03 AM (#416149 - in reply to #416088)
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Well if all covers
I do more than 10 because some are very short

Busted
Dead Skunk
Me & Bobby Mcgee
Dead flowers
Act Naturally
The Gambler
Wreck ole 97
Momma tried
Battle of New Orleans
If I were a carpenter
Long Black Vail
Pistol Packin Momma
Delta Dawn
Wings of a Dove
You win Again
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Joe Rotax
Posted 2009-05-15 4:41 AM (#416150 - in reply to #416088)
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No. 11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMknbUBLu5E

Three chords and something to say wins every time.
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Guitarzannie
Posted 2009-05-15 5:24 AM (#416151 - in reply to #416088)
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Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
The first 2, Leroy Brown and Don't Mess Around with Jim, are songs of his that I have no intention of learning. I just don't really like them. I like the guitar in Lover's Cross, but my Huttlinger dvd has another song with Dream something or other that I was learning and I've Got a Name, that I need to learn. I've Got a Name has an alternate tuning and I never seem to get around to those.
Yes, "I Got a Name" is a great song. I like a lot of Jim's stuff, but I'm finding that I like his "barroom" stuff more than anything else.

Michelle
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Guitarzannie
Posted 2009-05-15 5:28 AM (#416152 - in reply to #416088)
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Now I need to find a valid tab. I'm having trouble in playing along with the vids... [/QB]
Thanks!

The one vid I found of Jackson Browne doing "Rock Me on the Water" was from a "Soundstage" performance. However, the video and audio were out of sync, and it looked like a bad Chinese movie! The song is still powerful, IMHO.

Johnnie Rivers has a cool version of "Rock Me on the Water", but I don't think there is a video of that song.

Michelle
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Darkbar
Posted 2009-05-15 7:12 AM (#416153 - in reply to #416088)
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Originally posted by 2ifbyC:

I can't believe I didn't have "Rock Me on..." in my library. Great song.

Now I need to find a valid tab. I'm having trouble in playing along with the vids... [/QB]
Rock me chords...
G, Em, C, G,
C, G, F, C, D
G, Em, C, A
G/D, D, Em, C, G

...Oh, just call me if you want them, Iffy
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Losov
Posted 2009-05-15 10:04 AM (#416154 - in reply to #416088)
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Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
I believe that both of those songs were meant to be Funny?

He had a whole lot of funny stuff that I thought was better, "Workin' at the Carwash Blues" and "Roller Derby Queen" to name two.
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Waskel
Posted 2009-05-15 10:14 AM (#416155 - in reply to #416088)
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Originally posted by 2ifbyC:

I can't believe I didn't have "Rock Me on..." in my library. Great song.
"Love Needs A Heart" is another great one.
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Slipkid
Posted 2009-05-15 10:20 AM (#416156 - in reply to #416088)
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Ha!
Me too Iffy.
Brian & I plan on giving "Rock Me" a try.
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Guitarzannie
Posted 2009-05-15 10:59 AM (#416157 - in reply to #416088)
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Originally posted by Losov:
Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
I believe that both of those songs were meant to be Funny?

He had a whole lot of funny stuff that I thought was better, "Workin' at the Carwash Blues" and "Roller Derby Queen" to name two.
I also like Speedball Tucker. I love the line "Driver have you been blind? 95 is the route you were on, not a speed limit sign!" That line made me laugh.

At first I didn't like it because of the weird little lead he put in there.

But then I realized that he was probably trying to give everyone an audio version of a "west coast turnaround" in the same way he gave an audio version of sands running through an hourglass like he did in the ending of "Time in a Bottle."

In a way, the ending of "Time in a Bottle" kind of creeps me out. Just reminds me of how sudden Jim and Maury's lives were cut short in an instant.

Michelle
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