Ultimate SSB ovation
flag72
Posted 2009-05-13 11:39 PM (#415692)
Subject: Ultimate SSB ovation


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Hi guys and gals
in youre opinion which SSB Ovation multi soundhole as the best sound unplug and plug in.hi have a Elite Special S868 that plays :confused: it needs a good work out at my luthier,also i have a CS257 suppose to be a leser model but mind as low action sound good unplug and sounds very good plug in.I also like the OP30 pre-amp.so what model is the best :confused:
again thank you
Daniel ;)
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Gallerinski
Posted 2009-05-14 12:16 AM (#415693 - in reply to #415692)
Subject: Re: Ultimate SSB ovation
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Originally posted by flag72:
in youre opinion which SSB Ovation multi soundhole as the best sound unplug
none
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-05-14 12:40 AM (#415694 - in reply to #415692)
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Originally posted by Gallerinski:
none
Second the motion...
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dweezil
Posted 2009-05-14 4:43 AM (#415695 - in reply to #415692)
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OK let's actually try and be helpful ;)

I've had three of the 'best' SSBs.

1. 1984 Collectors - argued to be the best or at least the loudest SSB wood tops Ovation ever made. Loved it but got the 5868 Walnut and couldn't justify keeping both.

2. 5868 Walnut - very similar in spec to the '84C, did an A/B comparison and the 5868 won out. Then I thought I'd get a Adamas 1881 so this went.

3. Adamas 1881. The one I got had been repaired and just didn't feel right. I'm on the lookout for another.

Search ebay there's a 84C and 5868 on there right now. Buy both at reasonable prices and sell the one(s) you don't like :)

Interestingly I had an Elite Special S868 also and whilst it was nice it wasn't as good as the above three.

Some people really have a downer on the SSBs but they do serve a purpose, great practise guitar, very easy to play and plugged in sound great. Yeah they sound a but thin especially in the bass end unplugged but it's horses for courses.

Hope that helps.

Oh and Adrian Legg played a SSB for years and years :)
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Beal
Posted 2009-05-14 8:45 AM (#415696 - in reply to #415692)
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2009-05-14 8:52 AM (#415697 - in reply to #415692)
Subject: Re: Ultimate SSB ovation



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I have 5 SSBs and quite frankly, they all sound just so-so unplugged. They are intended to be plugged in to maximize their potential.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2009-05-14 9:18 AM (#415698 - in reply to #415692)
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Yes, they were intended to be plugged in: John Denver used a 1858 12 on stage for several years...I have had 5 or 6 over the years and still have a 1868-6p which I love...

In the sound test I did a last year, the Snake (now owned by Damon) and the -6p were in the test and placed consistantly high in the voting...they were miked not plugged in...

The volume may not as great but they're great guitars...
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Gallerinski
Posted 2009-05-14 9:36 AM (#415699 - in reply to #415692)
Subject: Re: Ultimate SSB ovation
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Originally posted by dweezil:
OK let's actually try and be helpful
The poster requested an opinion. I gave one.

Some folks like SSB. That's great. I don't. The 8-10 that I've owned all failed to impress me becuase I wanted a full bodied acoustic sound and that's not what they are designed for. It's like trying to dig a hole with a rake. Doesn't mean a rake isn't a great tool. What's the best tool to dig a hole with. It's not a rake. Go buy a shovel.
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dweezil
Posted 2009-05-14 9:43 AM (#415700 - in reply to #415692)
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Adrian Legg managed to dig some pretty impressive holes with his rake ;)
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Gallerinski
Posted 2009-05-14 10:01 AM (#415701 - in reply to #415692)
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Many people dug impressive holes with a rake, but did any of them do it unplugged?

Don't get me wrong, if I was playing gigs onstage I would have a SSB in a heartbeat. I've owned them all: SSB custom legends, SSB Elites, SSB 1881s, hell I even had a SSB Adamas I. They were all outstanding plugged in guitars which I would proudly use for that purpose. And they all sucked dead donkey dick acoustically.

OUT.
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Mitchrx
Posted 2009-05-14 10:06 AM (#415702 - in reply to #415692)
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I have to agree with Dave/Gallerinski. I've never played an SSB that really sounded good acoutically. My son recently returned from college with his Elite 6778-LX which is a mid-depth. In terms of comfort and sound that guitar is just fantastic. I'd skip the SSB's. The mid-depth Elites, either the LX or T models, are the way to go.
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Beal
Posted 2009-05-14 10:19 AM (#415703 - in reply to #415692)
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Adrian was always plugged in.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2009-05-14 10:22 AM (#415704 - in reply to #415692)
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I've liked the sound of the 83 Collector's and the Custom Balladeer, but they just don't have any oomph on the bass strings. Sold my mid-bowl, gave the 83 to my daughter and the CB is on loan to my other daughter's boyfriend. I just play acoustic guitar and rarely plug in, so I just don't see a need to play an SSB. I have a bunch of deep bowls that make me smile.
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flag72
Posted 2009-05-14 11:06 AM (#415705 - in reply to #415692)
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BUT if its to be plug'd in which is the best???
Daniel :confused:
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dweezil
Posted 2009-05-14 11:24 AM (#415706 - in reply to #415692)
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What do you mean by "best"?
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flag72
Posted 2009-05-14 11:31 AM (#415707 - in reply to #415692)
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simple!!! which Ovation multi soundhole sound the
best plug in.I no that a SSB not plug isnt a great guitar but which model sounds great
plud in????
Daniel ;)
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dweezil
Posted 2009-05-14 11:41 AM (#415708 - in reply to #415692)
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But the sound of a 1881 plugged in for example is very different to that of a 84C plugged in. Not better or worse, just different.
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Arnaud
Posted 2009-05-14 1:09 PM (#415709 - in reply to #415692)
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1881
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HoHo
Posted 2009-05-14 1:13 PM (#415710 - in reply to #415692)
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Best unplugged SSB: 1984 Collectors, Adamas 1897
Plugged-in SSB: They are ALL good.
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dweezil
Posted 2009-05-14 1:17 PM (#415711 - in reply to #415692)
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Adamas 1897 ? Wassat?
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HoHo
Posted 2009-05-14 1:26 PM (#415712 - in reply to #415692)
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Adamas 1897
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dweezil
Posted 2009-05-14 1:30 PM (#415713 - in reply to #415692)
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ah SMT. Ebony fretboard though :)
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2009-05-14 2:21 PM (#415714 - in reply to #415692)
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O.k, plugged in, my order of preference for those I own is as follows . . .

1. Adamas 1881
2. Adamas wood-topped proto
3. Ovation 1547 proto (very close to No. 2)
4. Ovation 1866 12
5. Ovation 1567 Legend
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gulfcoast
Posted 2009-05-14 2:54 PM (#415715 - in reply to #415692)
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I`ll have to say almost always a med/deep will sound better but my old 92 col would stay in the room with a D28 unplugged anyday. It didn`t sound as deep but it was as loud. My old 1868 sounds really good but it won`t make your ears bleed.
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Randy22
Posted 2009-05-14 8:10 PM (#415716 - in reply to #415692)
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1869 usually sounds good (relatively speaking) due to the high quality top. I also have an 1868 cedar top (production run variation of the 93C) that I like the sound of.

Randy
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tpa
Posted 2009-05-15 11:26 AM (#415717 - in reply to #415692)
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I briefly tried a 1867 Legend (shallow) and my impression was that the unplugged sound was not inferior to a 1597 SMT (medium). It was not side-by-side and strings means a lot ... but I was very close to a buy. The Legend however comes with central soundhole.
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flag72
Posted 2009-05-17 10:47 AM (#415718 - in reply to #415692)
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thank you for the many reply's.ive learn that a ssb is not a great unplug guitar but it does sound great plug in, my CS257 plays and sound very good.
hope when my S868 comes back from the luthier it play's as good as my CS257.later I will post a question about,
contour bowl VS med dept bowl :D
Daniel
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edensharvest
Posted 2009-05-18 12:11 AM (#415719 - in reply to #415692)
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Personally, if you want a great SSB guitar for stage that will have a decent quality sound unplugged, I'd go for the 1869 Custom Legend. I've owned four of them, along with an 1867, 1868, and 1881, and despite the lack of major volume, for "sweetness" of sound the 1869's have a major advantage. It's got to be something about the quality of materials, but it's a very noticeable difference.

Watch ebay for a mid-90's 1869, and you'll be surprised how little you can get one for if you're patient.
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1617
Posted 2009-05-18 1:32 AM (#415720 - in reply to #415692)
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This is one passionate subject!!! Donkey talk and all. I briefly encountered an '85 Collector and I can say that the SSB just has a different character. Playing a deep for many years and then owning a shallow old style the an SSB, I'd say the character of each individual instrument is the key. I play bass and for many years of trying Fender P basses I thought they were the most God awful things - then I met my '65 at a pawn shop in Indianapolis. And that's also where I got the stinkiest farts from the Waffle House. Any ways - each instrument is different and unique much like a woman. They all have the same equipment . . . but . . .
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