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Location: VENISE-EN-QUEBEC CANADA | Hello again
most of you no that I ask a lot of question,Ive been playing guitar for a little over a year(started March 10 2008)now,I started with dunlop 38mm pick's very soft,but I wonder is it a good practice or should i start playing with stiffer pick's, I have some thicker pick's that seem's to make my guitar sound louder but im not use to them and sometime stroke more than 1 string when picking.so is it a good habit of playing with thicker pick's
you the expert give me youre opinion
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Location: Ohio | Buy a handfull of different picks and just try them all till you fild the one oyu line.
I;ve been using Dunlop TORTEX(Delrin) picks for a long time and love them. Seem like if your hands and fingers perspire, they stick better. I use the green one's. Not sure of the thickness.
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Location: New Jersey, USA | I have a huge collection of picks and tend to obsess over the topic. I keep about a dozen picks on the table where I sit and play.
That said, thin picks are good for strumming, but lousy for single note playing or arpeggiating. If you like Dunlop, try the Tortex yellow picks which are .73mm; these are a good all around choice. I also use the orange .60mm. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | I think a really overlooked topic. I use different picks depending on the style and tone/sound I'm looking for. For Hard Rock where I need definition of the notes, I tend to go with an Adamas Graphite pick, and I hold it verticle. It allows for a very light touch, very fast, up'n down, cause it glides over the string, you're not really "picking" it... but also gets great definition even during heavy distortion.
For big powerchords... I use a thin pick. For things in between... a medium weight pick.
I don't necessarily change picks if I'm playing... they all work just fine for everything... but if I'm going to be playing a bunch of one style... I'd grab the right pick if it was handy. Otherwise... it's just a matter of some things will be easier and sound better than others. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | I was amazed a few years ago when I got away from the medium Cool Pics I had used for years and starting trying and buying different types. It seems that different materials, thickness, and even shape make a fairly distinct difference in the sound the guitar makes.
I am like rpguitar cause in my studio I now have about 10-12 pics of different thickness and materials that are easily within reach. What sounded good to me yesterday may not speak to me the same way today so I just reach for another till I find the sound I am looking for.
I have gravitated towards using heavier pics...in the 1.0mm to 1.5mm range. |
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | Nikon, the green tortex are .88.
I am a fingerpicker, but on occasion I do use a pick. I like the Dunlop nylon picks in .73. Some guitars sound better with nylon, and some sound better with plastic of the same thickness. Yet another variable to consider. |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | There are several YT vids covering this topic. Here's just ONE .
At AI, Matt also demonstrated the variance in tone based upon how much pick is exposed. |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | Tortex yellow |
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Location: New Jersey, USA | Tortex yellow are very interesting because while they are only medium thickness (.73mm), they have a softer attack than many others of their ilk. And the green .88mm do not improve on that - it's unique to the yellows.
For Ovations I tend to use a slightly thinner pick than on other guitars because of the tendency for some O's to sound muddy or bassy. |
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Location: Michigan | I am just starting to use picks again. I like the meduim coolpics but then again I am just starting out with them. I have started use a thumb pick much to my distaste since my thumb nail just will not seem to take the punishment of playing everyday without splitting. I have noticed a huge difference in the different kinds and thicknesses in the tone that the strings produce. I have pretty much settled on the "slickpick" thumb pick but use the heavy as the medium and light tend to give my bass strings too much ooomph and it can over power the strings I pick with my other fingernails. |
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Location: GA USA | I have grown very attached to
Beggin hooked me on them. |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | I agree with Miles. This is a subject that doesn't come up very often, and not usually to any degree of depth. I use thin for infrequent strumming, about 5% of the time, and Fender 351 mediums (and Martin and anything else in that shape and thickness) for everything else. Have been using this general shape for many years. Somewhere along the line, I picked up hundreds of these medium Fenders in the fux tortoise color. Guitar manufacturer coffee mugs serve as excellent storage containers for picks. A trip to the NAMM show produced no less than another 100 or so more freebie picks of all shapes and sizes as part of the vendor swag. Much of your volume is shaped by your picking technique. A tight grip produces more volume, a lighter grip produces less. I end up dropping a lot of picks because I sometimes hold the pick very lightly. On the other hand, I rarely break a pick, and almost never the mediums. They'll wear out before breaking. |
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Location: SoCal | Fender mediums / OFC cream color picks. Same basic pick. Use them for all guitars all styles.
The reason? A few years ago, I tried different picks and never got comfortable with anything. Then went back to the medium picks and wasn't comfortable with them. Took most of a year to get back to where I started.
They seem to be the best compromise for strumming, picking, etc.
Miles, can you still get the OFC picks made? They are, of course, my first choice. Something about the dye of the overall pick and then what was used to print the OFC logo just cause those picks to sonically sound better and balance right.... |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Gibson H as a standard , with CORK rings glued on either side , makes for a good ,yet relaxed grip.
Having a standard makes for easy comparison.
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Location: Utica, NY | For all of my electric playing I use the heaviest I can get, currently Dunlop Ultex 1.14. Buy them by the bag. But I am watching this closely since I am new to the acoustic side as well.
My initial thought was a thin for strumming as I like the sweeping-over-the-strings sound it adds. But as it's been pointed out lead, arpeggiating, etc they're not so good. maybe no single answer. Maybe I'll be banging on the O with a quarter.... We'll see. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Much like the afore mentioned brain picks...
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Location: New Jersey, USA | With a thinner pick, one can rotate it clockwise to a slight angle (15 degrees maybe) to compensate for its flimsiness when playing single note lines. This was Pat Metheny's trick. He couldn't find heavy picks in his hometown when he started playing. So he turned and bent a Fender thin slightly to increase its rigidity. |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Originally posted by FlicKreno aka Solid Top:
[QB]with CORK rings glued on either side /QB] Vic,
When I first started learning guitar (early '60s), I used a large rounded tips triangular, very slightly cupped med Gibby pick that had a cork ring on the concave side. Haven't seen any in decades.
I may have to invest in cork... |
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Location: Sydney, Australia | +1 on the Adamas pick for single note stuff. Like Miles said, it just sort of slides over the strings. For more strummy stuff I use a Dunlop white 0.46mm. Years ago I used the 0.38s but graduated up a step for general strumming. For a combination of strumming/accentuating single notes I use something a bit harder. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Red Bear tri tip. Thick. |
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Location: closely held secret | Beal, is that the hockey puck with corners you were showing us at AI? :D |
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Location: Michigan | Originally posted by Captain_Lovehandles:
I have grown very attached to
Beggin hooked me on them. |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Originally posted by 2ifbyC:
Originally posted by FlicKreno aka Solid Top:
[QB]with CORK rings glued on either side /QB] Vic,
When I first started learning guitar (early '60s), I used a large rounded tips triangular, very slightly cupped med Gibby pick that had a cork ring on the concave side. Haven't seen any in decades.
I may have to invest in cork...
Ye` know , back in the days , when I did n`t know where to get cork , but had cork-tipped cigs., I would peel-off the cork from the filter , and glue it on , experimented with different glues , so 1 day , I tried something new , .. " Lock-tite " .. which was a ten-second adhesive and was true to it`s name , being a little careless , I managed to glue my thumb and index finger to it....
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Originally posted by FlicKreno aka Solid Top:
glue my thumb and index finger to it That's my next step!  |
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Location: East Tennessee | Rarely use picks but when I do I use Peavey 1.14mm. One side is textured for a good grip. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Originally posted by The Wabbit Formerly Known As Waskel:
Beal, is that the hockey puck with corners you were showing us at AI? :D That would be the one! |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | That one could have been the D'Andrea 1.5 thick Pro-plec. I use those too, but with one corner beveled and pointed, the other two corners I leave rounded.
They are nice cause they only cost about $.60 each and it's no big deal to loose one, especially when I bought 500 to get the imprint done.
Loosing a Red Bear is not a happy experience at $20 or $25 a pop. |
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Location: Maryland | SO does anyone make a three + sided pick?
thin, med , firm? |
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Location: Colorado | I've been using Tortex picks for a long time. I prefer the orange and the yellow. I really would like to find some Snarling Dogs though. |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Beal,
My 'Bill Kaman' PRO PLEC pick resides next to my cherished 'Nam P-38 in my wallet. If I ever get another BK, I'll actually try to use it! ;) |
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| Blue 1 mm Tortex here. I found that thin picks were a big mistake for me anyway. More control with a heavier pick and I can back off to mellow out the sound if needed but you can never make a thin pick sound anything but thin. |
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Location: Cork, Ireland | Mainly a strummer, I settled a long time ago on the Dunlop grey nylon 0.6mm. http://www.jimdunlop.com/index.php?page=products/pip&id=1&pmh=produ...
Just the right shape, size, thickness, flexibility. Tried many others but always back to those. Yet I never buy in bulk, thus always have an excuse to visit a music shop.
For such a small, inexpensive item, people have very definite preferences (not unlike socks...) |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Lots of different flavors here. That's how it should be. |
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Location: VENISE-EN-QUEBEC CANADA | I think this is my best post so far,ive learn a lot about pick's cant wait to go to Steve music store in montreal a buy some pick's.
again thank you for the many reply
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Location: enid, ok | I'm with Miles on this. I like stone picks for most things, but different picks do different things; I just adjust. Don't get me wrong, I suck. But I quit caring much about the pick a long time ago. I'll use my fingers, and sometimes I even think it sounds better. It's just a tool, and I'm not particular. Now guitars, also tools, are another matter altogether... |
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Location: Hopkinton, MA | The advise to get a bunch and try them all out is great.
I have one of these $5 free accessories every month cards from one of the music stores that I'm in all the time. If I don't need strings, I get picks. I'll sometimes get something random. I now use a bunch of different ones and they're all over the map.....
Dunlop 0.71 (purple) that are a bit below medium, I use most often. I've been playing a bit more U2 stuff and since The Edge does it...I play with the pick backwards (point away from the strings). I'll use a medium for lots of strumming. I also have some Dunlop Jazz 2 and Jazz 3 picks for very fast flat picking (Thunderstruck by AC/DC) and they work well. I've used some very light, thin ones at times, but don't tend to use them a lot.
I have to add that the majority of my playing is electric using 9's, 10's or 11's as my top string. I bend a lot. (that doesn't sound right)
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Location: Marlton, NJ | I also have had gripping problems in the past - Beggin turned me on to the Snarling Dogs - which help alot. I use either the 1mm grey or the 1.14mm orange.
Lately I've been using the OFC blues as well when I play electrics. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Yes, I assume can still get the OFC picks.. I'm about due for another order. They are from Dunlop who makes most of the pics out there. I really like those picks too. When I got the samples (before the logo even) I just thought it's a good pick. Not too thin... but maybe a little thinner than a standard medium. |
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Location: London, UK | Which pick should I be playing with?
- The one that just dropped inside the sound hole :( |
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Location: Tennessee | Originally posted by Beal:
That one could have been the D'Andrea 1.5 thick Pro-plec. I use those too, but with one corner beveled and pointed, the other two corners I leave rounded.
I got one of those and they are real nice ... but I'm still getting used to it, how the play with it, etc. I find it real hard to strum with except when I'm playing the TakBG which is a real good guitar to dig in with. The other place it's good is playing on my electrics with a lot of single note stuff. But then again, I'm still learning how to with that big ole fat thing.
I played fender mediums in the 351 shape for a long time (except for using thins from time to time on the 12 string), but really like the .63mm Acetal picks from Steve Clayton out of Oregon. They've got a snap to them that works with how I play, and have just enough substance to them to get some volume out of most of my guitars. So somebody I know got a special order of them made as a birthday present for me. :cool:
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Location: Millville, NJ | I almost always use Fender Heavys.
Lately, I've been using SURF PICKS.
They are made of a very dense wood...
Rock hard....very unique tone.
I bought them on a whim...2 for $10.
Not cheap as far as picks go....
But I'm glad I took a chance.
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Location: Utah | Bobbo, those are the coolest picks ever. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | so's the wife! (I assume Kim got them for you)! |
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Location: Reisterstown, Maryland | I like the Jim Dunlop Big Stubby in 1.0 and 1.5mm sizes. I also like the Triangled shaped ones too. With older fingers that have a mind of their own at times, I like the way these just go with my flow.
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Location: Chicago | Green Tortex (.88) exclusively now for about 3 years.
It's a nice compromise of what Roger says: If you hold it firmly it will give a nice tone for lines and hard "stabs," but if you lighten up, it's great for gentle strumming. |
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Location: Reisterstown, Maryland | Originally posted by Organized Confusion:
SO does anyone make a three + sided pick?
thin, med , firm? Yes, the Dunlop Stubby's. I love the triangled ones and I think they come in all the sizes.
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Location: VENISE-EN-QUEBEC CANADA | well went to my local musique store and bought some pic's tortex orange and yellow and dunlop grey.the one I like best is the grey just thick enough
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which pick I should be playing with!!!