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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | I just watched this disturbing movie about the music industry.
Of course they talked bad about the record label's corporate culture and Clear Channel.
They talk to Bonnie Raitt and Erykah Badu a bunch. Plus Elvis Costello and Eric Clapton and others.
There is a piece in there where they just Grab this teenage girl outta nowhere, grab a songwriter, and create a passible MTV persona in a coupla hours. Talk about looks as opposed to talent.
One dude keeps mentioning how Ray Charles or Stevie Wonder wouldn't even get a shot nowadays.
I remember an old-style radio DJ commenting that with the new 'Playlist' radio, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Pink Floyd, Joe Cocker, Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix, (name a band) wouldn't even get a shot nowadays because they wouldn't know which format to fit them into...
Scary...
Anyway, if you have a good internet connection and 88 minutes to spare you can watch it HERE!
(with limited commercial interruption)
If all you've got is dial-up... I'm sorry! :( |
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| But when Skynard and Joplin got started, Bing Crosby wouldn't have gotten a second look. What we call the music business is aptly named; it's not, and as far as I can tell, never has been about art. It's about what somebody thinks will sell. |
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Location: Tennessee | The "music industry" is dying and close to flatlining. Real music is getting into the mainstream in other ways now. In my opinion, the music industry committed suicide. No different thatn most of our car companies. My kids get their exposure to new music and new artists in far different ways than we did. The only genre still left that is controlled by the corporate music people is modern country or whatever they call it. Everything else is all about the independents and self promotion. |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Originally posted by Losov:
But when Skynard and Joplin got started, Bing Crosby wouldn't have gotten a second look. I beg to differ, and Michael Buble probably does too. Harry Connick Jr. might feel similarly....
It's different times, as it's always been. There's always room for talent that won't take yes OR no for an answer. Just ask Jonathan Coulton |
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| You forgot Josh Groban. I differ with your difference. There are simply too few of these kinds of acts getting any significant attention. I am, however, biased. My favorite XM channel is the Sinatra Channel. |
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Location: closely held secret | It were binary bits what killed the music industry.
They saw the CD as a huge new revenue stream, and didn't have the foresight to see what was coming... |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | the music business is no more dead than the car industry. those making music and cars that the consumer wants are doing okay......as long as the government doesn't keep giving money to a corpse. |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Originally posted by Losov:
My favorite XM channel is the Sinatra Channel. you say you can't ever get what you want.
but if you tune it in
you might just find
you get what you need |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | I just got through watching this. Thanks for the link OMG.
Really really depressing....... |
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| Agreed. The music business is doing just fine given the economy. Much of its product is not to my taste, but I would decline the office of "Minister of Music" were it offered.
The music industry, like all industries, should be market driven. |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Only available within the USA .. TYPICAL !!
Vic |
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Location: Utah | It seems that the business model is changing in ways that we don't really comprehend yet. The old record contract doesn't make any sense at all. Touring doesn't pay what it used to. Local gigging bands can't make a decent living. New artists have to do all their own promotion and bring their audience to the venue.
Partly it is the age 21 drinking age and a general reduction in going to bars. The big country dance bars of the 80's are long gone, and the corner bar doesn't pay a band $500 to play on Saturday night.
Yet there is music everywhere. There is a big demand for music on mp3 players and in tv show sound tracks.
Someone just has to figure out how to convert the new reality into a living wage for musicians. |
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Location: Alagoas, Brazil | "We´re sorry, currently our video library can only be streamed within the United States"
"Our intention is to make Hulu's growing content lineup available worldwide as quickly as possible. This requires working with the content owners to clear the rights for each show or film in each specific region. It's a long-term project. We don't have a definite timeline yet, but we'll continue to work to make it happen."
So, I couldn´t watch it. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | My apologies to our Worldwide Membership.
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Dear Arthur ,
What can I do with an apology .. ? ..
Offer me Fame and Fortune instead ..
Vic
.. a record deal and a Caddy to begin with would do nicely .. |
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Location: Yalova/Turkey | You could use a programm like smarthide in order to hide your ip and show an ip from the USA... It helps, I watched it from Turkey...
Regards, Chris. |
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Location: Yalova/Turkey | I always thought I was simply getting too old and conservative, now I got a better explanation. Thanks Old Man Arthur... :) |
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"Before The Music Dies" - a movie