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Carved headstocks, love 'em or hate 'em?
muzza
Posted 2008-04-11 9:52 PM (#45428)
Subject: Carved headstocks, love 'em or hate 'em?



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Do you love the carved headstocks or hate them, or somewhere in the middle?
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First Alternate
Posted 2008-04-12 4:55 AM (#45429 - in reply to #45428)
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I'm not a fan of a lot of bling on a guitar. It irritated me that the 1869 came with a carved bridge. To my eye, the most beautiful Kaman instrument is the Adamas 2080.
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schroeder
Posted 2008-04-12 6:24 AM (#45430 - in reply to #45428)
Subject: Re: Carved headstocks, love 'em or hate 'em?


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I can't believe anybody likes 'em let alone the majority.
The narrow slot on the ute is the best headstock, then the good old standard Ovation.
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schroeder
Posted 2008-04-12 6:34 AM (#45431 - in reply to #45428)
Subject: Re: Carved headstocks, love 'em or hate 'em?


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I can't believe anybody likes 'em let alone the majority.
The narrow slot on the ute is the best headstock, then the good old standard Ovation.
I don't like carved bridges either.
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Jewel's Mom a/k/a Joisey Goil #1
Posted 2008-04-12 7:02 AM (#45432 - in reply to #45428)
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Would I want all of the headstocks that way? No. But, since taste is so subjective, there are some guitars that just wouldn't seem "right" somehow without them (probably because I'm so used to seeing certain models that way.)

--Karen
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schroeder
Posted 2008-04-12 7:12 AM (#45433 - in reply to #45428)
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Stop being reasonable and polite Karen and vote NO.
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bauerhillboy
Posted 2008-04-12 7:36 AM (#45434 - in reply to #45428)
Subject: Re: Carved headstocks, love 'em or hate 'em?


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I voted in the "love" catagory. The beauty is, Schroeder, that if you don't like it you don't have to buy one. It's not like they're all made that way and we have no choice.

I don't like a lot of bling, but I do love when wood is made into beautiful things. I wouldn't want one of the foam headstocks.

John <>{
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Tupperware
Posted 2008-04-12 8:35 AM (#45435 - in reply to #45428)
Subject: Re: Carved headstocks, love 'em or hate 'em?


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Depends on the guitar. On the original slotheads the gay headstock looks great. Same on the Freissues.

A far bigger deal for me on slotted stocks is to design according to geometry 101 so that the strings don't rub on the spine or TRC. On gloss neck models take an extra 60 seconds and clean the buffing compound out of the slots.

Dave
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Jeff W.
Posted 2008-04-12 8:45 AM (#45436 - in reply to #45428)
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slotted headstocks look good with the broccoli stalk
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Jeff W.
Posted 2008-04-12 8:50 AM (#45437 - in reply to #45428)
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and...

I agree with Schroeder (i just threw-up a little), Ovation has the best headstock in the biz...
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gerald
Posted 2008-04-12 11:04 AM (#45438 - in reply to #45428)
Subject: Re: Carved headstocks, love 'em or hate 'em?


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the carved headstock of the adamas is beautiful
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Steve
Posted 2008-04-12 2:43 PM (#45439 - in reply to #45428)
Subject: Re: Carved headstocks, love 'em or hate 'em?


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Back in the day I always thought the headstock on my 1624 was the coolest thing made by Ovation.
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Chuck (Retired Navy)
Posted 2008-04-12 4:07 PM (#45440 - in reply to #45428)
Subject: Re: Carved headstocks, love 'em or hate 'em?


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I find that the carved headstocks give the Ovation a much more expensive, richer look. Now if I could just afford to buy one...
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2008-04-12 4:16 PM (#45441 - in reply to #45428)
Subject: Re: Carved headstocks, love 'em or hate 'em?


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Originally posted by bauerhillboy:

I don't like a lot of bling, but I do love when wood is made into beautiful things. I wouldn't want one of the foam headstocks.

John <>{
I Agree , that`s why I voted #3

Vic
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Thanksforallthefish
Posted 2008-04-12 4:44 PM (#45442 - in reply to #45428)
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Originally posted by Tupperware:
Depends on the guitar. On the original slotheads the gay headstock looks great. Same on the Freissues.

A far bigger deal for me on slotted stocks is to design according to geometry 101 so that the strings don't rub on the spine or TRC. On gloss neck models take an extra 60 seconds and clean the buffing compound out of the slots.

Dave
Hi Dave, is that the black stuff that looks like tempra paint in the slots? it scrapes/rubs off pretty easily, I thought it was supposed to be there, but would look much better with the gloss white underneath it showed on this one... tho it will not have aged and yellowed as the guitar has over the years..

so if I go at it with a small buffing wheel it will come right off?

thanks,

Glenn
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Northcountry
Posted 2008-04-12 5:07 PM (#45443 - in reply to #45428)
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Sounds like a simple case, or two, of Broccoli Envy to me.

Love those carvings. Might not own one if they did not make them that way actually.
I also know when a member is selling one in here that does "not" have the carvings I sure don't let everyone know how much I do not like the plain headstocks. But that's just me I have strange ideas sometimes.
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edensharvest
Posted 2008-04-13 2:02 AM (#45444 - in reply to #45428)
Subject: Re: Carved headstocks, love 'em or hate 'em?


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Originally posted by First Alternate:
I'm not a fan of a lot of bling on a guitar. It irritated me that the 1869 came with a carved bridge. To my eye, the most beautiful Kaman instrument is the Adamas 2080.
Shame on you! ;) I made it a point to special order the carved bridge on my 12-string BECAUSE my old 1869 had it...

This is why they make so many models...something for everyone!

On the headstock question, I'm not a fan of the broccoli head, but love the slotted paddle headstock more than almost any other in the industry.
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Todd
Posted 2008-04-13 7:15 PM (#45445 - in reply to #45428)
Subject: Re: Carved headstocks, love 'em or hate 'em?


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notwithstanding the carving, the walnut neck is rare and beautiful.
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Patch
Posted 2008-04-13 10:15 PM (#45446 - in reply to #45428)
Subject: Re: Carved headstocks, love 'em or hate 'em?



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On the headstock question, I'm not a fan of the broccoli head, but love the slotted paddle headstock more than almost any other in the industry. [/QB]
Ditto that. Great minds think alike. :cool:

(They also assume they're great. :rolleyes: )
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dobro
Posted 2008-04-14 8:27 AM (#45447 - in reply to #45428)
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The carved headstock of the R47 has grown on me. But the traditional O "snow plow" is forever linked to world-changing guitar in the early 70s. Never saw any broccoli back then....
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cliff
Posted 2008-04-14 8:55 AM (#45448 - in reply to #45428)
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It's an acanthus leaf . . not broccoli.

:rolleyes:
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2008-04-14 9:13 AM (#45449 - in reply to #45428)
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Not a huge fan of the acanthus headstock, but will always take the bling.
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muzza
Posted 2008-04-14 9:42 AM (#45450 - in reply to #45428)
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Originally posted by cliff:
It's an acanthus leaf . . not broccoli.

:rolleyes:
Could be cauliflower for all I care. Still ugly.
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Joe Rotax
Posted 2008-04-14 10:05 AM (#45451 - in reply to #45428)
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Originally posted by cliff:
It's an acanthus leaf . .
I'm no wiser; I'm guessing that this isn't going to be one of those learn something new every day sort of days..lol

I prefer plain guitars so I don't much care for the carved headstocks but on the other hand I've never really thought about them until this question came up.

Someone on here reduced the size of one and refinished it to one colour which was an improvement IMO; before it kinda looked like a lump of chocolate stuck to the headstock..lol
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gerald
Posted 2008-04-14 1:52 PM (#45452 - in reply to #45428)
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a porsche 911 turbo has a the huge whaletale spoiler, an adamas I has a carved acanthus leaf headstock. the excentric design of no wood high tech material in combination with traditional woodwork is really excellent and perfectly balanced.
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Damon67
Posted 2008-04-14 1:58 PM (#45453 - in reply to #45428)
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I would love to give my assessment, however, I do not have an Adamas, let alone an Adamas with a carved headstock.

Please help me contribute to this post by sending me any Adamas possible. It would help me to give a complete review if you could send multiple examples of carved headstocks (both wood and foam), as well as non-carved traditional styled.

Thank you all for your help. Please PM me for address.

Damon
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Joe Rotax
Posted 2008-04-14 5:56 PM (#45454 - in reply to #45428)
Subject: Re: Carved headstocks, love 'em or hate 'em?


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Originally posted by gerald:
a porsche 911 turbo has a the huge whaletale spoiler, an adamas I has a carved acanthus leaf headstock. the excentric design of no wood high tech material in combination with traditional woodwork is really excellent and perfectly balanced.
Perhaps not the best analogy; the 911 is more than slightly unbalanced insofar as the design still suffers from trailing throttle over-steer even after many years of development by Porsche and the car is a bit of a handful at track days particularly when driven by a novice..lol
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Tupperware
Posted 2008-04-14 6:06 PM (#45455 - in reply to #45428)
Subject: Re: Carved headstocks, love 'em or hate 'em?


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Originally posted by gerald:
a porsche 911 turbo has a the huge whaletale spoiler ...
... you know, I was trying to put my finger on a good example of something in the same catagory as the brocholi headstock. Something ugly as sin to most observers, yet gives boners to a hand full of hard core fans. Great example.

Dave
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Posted 2008-04-14 6:39 PM (#45456 - in reply to #45428)
Subject: Re: Carved headstocks, love 'em or hate 'em?
muzza
Posted 2008-04-15 1:14 AM (#45457 - in reply to #45428)
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Originally posted by Tupperware:
Something ugly as sin to most observers, yet gives boners to a hand full of hard core fans.
But in this case, the majority are getting boners and us discerning types are in the minority.

Originally posted by AlexJW:
I used to think they were ugly, but they've grown on me now :)
You've got an acathn... abacath... abathac... abracada... acroba... :rolleyes: brocolli leaf growing on you??? :eek: Where?

Originally posted by AlexJW:
... lets just say, I wouldn't turn down an Adamas because of it :p
Seriously, you couldn't pay me to own one.
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