Need advice on painting a breadwinner (and a couple of parts)
scooterboy
Posted 2009-06-30 10:37 AM (#409169)
Subject: Need advice on painting a breadwinner (and a couple of parts)


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I just won this ebay auction: Weird Breadwinner

Nutshell:

1) Body was stripped to bare wood and poly'd (badly). Neck and headstock remain original white.
2) One tuner missing cap
3) Ovation logo removed from headstock.
4) Everything else (electronics, action, etc) is fine (according to seller). Early specimen: early pickups and jack is on body, not pick guard.

Here's where I need some help:

1) I'd like to restore the body to the original color and finish as closely as possible. Obviously I'll have to take the clearcoat off. I've read here that spraying Krylon from 3-4 feet away can give that "spackle" finish on an Ovation bowl. Will that effect approximate the Breadwinner finish as well? Any other painting tips (specific paint, technique) would be great.

2) Anyone have a matching tuner for sale?

3) Is the logo on a Breadwinner headstock just a decal, and can I get one from the factory if I ask nicely?

I know that no matter how good a job I do, it will never be "original". I do plan to resell it after it's finished, since I already have a mint black Breadwinner. I just thought it would be a fun project.

Any advice is appreciated!
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MWoody
Posted 2009-06-30 11:15 AM (#409170 - in reply to #409169)
Subject: Re: Need advice on painting a breadwinner (and a couple of parts)



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Hey Scooter,

I was the third place Bidder and I think AJ was the Second place runner-upper on that auction.

I have a BW Body in White, early type like that one as well as the other parts you need. I can work one back to original or even glossy.

I could also build you a nice Natural toned Deacon with updated electronics and keep the Ol' BW stuff for myself!

Let's talk!

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scooterboy
Posted 2009-06-30 11:49 AM (#409171 - in reply to #409169)
Subject: Re: Need advice on painting a breadwinner (and a couple of parts)


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Hmmm...thinking...
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MWoody
Posted 2009-06-30 12:13 PM (#409172 - in reply to #409169)
Subject: Re: Need advice on painting a breadwinner (and a couple of parts)



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:rolleyes:



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numbfingers
Posted 2009-06-30 12:37 PM (#409173 - in reply to #409169)
Subject: Re: Need advice on painting a breadwinner (and a couple of parts)


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I bid a few seconds too late, but I wouldn't have won anyway. I was thinking maybe you could do the "Full Woody", sand down both the neck and body, and refinish with tung oil or Tru-Oil.

I've seen Krylon and Rustoleum textured spraypaints at the local Ace Hardware. I like the idea of textured paint since I'm incapable of producing a smooth shiny surface from a spray can.

Will the clearcoat really have to come off, or could it be sanded smooth and painted over?

-Steve W.
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scooterboy
Posted 2009-06-30 12:47 PM (#409174 - in reply to #409169)
Subject: Re: Need advice on painting a breadwinner (and a couple of parts)


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Not sure about the clear coat.

If I was going to keep it I'd consider the "full woody", but I bid on it with the understanding (with the powers that be) that I'd fix it up and resell it. I think I'd get the best price if it was restored to its original white.

Then again, Woody's got some interesting ideas...
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WillaMuse
Posted 2009-06-30 1:34 PM (#409175 - in reply to #409169)
Subject: Re: Need advice on painting a breadwinner (and a couple of parts)



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Scooter, Great grab! Congratulations and good luck with it!


The "Woodies" look elegant. (Gorgeous GEETARS, Woody! I'm green ...)

I'd love to have one. I was tempted at that auction, but realized I would NEVER get around to fixin' it up. I personally was turned off by the white headstock. There was a real pretty all-silvery-blue one on evilBay a few weeks ago, that I really liked, because I thought it looked 'girly' ;P ...
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MWoody
Posted 2009-06-30 2:05 PM (#409176 - in reply to #409169)
Subject: Re: Need advice on painting a breadwinner (and a couple of parts)



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PM'd
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FlySig
Posted 2009-06-30 2:32 PM (#409177 - in reply to #409169)
Subject: Re: Need advice on painting a breadwinner (and a couple of parts)



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That one went a little bit rich for me. I've been looking for a fixer-upper to do in an ever-so-slightly pink shade of white gloss for my daughter.
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MWoody
Posted 2009-06-30 2:45 PM (#409178 - in reply to #409169)
Subject: Re: Need advice on painting a breadwinner (and a couple of parts)



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Resale estimates - optimistic:

Early BW Pickups $200
Mahogany Body, needs work $75 - $100
5/6 BW/Viper Tuners $35 - $60
White BW Pickguard $30 - $50
White BW Neck $100
Neck Plate - Early - $100 - $150
Backplate - $100
Early BW Circuit Board, working $150-$250

If the auction were ending today I would have bid it higher since I have a White body to pull it all together.
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MWoody
Posted 2009-06-30 3:39 PM (#409179 - in reply to #409169)
Subject: Re: Need advice on painting a breadwinner (and a couple of parts)



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Forgot to add:

Having an Early BW like Slipkid (Windmill Strum optional) = Priceless
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an4340
Posted 2009-06-30 4:06 PM (#409180 - in reply to #409169)
Subject: Re: Need advice on painting a breadwinner (and a couple of parts)


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posted June 30, 2009 10:37 AM
I just won this ebay auction: Weird Breadwinner

1) I'd like to restore the body to the original color and finish as closely as possible ...

If it were me I'd go for an all wood look.

...

3) Is the logo on a Breadwinner headstock just a decal, and can I get one from the factory if I ask nicely?

If you can't get decal from the factory, then make your own from micromark. (After messing around with decals on a couple of necks, I believe they are overrated)

... I just thought it would be a fun project.
After you fix it you should keep it.
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MWoody
Posted 2009-06-30 5:10 PM (#409181 - in reply to #409169)
Subject: Re: Need advice on painting a breadwinner (and a couple of parts)



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antsy,

Can you explain to me (us) what the micromark thing is?

I am in deliberations with Scooter on how much he needs a "Woody" but he won't drink the Kool-aid...
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-06-30 5:20 PM (#409182 - in reply to #409169)
Subject: Re: Need advice on painting a breadwinner (and a couple of parts)



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I am in deliberations with Scooter on how much he needs a "Woody" but he won't drink the Kool-aid...
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While I was watching that one (when it was $177) I was thinking of how to get the paint OFF the neck.
Y'know, clean-up the wood and all that.
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AussieJames
Posted 2009-06-30 5:28 PM (#409183 - in reply to #409169)
Subject: Re: Need advice on painting a breadwinner (and a couple of parts)



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Ahh Scooterboy

So you're the culprit

I was after it for parts

Congrats, at least someone here got it

AJ
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scooterboy
Posted 2009-06-30 10:17 PM (#409184 - in reply to #409169)
Subject: Re: Need advice on painting a breadwinner (and a couple of parts)


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Originally posted by MWoody:

I am in deliberations with Scooter on how much he needs a "Woody" but he won't drink the Kool-aid...
I've taken a sip, and it's quite tasty.

Working out details...
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MWoody
Posted 2009-07-01 10:34 AM (#409185 - in reply to #409169)
Subject: Re: Need advice on painting a breadwinner (and a couple of parts)



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