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Location: South of most, North of few | Soon to arrive, (thanks to Blues Sailor and Beggins purchases) Martin custom shop 00-18VS amberburst. 00 body, 12 fret, slot head, quilted mahogany back and sides. Should be here next month. Full pics then, but here's a couple of generics.
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Location: Cicero, NY | Wow, that's gorgeous, TJ. Congrats. Another reason to look forward to my next visit! |
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Location: Vernon CT | Very Nice Jim!!! |
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Location: Newington, CT | Just gorgeous! Soooooooooo, 2k...is that the number of guitars bought and sold? Or the price of the guitar? |
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Location: Simpsonville, SC | TJ....uhhhh...hate to tell ya...but, I just checked my checking account and I think there may be trouble. But maybe not, what does the (-) sign mean, ya know, tha one in front of $2134.65?
Example: Your Balance is -2134.65 |
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Location: Cincinnati | Congratulations, TJ. Must be pretty special to get rid of your CEO. I'm going to start saving so I can buy it from you in September. |
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Location: Flahdaw | I thought you "finally broke the 2K barrier" last month with something different??? Wasn't it a parlor guitar, or was that someone else? |
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Location: South of most, North of few | I had a deal on a Santa Cruz, but it fell through cause the seller got cold feet about shipping. Just as well though. I have a Martin 00-18V now that I bought off Country Artist that I love. I know this one will be even better. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | One of these days you'll move up to a Collings.......
Very nice guitar to hold you over till you do though, Congrats TJ. |
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Location: Brisbane Australia | Well done TJ looks fantastic
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Location: Right now? | Really beautiful, TJ! Congrats on the acquisition! |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Whoa! Jim, that back looks like a top I would love to have!!!
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| It's pretty alright but how does an Adamas player get to own a Martin, or any classic wood dreadnought for that mater?
There's a 180 degrees of separation between any and every feature of the two. I, for instance, have a difficulty playing one, it's simply not built to handle what I need it to play.
From mumbling lows, slurry diction to temperamental action and horrible pick-ups, every time I wanted to get to like one - and there were many - back to the hanger it went.
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Location: East Tennessee | Jim,
Very nice!!!!! Are you going to take it camping??
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That Amberburst is sweet. Beggin, I can loan you twofiddy if it will help. |
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Location: South of most, North of few | "It's pretty alright but how does an Adamas player get to own a Martin, or any classic wood dreadnought for that mater?"
All it takes is cash.
"There's a 180 degrees of separation between any and every feature of the two."
If you'll check, I think your Adamas still has a wood neck and wood braces.
Any Martin I've owned (with the exception of an OM 35) has gut rumbling lows, distinct separation of tones, exemplary action, and sounds great plugged in with the addition of a relatively cheap B Band pickup. Now if you want to play out in the rain, an Adamas (or Composite Acoustic, Rainsong, etc...) is the way to go. I still own an Adamas, I just like the sound of a wood top Ovation better, and an all wood guitar even more. As it's been said here many times,.. different flavors of ice cream. ;)
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Location: south east Michigan | That 2k barrier is quite the monster.
I have not come even close.
I wonder if you'll get to the point where spending only $1300 just isn't any fun anymore?
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | mmm: Welcome to the club...
There's a 180 degrees of separation between any and every feature of the two. I, for instance, have a difficulty playing one, it's simply not built to handle what I need it to play.
What the heck are you trying to play? Grunge Rock or Meth Metal sounds better on an old Yamaha or Silvertone (lol)...The Adamas was originally built with a Pre-War Martin D-45 (can you say $250K) as the benchmark...and anyone who has played the early ones (slotheads, first run paddleheads, or even the 30th Anniv. 1187-247 RI's) can attest that they are truly incredible guitars. So are Martin's: I have two and have owned probably 8-10 others in the past.
From mumbling lows, slurry diction to temperamental action and horrible pick-ups, every time I wanted to get to like one - and there were many - back to the hanger it went.
So you've never actually owned one? The worst place to try out and get to love a guitar is in the store/showroom...I know, I was a music store owner for years...With your description, I'd say you haven't played an HD-28, OM-28V, or one of the scalloped braced Martins...
Just as TJ, I love my: Adamas, Ovation, Fender, Gibson, and soon: Takamine, as well as my Martins...Different Flavors as Jim said...
Find a nice shaded top HD-28, buy it, and take it home and find out what the magic is all about...and continue to enjoy your Adamas (of course, I'm assuming you own one).
TJ, Great Guitar...great burst, back, nice case (looks just like mine for the OM-28V).
Now the countdown begins...lol |
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Location: Location Location Location | Congratulations Jim. Is your Martin the one that was designed by the UMGF a few years ago? |
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Location: Brisbane Australia | I'm as green as
Envy that is!!
Spectacular Jimbo!!
One of the girls on here said something about being an "Ovation Lady in Waiting"
I'm not sure what I am!!
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Location: South of most, North of few | Originally posted by Brooklyn:
Congratulations Jim. Is your Martin the one that was designed by the UMGF a few years ago? Yes Gary, except for the amberburst, it's the same guitar. My Favorite Guitars had a few of these made from the custom shop to the same specs. Should be a good one. |
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Location: Vernon CT | Trader Jim's showroom wall. I have seen it many times but don't beleive it has ever had more then one guitar the same as the last Pic!
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Location: Location Location Location | Nice. I've dealt with Jon Garon on a few occasions. You couldn't ask for a nicer guy. Never got burned with him. I'll look for your review. |
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Location: ms | You broke past 2K a long time ago, you just got 2K guitars for less. |
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All dreads started as an attempt to clone a prewar Martin, yet a Martin and an Adamas are hard to compare: like a flamenco guitar and a classical, Maccaferri and parlor slothead, dobro and banjo. Different flavors? Like a chocolate cheesecake and salted fish, there's more to it.
Unless one plays 3 chords over 4 frets in the living room to 2 people I see how a different icecream flavor may not be an issue. Tone is subjective, I'm not arguing which is "better".
But if one demands the ultimate: playability, reliability, tonal consistency, harmonic precision, balance, playing live to 2k audience - I don't see how these flavors can be interchangeable. B-band? you must be kidding. Try plugging that Martin on a stage with fully amped band. Or recording acoustic with an acoustic bass and drums. I did - once.
I have thousands of tracks, mostly acoustic guitar music, jazz, fusion, manouche, from 3/4 strumming to acoustic Mahavishnu. Not a single Martin there. It's NOT just a tonal flavor issue.
If you're just a weekend strummer or collecting guitars, that's fine, but assuming one is seriously into it, how does one go from an Adamas to a dread and back... puzzling.
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Location: South of most, North of few | Well, there ya have it. I'M A "WEEKEND STRUMMER"
I haven't recorded any tracks, I don't play with a full band in a 5000 seat auditorium, in fact, I suck at playing. But, I do see a lot of "professional musicians" live and on the tube, and very few (if any) use anything but a wood box. I think the last time I saw anyone use an Adamas (except Kaki King) was the Wilson sisters, and that was eons ago. |
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Location: Cincinnati | Originally posted by mmm:
MM, TJ,
All dreads started as an attempt to clone a prewar Martin, yet a Martin and an Adamas are hard to compare: like a flamenco guitar and a classical, Maccaferri and parlor slothead, dobro and banjo. Different flavors? Like a chocolate cheesecake and salted fish, there's more to it.
Unless one plays 3 chords over 4 frets in the living room to 2 people I see how a different icecream flavor may not be an issue. Tone is subjective, I'm not arguing which is "better".
But if one demands the ultimate: playability, reliability, tonal consistency, harmonic precision, balance, playing live to 2k audience - I don't see how these flavors can be interchangeable. B-band? you must be kidding. Try plugging that Martin on a stage with fully amped band. Or recording acoustic with an acoustic bass and drums. I did - once.
I have thousands of tracks, mostly acoustic guitar music, jazz, fusion, manouche, from 3/4 strumming to acoustic Mahavishnu. Not a single Martin there. It's NOT just a tonal flavor issue.
If you're just a weekend strummer or collecting guitars, that's fine, but assuming one is seriously into it, how does one go from an Adamas to a dread and back... puzzling.
M I've never listened to a John Mayer cd and have only heard a few of his songs in passing, but I saw one of his concerts on tv about a month ago. His Martin's sounded pretty damn good to me.
I've owned 2 different Adamas and a number of Ovations. I also have 2 Martins. I don't know why there would be an issue with switching around. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Man, I thought this thread was about owning 2000 guitars!
In response to 3m, I get what you are saying. I'm just a mediocre played who like to collect cool guitars, so I have to base my tonal opinions (and visual to some extent) on what I hear others do who are much more professional to me. With popular performing or recording artists there is (to me) a connection to their chosen instrument that is integral in the whole "package" and to mess with it just ain't right.
For example, if I showed up at an Al Dimeola concert and he was playing a Martin 00028 EC it just wouldn't seem "right" to me. Nothing "wrong" with the guitar per se. Same thing if CSN&Y showed up playing Adamas guitars. It just wouldn't sit right.
The whole arguement of what's better, sounds better, whatever is just total blah blah bullshit. We all like what we like and that's it, no right and no wrong to the opinion. It's just opinions based on nothing other than opinion. My ears hear one thing, my hands feel something else, my wallet says this, etc. Maybe that's why I own so many guitars.
In my opinion the only thing that matters is that I can hold one of MY guitars in MY hands and say "I AM REALLY HAPPY THAT I OWN THIS".
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| Originally posted by Gallerinski:
...no right and no wrong to the opinion. It's just opinions based on nothing other than opinion...the only thing that matters is that I can hold one of MY guitars in MY hands and say "I AM REALLY HAPPY THAT I OWN THIS" 'xactly. But don't tell that to a Taylor lover. |
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Location: East Tennessee | Originally posted by Trader Jim:
Well, there ya have it. I'M A "WEEKEND STRUMMER"
I haven't recorded any tracks, I don't play with a full band in a 5000 seat auditorium, in fact, I suck at playing. But, I do see a lot of "professional musicians" live and on the tube, and very few (if any) use anything but a wood box. I think the last time I saw anyone use an Adamas (except Kaki King) was the Wilson sisters, and that was eons ago. Jimbo,
+1
I also like what Dave said.
I would add.... "Play what you like & like what you play." And I would love to play that Martin,(and maybe iffy's 1680). |
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Location: Simpsonville, SC | To whoever cares:
I received a New-to-me Martin (2002 CEO-5) from TJ last week. I have compared it side by side to my 1537, 1681 and UTE (u681t). I have had family and friends listen to the comparisons as well. The results AMAZED me, I didn't really know what to expect before the comparison. I was thinking about which Ovation I may want to pass on down the line, BEFORE the comparison.
Final analysis from all concerned is this: They all sound GREAT, each has it's own distinct sound (flavor), each one excels in a particular way from the others, each one handles (sic) differently, yet uniquely.
I am not a good player and may never be, but it is SO MUCH DAMN FUN finding the nuances between fine guitars. I do not have the finances to gather a studio full of great gits, and may never realize the finer appointments available out there, but I am thankful for my little treasure trove. Ovation, Martin, Collings, Taylor (never played one), etc. etc. etc. WHO CARES, but for each individuals own likes.
If there was only one guitar manufacturer in the world, then we would be the lesser for it.
VIVA LA DIFFERENCE!! The more the merrier. |
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Location: Cicero, NY | Amen. It's good to be King (of our own little worlds), eh? |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Stephent28 has as nice a selection as I've seen. I really enjoyed comparing his guitars, not so much as a comparison of which is better, but just to be able to trying out the different choices. I rarely have the opportunity to play so many varieties of high quality instruments. I could easily be a Martin or Collings fan if my budget allowed, but I am glad that I really liked the 47 and brought it home. |
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Location: Simpsonville, SC | Originally posted by Weaser P:
Amen. It's good to be King (of our own little worlds), eh? You are right Weas, sorry to rant here, but this group has always been open minded to all flavors.
I feel fortunate to have my little group of guitars and the occasional opportunity to taste other flavors.
FWIW: Trader Jim is an inspiration. He never stops his search for his perfect guitar, and I doubt he ever will. (at least as long as I can talk him out of his current favorite. ;) )
BTW: Weas, how are you likin the UTE? |
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Location: Cicero, NY | "BTW: Weas, how are you likin the UTE?"
Can't put it down and I've got two buds with eyes on that eBay one because of it. GREAT guitar (but you knew that already... ;) ) |
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Well, I finally broke the 2k barrier (by a bunch)