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Location: East Wenatchee, WA | I have a 2008C with the fancy gold foil binding. After a week or so of 90-100+ degree days (where I retreat to my cool basement and play the Adamas) and this morning I notice that where my arms lays against the body, the fancy gold foil has taken on a dull lead/silver coloration.
I this normal? Can it be brought back or do I just live with it?
I can't see myself putting a rag over it everytime I play, so it will probably be an on-going issue, but curious if this has happened to anyone else.
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Location: SoCal | I had the same problem with the OFC slothead (ding). Pretty certain that the acid in my sweat ate away the gold leaf. Either live with it or send it back to the factory. I sent mine back for several other issues as well. Now when I play out with it and it's hot and I'm sweaty, I'm careful to clean it when I get home (little water or Pledge or Dunlop 65 to keep that area clean).... |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I think Moody had this problem on his OFC guitar. |
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Location: SoCal | Didn't I just say that? |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Gallerinski:
I think the gold is maybe copper and it tarnishes with sweat |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Proper cleaning and wipe down of instrument following use is very important!
But I never do it either.
I think Moody had a similiar issue with his OFC guitar :p |
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Location: south east Michigan | I've never heard of anything like that.
Body chemistry might have something to do with it. I know from personal experience what happens to the strings when you let Temp play your guitar.
You're right Woody.
Moody did have a simular probem.
He even posted something about it somewhere. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Wow!? :eek: I thought Gold was a noble element that you couldn't destroy with acid.
Ain't that how they test gold?
If you can get it back up to it's normal luster, I would look for something to polish/protect it with.
I vaguely remember reading another member had that problem... Maybe Moody would know? |
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Location: SoCal | Problem? What problem?
People, it's paint, not gold leaf.... |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Didn't Moody have a similar problem to this????? |
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Location: SoCal | I donno. Let's ask him.... |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Hey, Paulie...
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Location: East Wenatchee, WA | Thanks guys....I am glad no one else has had this problem. Especially Moody...he would probably send it back to the factory.
I do wipe down my instrument, but the fine carving is likely not getting wiped in the process.
I will just live with it as it presently is my only AE and I need it a couple of times per week. Besides....it may make someone think I actually use it????? |
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Location: Sydney, Australia | Jeff, you'll probably notice that you're also carving little grooves in the fretboard as you play it (I am). You can either keep it in pristine condition OR you can play it.
I play mine. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Good thing Moody never had this problem. |
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Location: SoCal | What problem? |
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Location: Sydney, Australia | I think Moody has a problem, but is in denial. We should organise an intervention. |
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Location: SoCal | If the intervention involves loaning or giving me great guitars then I'm all for it.
Normally, I don't get problems, I give them..... |
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | I have a friend who plays a Taylor who had a simular problem with his sweat, and he uses some kind of sweatband on his arm, just below the elbow. Seems to work for him. I just wipe mine down with Pledge. I think taking a shower once in a while may help also. (; |
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Location: East Wenatchee, WA | Originally posted by bvince:
I think taking a shower once in a while may help also. (; Wouldn't help.....whenever I go down and start playing, I start sweating.....I must be working at it too hard. Wonder if the mother would send me a bottle of touch up paint and a brush...like they used to with new cars? |
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | If you are thinking of that, you may want to check into doing actual gold leaf. It really isn't that expensive, and it's actually pretty easy. I did gold leafing on signs for quite a while and found it almost as easy as trying to get a good gold paint job. |
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Location: Newington, CT | This has to be the goldurned funniest thread I've read in a LOOOOOOOOOOOONG time!
Moody has a problem, but it has nothing to do with gold finish on guitars...he hangs around with some WEIRD folks! |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Originally posted by AlanM:
he hangs around with some WEIRD folks! ... pot... kettle...
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Location: Indiana | I wonder if Manix or Rockford had sweaty fore-arm's... |
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Location: Sydney, Australia | In all seriousness, my guitar is showing the same symptom, but I'm not sure if it is tarnished or just plain wearing off. Nobody can see it when I'm playing, because that's where my arm is.
Like Jeff, I'm just gonna keep playing it, but I'm curious about what sort of paint could be used to touch it up, if I ever get that retentive about it. |
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Location: Brisbane Australia | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
If the intervention involves loaning or giving me great guitars then I'm all for it.
Normally, I don't get problems, I give them..... The intervention is on it's way Paul!! ;)
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Location: Cork, Ireland | Don't worry, keep sweating on it and it will become so cool that the parent company will make replicas of it like Rory Gallagher's strat which started out with a sunburst finish
http://www.fender.com/customshop/instruments/search.php?partno=0150... |
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by AussieJames:
Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
If the intervention involves loaning or giving me great guitars then I'm all for it.
Normally, I don't get problems, I give them..... The intervention is on it's way Paul!! ;)
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | No sweat issues here, but all the more reason to play with long sleeves, particularly in warm environs. |
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Location: Newington, CT | Originally posted by 2ifbyC:
Originally posted by AlanM:
he hangs around with some WEIRD folks! ... pot... kettle...
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Location: East Wenatchee, WA | Well....I did chat with "mother" and they said it was not a warranty repair, but they would probably touch it up.
It finally dropped into the 20's this weekend, so I will probably quit sweating until Summer now. |
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Location: Miami | This is one of those things that drives anal retentive... er, I mean, analytical people like me up the wall. A tiny ding here, sweat discoloration there, pick scratches that you see when the lighting hits the guitar the right (wrong) way, etc...
Being a lover of the textured tops myself, I have to resign myself to the fact that any moderate amount of playing is going to make the guitar look used. Ever notice the pick scratches are hardly even on the pickguard if your guitar has one? Hence the snot globs on the Adamases that extend below the area where a pickguard typically ends. I wish they put those on all guitars.
Anyway, my point is, unless you have a guitar meant to hang and display, I say get used to it. I do my best playing when I forget about the dings and scuffs and just play.
On the other extreme, I like seeing Clapton and SRV (God rest his soul) playing their beat up scratched beyond all recognition strats. Sometimes the wear and tear adds charm to the guitar.
I also noticed it's usually us, not the audience, who even notices these minor flaws. If you have the luxury of having a display guitar and a playing guitar, then pamper the display guitar. Send it to mama to get her touched up.
Personally, I hate having to hold back when I play. I've tried. I had a display guitar once that I couldn't stop staring at. I'd play it gently, conscious of every time the pick touched the surface, and I'd wipe the thing down constantly.
It wasn't too bad, but I have to admit the real fun is in picking up a tank of a guitar and playing your heart out. Some guitars hide the wear and tear better than others. I mentioned the snot glob. Combine this with a burst color and the gold flek, and the guitar can stay new looking for decades.
Bottom line: do you want to display it, or just play it? (Play it well, and no one else will even care about the defect except you!) |
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Location: Whitecourt, Ab | Did Moody's little problem clear up yet? |
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Location: Upper Left USA | Joe has a point there. I prefer to change out any of the Gold tuners to an Ivoroid mainly because I can't see the fingerprints on the Ivoroid.
For the Gold paint issue - would the occasional coating of Wax do any good?
And Moody, the first step in recovery is for me to admit that you have a problem... |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | What problem? Moody has a problem?? |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Yeah, it was raining; lots of traffic; and now I'm selling it...(of course it sat for a week in his living room and he never played it)...
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Location: on the web | Originally posted by MusicMishka:
Yeah, it was raining; lots of traffic; and now I'm selling it... So let me see if I have this correct: eight months ago you take advantage of the generosity and selflessness of another member for this guitar , sing its praises to high heaven, acquire numerous other guitars all the while lamenting your financial straits, and now you are trying to sell it for an enormous profit? That is simply delicious. How very christian. You, sir, are my new hero. |
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | Like I said before ... If you have the "sweat problem", pick up one of those sweat bands that fits on your forearm. I have friends who use 'wm all the time, and the problem goes away. It's really a cheap preventative measure. Pay a little early, or pay a lot later for the repair. It's kinda' like the idea of regularly changing the oil in your car ... it pays off in the end. |
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Location: Pennsylvania | Vince, excellent idea. One of those "why didn't I think of that?" kind of simple solutions. Thanks for the tip! |
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