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Location: VENISE-EN-QUEBEC CANADA | well not much here other than when i played this week-end for my father and mother inlaw's 50th wedding aniversery I had my S868 thin body playing standing up (it"s the way to go), and it sounded better than the other guy's guitar he play'd a Gibson. but mid dept, body is a little hard to play standing up but they sound do good ;)
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Needing a 1/4" plug to activate da VIP tuna!
As to the question, how many of ya'll have received a 'customer satisfaction/recommendations' survey from Ovation?  |
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Location: Michigan | The action is so low and easy it makes it difficult to play someone elses guitar :)
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| Originally posted by twistedlim:
[QB] The action is so low and easy it makes it difficult to play someone elses guitar :)
Truth!
So far, I don't have any complaints about my 02 Collectors. I can play it strapless and it doesn't move!
But I did feel for the guy that I saw that was having problems with the battery compartment on his Ovation during a performance.
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Location: Sydney, Australia | Originally posted by Beal:
There's not enough plastic on them. Too much wood. Bring back the Q |
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Location: SoCal | That they sound so much better than other guitar players expect and they can be heard over the Gibsons and Martins at jams. I really don't like the nasty looks I get from other players who are envious...... |
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| Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
That they sound so much better than other guitar players expect and they can be heard over the Gibsons and Martins at jams. I really don't like the nasty looks I get from other players who are envious...... The one thing I didn't like about the 40 year old Gibby I tried is that it was a "soft" guitar, meaning that it would get lost if I tried to jam with someone else. I like the volume of my 02 Collectors.
I've heard that at some bluegrass jams if you show up with something other than a Martin, people tend to freak out.
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by Guitarzannie:
I've heard that at some bluegrass jams if you show up with something other than a Martin, people tend to freak out. It's fun to watch. Their problem, not mine.... |
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Location: On the Coast - Halfway between SF & OR | Originally posted by Guitarzannie:
I've heard that at some bluegrass jams if you show up with something other than a Martin, people tend to freak out.
Michelle
Yeah, I've experienced that. I'll usually keep the Ovation tucked away and play a National until I feel comfortable enough with the crowd to bring it out. Not really a problem with the Ovation I guess, more lack of self confidence on my part.
I'd still like to build an Ovation resonator one of these days.... |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | I've had the same thing happen when I brought my Adamas to a blue grass jam. They make fun of it like, oh here's the canoe paddle etc, I mean what the f'k, are we in grade school or something ... but then I play my MEWP and they shut their pie holes. By the end of the jam, it's just another (good sounding) guitar in the mix and people actually want to play it. |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | My O's do everything I want; stay in tune for months on end, light and comfy standing to play (I really don't get the 'problem'...?), fast and easy neck (same as I used to like my women...), louder than everything else at the guitar pulls.
Nope. No downside.
Oooo! and I can afford the ones I want! |
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Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | I only have two complaints:
1. They should have started from the beginning with the Op Pro Studio. (it reminds me of Microsoft and the whole Windows version cange-thing)
2. I can't afford to buy more Ovations than I already have ); |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | finish cracks (although I've seen them on other guitars.
I sold my guitar with the Optima. Now I can read the tuners in all the ones I have. |
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Location: Utah | Originally posted by fillhixx:
My O's do everything I want; stay in tune for months on end The '07C went out of tune when I was on vacation last summer. :confused: I guess the dog doesn't know how to tune a guitar, because that is the only time I've had a problem with it.
The dummy plug for the VIP is the only flaw I can think of. |
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | 1) I don't have enough of them.
2) I just took the new Adamas to a couple of jam session, one was bluegrass, the other a mix of styles. The Adamas was so loud people complained they couldn't hear the other instruments - and I don't even use a pick!
3) When I play my 2077LX I have to be careful to play cleanly because every note rings out individually and it sounds so clear. When I play my 1617 Legend people get jealous because it sounds richer than their wood boxes. When I play my new Parlor (just came today!) people are fascinated with the way it looks to the point that they are talking about the guitar instead of listening to me play.
4) See number 1. |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty |
The dummy plug for the VIP is the only flaw I can think of. I'll go one further, the horrid VIP image sounds. My 07 now sports an Op Pro Studio and is much better for it :)
I really don't like emulated/modelled tones. They just don't fool my ears. Yeah you might not be able to afford a load of the guitars that modellers can offer but I'd rather not have a bad imitation. Perhaps buried in a mix they might work but as a soloist they don't cut the mustard. |
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Location: Nashville TN. | Dont like the contour bowl
Other than that all is duckie |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Losov sez:
I dislike having to defend my choice to the boutique guitar crowd.
But it's a simple defense: It works for me. Not really a problem, but my 'associates' will always have nasty things to say about my choice in guitars. But I might add that Nobody sez bad things when the Ovation is present!
I have also had people comment that they are too Loud! (unplugged) Uh, that's cuz it has a Bowl. :p |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | - Needing a dummy plug to activate the VIP tuner.
- My only other complaint has been the mis-information out about Ovation guitars in general. While I and many others appreciate the true Connecticut Yankee Ingenuity of the instruments, it does not make for fun Advertising and Marketing.
While it's great for us that know that when you see an Artist playing an Ovation, they are playing it out of choice, not because they got a free guitar, cause they didn't, they paid for it.... Most artists playing other guitars get their guitars for free, so most people think that's what everyone does.
I guess like others, the perception bothers me a bit, but it's not so much what people say, it's that often it has been people whom I respect that are just mis-informed.
If you think the wood guitar crowd is tuff, try riding up to a Harley rally with the "Other" American Motorcycle. Of course the most common thing I hear on that front, is while many die-hard Harley riders acknowledge that the Victory's are superior in almost every way, they will proudly end the conversation with "but it's not a Harley." Can't argue with that..
Bottom line.. I'd be happy if I didn't have to use the dummy plug to tune. :) |
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Location: big island | nevah heard of a victory motorcycle til now...think i'll google 'em. |
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Location: SoCal | Miles, how do Harley riders feel about Indian motorcycles? |
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Location: Upper Left USA | They were here first, weren't they? |
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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | Originally posted by CanterburyStrings:
1) I don't have enough of them.
4) See number 1. Now someone's speaking my language! :cool: |
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Location: Sydney, Australia | Originally posted by dweezil:
I'll go one further, the horrid VIP image sounds. I'll disagree here, A 50% VIP mix seems to really improve the 08C through the church PA. It sounds more "acoustic". |
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| K-bar necks, I like the old vintage truss rod models and the LX models, but the K-Bars are just too top heavy and in some cases produce too much of a V contour on the neck.
just my .02 tho...
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| Had mine since 1975 - no complaints so far.
If I was to buy another it would probably be an old one in good condition - I'd like to try a 1960s shiny bowl to see if I like that so some day I'll start looking around for one. |
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| Originally posted by Palm Bay Glenn:
K-bar necks, I like the old vintage truss rod models and the LX models, but the K-Bars are just too top heavy and in some cases produce too much of a V contour on the neck.
just my .02 tho...
Glenn I'm with you on the pronounced V shape of the neck. Is it only in certain models--or, even, certain production runs of models--that the neck is V-shaped? (I've owned two 1778Ts, and it seemed that the neck of the second one I owned was more uncomfortable than the one I had previously. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I think asking for a "bitch list" of what we/I don't like is a bit negative. Let me rephrase the question as "What are some positive changes that I would like to see Ovation impliment" ...
1. Improved quality control. Too much shoddy workmanship gets out the door to be considered a world class quality builder. I have posted numerous specific examples in the past. 'Nuf said.
2. Expand the product line into differing sized bodies. All Ovations with the exception of the parlor and a few one-offs are the same size. basically it's an OM sized guitar. Offer a dreadnaught, jumbo and 000 size.
3. Sell the guitars with no pre-amp, just an empty can with a dummy cover. Make the pre-amp optional and allow the buyer to purchase the exact one he wants - iDea, VIP, OPPro, etc.
4. Focus less on glitz and fancy colors, concentrate on quality and acoustic tone first and foremost.
5. Improve the appointments on higher end models. Better cases, bone nuts, quality tuners, etc. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
Miles, how do Harley riders feel about Indian motorcycles? My experience is that Indian is in a class by itself. They were the first successful motorcycle manufacturer in the USA, and at one time the largest in the world. Regardless of their quality, style or success and failure... they proved it could be done, and an original Indian in the bike world is like an Original slothead in the Ovation world.
I have similar experience with Moto Guzzi and I think they are the parallel along with Victory in many ways to what Ovation was and still tries to be. Rather than taking the Harley route of building essentially the same thing for years and years they are constantly pushing the envelope and on the cutting edge of technology and innovation. Much like Ovation's "Q", Victory built the "Core" this year, which is a motorcycle that will likely never get put into production. It is an experimental platform, something to get both engineers and consumers thinking about possibilities.
And before anyone thinks I'm slamming Harley I'm not. I think of Harley much like the Les Paul or the Stratocaster. There are plenty of guitars that are built much better than a Les Paul or a Strat. There are copies that are built better and sound better than a Les Paul or a Strat... but no matter what.. they are not a Les Paul or a Strat. |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Originally posted by Gallerinski:
2. Expand the product line into differing sized bodies. All Ovations with the exception of the parlor and a few one-offs are the same size. basically it's an OM sized guitar. Offer a dreadnaught, jumbo and 000 size.
4. Focus less on glitz and fancy colors, concentrate on quality and acoustic tone first and foremost.
5. Improve the appointments on higher end models. Better cases, bone nuts, quality tuners, etc. .. and I thought I was ALONE in this cruel world .. Dave my man , any time U come to Cph. Dk , and I mean .. ANY TIME .. !! :)
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Location: London, UK | I don't like the way guitar stores over here have basically abandoned them except as novelty items. |
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| Originally posted by sypolog:
I don't like the way guitar stores over here have basically abandoned them except as novelty items. Sounds like some guitar shops here too.
The kicker for me was when I went to a shop listed on the Ovation site and not only did they not have an Ovation to try out, the salesman completely trashed Ovations in hopes that I would buy a Taylor!
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Location: Brisbane Australia | How sad it this??
Taylor wines are really very good quality wines here.
I was in my wine store Sunday night and they had Taylor wines on special.
I couldn't even bring myself to buy some!!!
Bloody hell!!!
I must have it bad.
And another thing, I don't like the freaking shipping costs to OZ
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| Originally posted by AussieJames:
How sad it this??
Taylor wines are really very good quality wines here.
I was in my wine store Sunday night and they had Taylor wines on special.
I couldn't even bring myself to buy some!!!
Bloody hell!!!
I must have it bad.
And another thing, I don't like the freaking shipping costs to OZ
AJ You'd pretty much have to drink Taylor wines in order to enjoy a low end Taylor guitar! :D
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Location: Sydney, Australia | Originally posted by AussieJames:
How sad it this??
Taylor wines are really very good quality wines here.
I was in my wine store Sunday night and they had Taylor wines on special.
I couldn't even bring myself to buy some!!!
AJ Never mind AJ, I'll help you drink the consolation Grange that you bought. |
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Location: Right now? | 1) I don't have enough of them.
Me either, Alison, and congrats again on your new Adamas! (Beal, will you marry me?) Although I haven't 'known' you very long, I already know that if anyone deserves to own one, it would be you. I'm happy to read that you had an opportunity to cuddle up to her these past few days. I'm gonna go over and check out the new NING photos you've posted. I love my "O's"! That beauty Patch sold me and the '09C continue to vie for my attention, and the others are presently getting quite jealous!
(P.S. Just kidding Beal; you couldn't PAY me to get married ... EVER again). |
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Location: Upper Left USA | From the repair/BFLG side of things - Epoxy bound neck pockets! No way to reset.
As far as sound and energy transferrance their great though! |
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Now you need to learn to play a certain Marilyn McCoo song and present it at the next gathering.
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Location: Right now? | Now you need to learn to play a certain Marilyn McCoo song and present it at the next gathering. Yeah, you're right, Woody; I'll work on that, lol. |
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