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moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-08-11 8:36 PM (#403616)
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Wide neck Adamas I on the 'bay. Looks good.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Ovation-Adamas-I-1689-7-Acoustic-Electric-Guita...
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lanaki
Posted 2009-08-11 8:48 PM (#403617 - in reply to #403616)
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someone please buy this for me. i'll let you keep it until i graduate and get gainfully employed. i'll then send you the money and have you ship it to me.
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AussieJames
Posted 2009-08-11 8:49 PM (#403618 - in reply to #403616)
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That's a nice one!!

AJ
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TAFKAR
Posted 2009-08-11 9:35 PM (#403619 - in reply to #403616)
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AJ, you GOTTA buy this one!! I'll buy it off you later when I can afford it and SWMBO's not looking.
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Gallerinski
Posted 2009-08-11 9:57 PM (#403620 - in reply to #403616)
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Wow, that's an OLD one. Bet it sings a sweet tune.
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sligoman
Posted 2009-08-11 9:59 PM (#403621 - in reply to #403616)
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Like he says, the real thing.
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stephent28
Posted 2009-08-11 10:03 PM (#403622 - in reply to #403616)
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Optimistic pricing in today's economy.

Probably would have been snatched up instantly at that price a year ago.
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Gallerinski
Posted 2009-08-11 10:05 PM (#403623 - in reply to #403616)
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I dunno T28, I think the old 4 bolt doors in that color, that nut width, and that condition would hald their value in ANY economic climate. I swore I was done with roundbacks, but I'm having serious second thoughts over this one ...
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-08-11 10:34 PM (#403624 - in reply to #403616)
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Oh my! Look at that fretboard grain...

That's gotta be a boomer.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-08-11 10:52 PM (#403625 - in reply to #403616)
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Seller sez; "Hate to say it, but I never was a great guitarist, so it has not been played much at all."

Hey! I'm a crappy guitarist and I play all the time.

Nice old guitar, wish I had a spare coupla K.
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stephent28
Posted 2009-08-12 2:56 AM (#403626 - in reply to #403616)
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Originally posted by Gallerinski:
I dunno T28, I think the old 4 bolt doors in that color, that nut width, and that condition would hald their value in ANY economic climate.
All too true but the economy is killing a lot of folks (me included) and I think a year ago that 3K BIN would have been snapped up pretty quickly!

It's on my ebay watch list but that's probably as far as I will go.....got that darn Borges on order that will be ready in about 4 months.
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Beal
Posted 2009-08-12 8:52 AM (#403627 - in reply to #403616)
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Very cool guitar. There was a guy at Swannanoa that had #797, a 1687-9.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2009-08-12 1:25 PM (#403628 - in reply to #403616)
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AlanM
Posted 2009-08-12 4:10 PM (#403629 - in reply to #403616)
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Originally posted by MusicMishka:
360-92

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1978
Hut...hut...hut -- cut left -- go long!!!
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-08-12 4:22 PM (#403630 - in reply to #403616)
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Originally posted by AlanM:
-- go long!!!
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Bluebird
Posted 2009-08-12 10:39 PM (#403631 - in reply to #403616)
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Am I seeing things or is there some mountng ring damage in the lower treble bout area? Also, the back looks like there has been tape or something stuck to it in places.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-08-12 11:05 PM (#403632 - in reply to #403616)
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Originally posted by Bluebird:
Am I seeing things or is there some mountng ring damage in the lower treble bout area? Also, the back looks like there has been tape or something stuck to it in places.
Then there are these...

What is that light blue stuff by the binding?


And it looks like the whole side was cut out, or something. :eek: I ain't buying it so I don't care.
(Just trying to stimulate a discussion :p )
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Tony Calman
Posted 2009-08-12 11:27 PM (#403633 - in reply to #403616)
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IMO, a whole lot of problems and less than adequate disclosure.
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-08-12 11:29 PM (#403634 - in reply to #403616)
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It definitely doesn't match the 'pristine' description!
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playadamas
Posted 2009-08-13 11:13 AM (#403635 - in reply to #403616)
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Something about these wide necks...

I bought this a few year back; funny story, Al and I called the seller around the same time (not knowing about it from each other); seller called me late one night and I was too tired to negotiate and just bought it for a ridiculously low price.

This has got to be the "sweetest" sounding Adamas I have (comparing with old, new and slotheads).





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Gallerinski
Posted 2009-08-13 11:21 AM (#403636 - in reply to #403616)
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The additional mass of the wider neck is what makes the difference in sound.
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gitslinger
Posted 2009-08-13 12:17 PM (#403637 - in reply to #403616)
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How wide is a wide neck? 1 7/8?
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Gallerinski
Posted 2009-08-13 12:30 PM (#403638 - in reply to #403616)
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1-7/8
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lanaki
Posted 2009-08-13 12:45 PM (#403639 - in reply to #403616)
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high bid has been retracted due to seller changing the description.
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stephent28
Posted 2009-08-13 2:36 PM (#403640 - in reply to #403616)
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Randy does that mean you no longer want it?
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Beal
Posted 2009-08-13 2:48 PM (#403641 - in reply to #403616)
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the discoloration is probably just some glue film or something cosmetic like that. The lines look like it could have been tape on the area and the adhesive attacked the finish ;eaving the lines there. It looks like it is still all intact, just looks a little ugly.
I'd say it's all cosmetic and not worry about it. Of course, I could be wrong, but I don't think so.
The way would be to see if there are any seems on the inside drom cutting etc.
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kotadawg
Posted 2009-08-13 2:56 PM (#403642 - in reply to #403616)
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Originally posted by lanaki:
high bid has been retracted due to seller changing the description.
you got that right
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lanaki
Posted 2009-08-13 2:56 PM (#403643 - in reply to #403616)
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i asked the seller about the questionable binding on the treble side upper bout. see his response on the auction page. things just don't add up...
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-08-13 2:59 PM (#403644 - in reply to #403616)
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Beal,

I've heard that the MS is no longer set up to reproduce the 'gold sparkle'. Do ya know?
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kotadawg
Posted 2009-08-13 3:01 PM (#403645 - in reply to #403616)
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Originally posted by lanaki:
i asked the seller about the questionable binding on the treble side upper bout. see his response on the auction page. things just don't add up...
Totally agree. He bought it new, never had it repaired, yet even says it looks repaired.
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-08-13 3:13 PM (#403646 - in reply to #403616)
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Music Mike posted that this is a '78 and this guy says he bought it new in '82... could happen, I guess.

Sumpin' just ain't right here with all the backpedaling!
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Beal
Posted 2009-08-13 5:06 PM (#403647 - in reply to #403616)
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don't know

and yes there seem to be holes in his story.
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AussieJames
Posted 2009-08-13 5:37 PM (#403648 - in reply to #403616)
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FRG?? :eek:

AJ
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MusicMishka
Posted 2009-08-13 5:51 PM (#403649 - in reply to #403616)
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This has got to be the "sweetest" sounding Adamas I have (comparing with old, new and slotheads).
I would have to agree with that; my '78 #189 is the best sounding Adamas I own...I too got it for a crazy cheap price; even after having a bit of setup and repair by Mother done; it's just the best...







They had it right back in the day...
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lanaki
Posted 2009-08-14 9:30 AM (#403650 - in reply to #403616)
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Originally posted by stephent28:
Randy does that mean you no longer want it?
i wuz not the bidder, but i still want it...
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lanaki
Posted 2009-08-14 11:31 PM (#403651 - in reply to #403616)
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On Aug-14-09 at 20:07:26 PDT, seller added the following information:

I took the guitar to a local Guitar Center store (a U.S. chain) and had it evaluated by their guitar staff. It was examined carefully and completely under blacklight and the cracks in the finish on the back are just that -- cracks in the finish, not in the body. The guy who inspected it also looked inside with the black light.

He did say there was a hairline crack where the bottom of the neck was possibly starting to come up from where it is attached to the body, but there was no present problem. He also said it needed adjusting, that the strings were a bit too far up (which is why I filed the notches in the bridge just a little bit, long ago, to lower the strings). He said at some point in the future, the neck should be removed and reset. Of course, this guitar's neck does not have a rod up it with a bolt you could adjust. It's solid wood.

I put a new 9 V alkaline battery in it recently and I had the guy inspecting it plug both outputs into an amplifier, one channel at a time, to verify that the pickups and electronics worked and that there was no "scratchiness" in the volume and tone controls. All that was perfect.

The evaluator said it chimed well, had great intonation, the face was in great shape, etc. I had them write up their evaluation, and I will send a photo (JPG file) of that document if anyone sends me their email address (mine: henrystinson@yahoo.com). I am unable to post that photo here, because I'm already up to my maximum limit of 12 pictures.

Disclaimer: I told Guitar Center that they would in no way be held liable for any mistakes or misinformation, but I have confidence in their evaluation. They took their time inspecting it and writing it up.

I apologize to all bidders for my failing to notice the deterioration and small defects, but this guitar looks great (except the back) and plays and sounds great.
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lanaki
Posted 2009-08-14 11:32 PM (#403652 - in reply to #403616)
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i'd take it and send it to mama for some good nursing.
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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2009-08-15 2:45 PM (#403653 - in reply to #403616)
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I'm not in the running, but I'd have some serious trust issues with this seller. Claims at least twice to be the original owner yet knows little to nothing about it's features or history...

"Absolute pristine condition Ovation Adamas Adamis I Acoustic-Electric guitar, no scratches I just noticed there is a crack on the back that I don't remember but it's been sealed with superglue. I don't remember doing that. Further Correction: There is no superglue. The crack on the back is in the outer finish."
????

"Of course, this guitar's neck does not have a rod up it with a bolt you could adjust. It's solid wood."
????

"The binding does look a little strange in one place. It's never been repaired, at least not by me. I bought it new. I just looked at that area closely and it does look like the binding might have gotten chipped or something and someone filled it in with some kind of clear plastic.It's a mystery to me."
????

Buyer Beware.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-08-15 2:55 PM (#403654 - in reply to #403616)
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People, get real here. The guitar may not be perfect but if you can pick it up from under 2 grand, and shoot it back to the factory for another 5 hundred to bring it up to snuff, then for less than 25 hundred you've got a 30 year old Adamas I with all the old mojo that implies.

And it's a wide neck to boot. Pretty damned rare.

If I had the cash, I'd grab it.

You guys are dwelling on all the verbage and missing the big picture.....
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Beal
Posted 2009-08-15 2:58 PM (#403655 - in reply to #403616)
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Trader Jim
Posted 2009-08-15 3:23 PM (#403656 - in reply to #403616)
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At the risk of being the party pooper here, I'll say this. An Adamas I is a very nice guitar. A wide neck Adamas I is a rare Adamas. That said, unless you are enamored with the looks of the I series, whether it's rare or not, as for resale, it's only worth a certain amount, and only to VERY few people. (read, us nuts here) If you want to buy this as an investment, I'd say you're barking up the wrong tree. If you want it cause you want an Adamas I with a wide neck, and plan to send it back for a refurb, and then keeping it forever, then it might be worth pursuing. I never did really become attached to the looks of the "broccoli head" Adamas. I'd rather have a II. Bottom line, those who want one AND have the cash to outlay are few and far between, so the seller is dealing with a small audience.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-08-15 3:46 PM (#403657 - in reply to #403616)
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TJ, what you say is true. But I'm not talking about the investment value. I'm talking about an terrific guitar that doesn't come along very often.

One of the great things about Ovations and Adamii is that they are great deals for great guitars. Unlike a Taylor or a Martin, you're not paying a fortune for the name. A wideneck Adamas I is worth $2500 easily for it's sound, playability, and coolness factor. It will slice and dice with guitars costing up to $4k easily.

It's like my rebuilt Legend. On the open market it might be worth $500, but I've played it next to guitars costing 4 times that and it's right there with them.

I'd never look at an Ovation/Adamii as a great investment, just a great guitar.....
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Trader Jim
Posted 2009-08-15 3:53 PM (#403658 - in reply to #403616)
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Yeah, but it slips off your lap... :D

scuse me, I've got to go bid on it now...
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MusicMishka
Posted 2009-08-15 4:09 PM (#403659 - in reply to #403616)
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The guitar may not be perfect but if you can pick it up from under 2 grand, and shoot it back to the factory for another 5 hundred to bring it up to snuff, then for less than 25 hundred you've got a 30 year old Adamas I with all the old mojo that implies.
Absolutely! And it doesn't need to be a wideneck either (although for those who prefer the wider neck it is a plus)...my '78 1687-8 #189 was almost identical...it needed the bowl refinished around the heel of the neck, a neck reset and some electrical work: total price guitar and refurb. was less than $2000...and it's as good as new except for the 30+ year old mojo which to me is priceless! try to buy a new Adamas I for that price...and even then it's a new guitar w/o the mojo...or the sound of these original AD I's...I do love the original AD I headstock...it's distinctive and readily identifiable...
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-08-15 4:13 PM (#403660 - in reply to #403616)
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Originally posted by Trader Jim:
Yeah, but it slips off your lap... :D

scuse me, I've got to go bid on it now...
Now THAT'S the TJ we know and like (or at least, tolerate)......
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bvince
Posted 2009-08-15 6:14 PM (#403661 - in reply to #403616)
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Taking a look at the close-ups ... It looks like it has the original 1979 strings on it also. If I had the scratch I'd pick it up cheap and send it to the mothership for a makeover also. Somebody here needs to rescue it.
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Trader Jim
Posted 2009-08-16 3:33 PM (#403662 - in reply to #403616)
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OK, so what happened? Now it's listed as ended, but with a starting bid of 1200 and a bin of 3k with 0 bids???

This is getting weirder by the minute.
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kotadawg
Posted 2009-08-16 5:24 PM (#403663 - in reply to #403616)
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RELISTED
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Trader Jim
Posted 2009-08-16 5:35 PM (#403664 - in reply to #403616)
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Yeah, Blues called me and told me it had a bin of 1200.00 By the time I pulled it up someone had made a bid and made the bin go away. :mad:
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Posted 2009-08-16 8:25 PM (#403665 - in reply to #403616)
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I also noticed that a lot of the "original owner" claims are gone. Looks like a much better description now. (shipping jumped to $95 though) his perrogative.

It will be a lot more interesting to watch now (:
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-08-16 9:47 PM (#403666 - in reply to #403616)
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Trader Jim sez:
...it's only worth a certain amount, and only to VERY few people. (read, us nuts here)
Oh! You mean 'Fanatic' in the dysfunctional sense of the word?
Then you go talk to 'Normal People' about your guitars and say things like;
"It has a real CWK signature." or
"It is Number 6 outta maybe 40 made. :eek: " or
"It was a special order, they only made 24 of them!" or
"They only made this model for less than a year."

And the Normal People are saying "And you paid What for that?" :confused:
[Don't worry, I can send it back to the factory, and for $600 it'll be good as New! :cool: ]
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-08-16 9:56 PM (#403667 - in reply to #403616)
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Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
And the Normal People are saying "And you paid What for that?" :confused:
While the rest of us here are or ...

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jstout
Posted 2009-08-16 10:53 PM (#403668 - in reply to #403616)
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Its over again.................good luck
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stephent28
Posted 2009-08-16 10:54 PM (#403669 - in reply to #403616)
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Pulled again.
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-08-16 11:08 PM (#403670 - in reply to #403616)
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stephent28
Posted 2009-08-16 11:33 PM (#403671 - in reply to #403616)
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Sweet deal with Henry , eh?
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lanaki
Posted 2009-08-16 11:33 PM (#403672 - in reply to #403616)
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it weren't me. shucky darn!
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-08-17 12:07 AM (#403673 - in reply to #403616)
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By luck I saw Henry's second CL ad 15 minutes after he posted it. Fortunately I kept his phone number from his first CL listing.
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Trader Jim
Posted 2009-08-17 5:46 AM (#403674 - in reply to #403616)
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Tim in Tidewater
Posted 2009-08-17 7:13 AM (#403675 - in reply to #403616)
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It would figure, I had the high bid too...
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MusicMishka
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Details?
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jstout
Posted 2009-08-17 10:43 AM (#403677 - in reply to #403616)
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Originally posted by MusicMishka:
Details?
It sold for $1200...............good luck
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BluesSailor
Posted 2009-08-17 11:12 AM (#403678 - in reply to #403616)
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Fantastic, it will be local.

Now I'll have the opportunity to torture myself for hesitating and talking myself out of it when I saw the BIN on EBay at $1200.00.

He who hesitates......

Great catch Iffy!

Blues
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jstout
Posted 2009-08-17 11:26 AM (#403679 - in reply to #403616)
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2ifbyC, my apology for posting the sale price,I didnt realize you bought it,I guess you had him on the phone while I was emailing him........good luck
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-08-17 11:46 AM (#403680 - in reply to #403616)
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I called Henry on his first CL ad and made an offer. By that time he had put it on eBay and wouldn't deal. This was before he changed his description. I wrote if off at that point.

But when I saw the second CL listing, posted yesterday @ 4:30 PM, I called again. After he checked eBay and saw that a bid had erased the BIN, he contacted me and sold me the git later last night.

Tim,
Did you contact him also? He did say someone else wanted to buy it. He said since I called first it was mine if I wanted it?

jstout,
Hey, no prob! It's still on CL, so any one could have found it. Besides, one thing to remember about CL sales, normally only two people know what the final selling price was... So ya might have been the 'other guy'!
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WillaMuse
Posted 2009-08-17 12:11 PM (#403681 - in reply to #403616)
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C O N G R A T S, Iffy!

;)
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MusicMishka
Posted 2009-08-17 12:35 PM (#403682 - in reply to #403616)
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Alrighty then, this case is closed...well, almost...
Congrats Johnny!
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AlanM
Posted 2009-08-17 1:02 PM (#403683 - in reply to #403616)
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Why do I get the feeling that there was some HIGH-stakes gackground activity in all this?!?!?

A little bit of bluffing...a little bit of legerdemain... a little bit of misdirection. I'm guessing that Iffy ended up with a GREAT guitar for a song! Congrats, Iffy!

Are those canary feathers in the corner of your mouth?
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-08-17 1:39 PM (#403684 - in reply to #403616)
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Originally posted by AlanM:
Are those canary feathers in the corner of your mouth?
<chuckle> Sure does appear like I'm guilty of all the above... But if ya check the time line, I had given up on it twix the two CL listings. After Moody, Beal and Mike chimed in, I thought,"Great, missed out on another one!"

But the second CL listing was the 'green restart flag'. Some of us here have encouraged folks to use that phone. That was what made the difference this time, two calls.

I will not ever use subterfuge to obtain a git. I'm just not that way. BUT, I will walk through doors that others may not find or choose to ignore...

So, yes...
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AlanM
Posted 2009-08-17 1:56 PM (#403685 - in reply to #403616)
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Originally posted by 2ifbyC:
Originally posted by AlanM:
Are those canary feathers in the corner of your mouth?
<chuckle> Sure does appear like I'm guilty of all the above... But if ya check the time line, I had given up on it twix the two CL listings. After Moody, Beal and Mike chimed in, I thought,"Great, missed out on another one!"

But the second CL listing was the 'green restart flag'. Some of us here have encouraged folks to use that phone. That was what made the difference this time, two calls.

I will not ever use subterfuge to obtain a git. I'm just not that way. BUT, I will walk through doors that others may not find or choose to ignore...

So, yes...
Great story! And, that's REALLY what I figured happened, but I couldn't pass up the opportunity to tweak ya juuuuuuuust a tiny bit! After all: you DID get the girl!
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-08-17 2:12 PM (#403686 - in reply to #403616)
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Originally posted by AlanM:
but I couldn't pass up the opportunity to tweak ya juuuuuuuust a tiny bit! After all: you DID get the girl!
Glad I've never done that...

... and she'll be heading up to the MS for her prom preps!
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AlanM
Posted 2009-08-17 2:24 PM (#403687 - in reply to #403616)
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Originally posted by 2ifbyC:
Glad I've never done that...
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No, never! Perish the thought!
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lanaki
Posted 2009-08-17 2:35 PM (#403688 - in reply to #403616)
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i'm quite happy for ya', iffy! attaboy.
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Tim in Tidewater
Posted 2009-08-17 3:17 PM (#403689 - in reply to #403616)
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Yes, I was the other party iffy. Henry sent me an email and apologized this morning. I just was working through most of the weekend and as they say, timing is everything. I kicked in a higher offer for more than you paid on ebay late Saturday night but that darn increment system just took it to the next bid higher than the standing bid. I missed that there had been a BIN, good thing too because I was several hundred over that :)

Congrats & enjoy! Hope to get a chance to play her at one of the SSJ's.
TNT
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-08-17 3:50 PM (#403690 - in reply to #403616)
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Tim,

Wow, that makes the acquisition even more interesting!

Just to clarify a bit, I never did bid on the Ebay listing. He had the CL ad out first and that's when I first called him. Then everything went blurry on eBay and I gave up.

It was that second CL ad that I responded to yesterday that did the deed. In fact, he was out bass fishing when I called him yesterday PM.

When he got back in and checked his ad, he saw that the BIN was negated. That's when he contacted me. I PP'd him at 10:37 last night.

So, yes, the timing was incredible!

BTW, his email to you was very considerate. Not many folk would do that 'out dere'.

The actual condition of the git will determine if I bring it to the SSSJ (OK) or she goes right on up to the MS (not OK).

Thanx for your understanding!
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-08-17 4:06 PM (#403691 - in reply to #403616)
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Iffers, if you bought that Adamas for $1200 (as noted in a previous posting) then you got one of the great deals of the year. Congrats......
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MusicMishka
Posted 2009-08-17 4:42 PM (#403692 - in reply to #403616)
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Iffy, do yourself and the guitar a favor: do what I did woth mine and send it to the MS immediatly...you will be so glad you did...trust me!
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MusicMishka
Posted 2009-08-17 4:43 PM (#403693 - in reply to #403616)
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Iffy, do yourself and the guitar a favor: do what I did with mine and send it to the MS immediatly...you will be so glad you did...trust me!
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-08-17 4:50 PM (#403694 - in reply to #403616)
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Originally posted by MusicMishka:
Iffy, do yourself and the guitar a favor: do what I did with mine and send it to the MS immediatly...you will be so glad you did...trust me!
TJ said the same thing today. But it's already on it's way to me...
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-08-17 5:06 PM (#403695 - in reply to #403616)
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OK, just got a hold of the seller as he was walking in to ship it. He's gonna wait for further instructions.

So here's the story, he says he bought it new at 'XYZ123' Music Store in Jan '82 and no longer has his receipt. He offered to contact the store to see if they have a record of the sale.

If so, could he send it to the MS for warranty repair?
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-08-17 5:21 PM (#403696 - in reply to #403616)
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What would be covered under warranty? It doesn't cover normal wear and tear. Is there some part of the guitar that's defective?
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-08-17 5:32 PM (#403697 - in reply to #403616)
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Good point. Don't know.

I'm not trying to get out of further costs. Just that if this would be legit, then why not?

Ergo, my inquiries.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-08-17 5:39 PM (#403698 - in reply to #403616)
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Hey Iffers, don't sweat it. I'm not trying to call you on something or accuse you of something. If it had issues that should be covered, then it should be covered. But almost everything I saw in the pictures seems to be normal wear and tear.

And if you remember from the description, the seller commented on the neck pulling away from the body. If he's talking about the heel of the guitar, then perhaps that should be covered. If he's talking about the fretboard over the top, well, we all know better on that one.....
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-08-17 5:47 PM (#403699 - in reply to #403616)
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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
I'm not trying to call you on something or accuse you of something.
moody,

That didn't cross my mind. Your point is valid and I hadn't look at the warranty situation in that light.

This is my first true opportunity to utilize the wizards at the MS and don't want to mess up.

That said, what is the best protocol for sending the Adamas to the MS for evaluation; email, phone, ship to addy, etc.?

TIA
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-08-17 5:51 PM (#403700 - in reply to #403616)
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Ship it off to me and I'll take a look at it.

Seriously, give them a call, either Kim or John. They can supply you with a return number and address. When they get it they can advise you on what needs to be done.....
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bvince
Posted 2009-08-17 5:53 PM (#403701 - in reply to #403616)
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Iffy,

Congrats also on the grab! I'm so glad you got it before I became tempted to bid on it. My wife would have cut off mnards. The MS would have been my move on that also. Too bad all of us with the good advice can't just take up a collection to get it done for you also (:

Good Luck and Happy Trails!
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-08-17 6:01 PM (#403702 - in reply to #403616)
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Originally posted by bvince:
Too bad all of us with the good advice can't just take up a collection to get it done for you also
Don't even go there! There's too many worthy efforts to support here...

Good info and guidance is all I seek.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2009-08-17 6:05 PM (#403703 - in reply to #403616)
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Ship it off to me and I'll take a look at it.
Mine sat in his living room for at least a week...I wouldn't worry about Paulie's inspection...lol (Paul, I laughed for 5 minutes on that one)..
Iffy, answer your phone...lol
I'll call again ... ;) :D
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-08-17 6:25 PM (#403704 - in reply to #403616)
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Thanx for the info Mike!

OK, I got a plan...

Thanx to all for the 'well wishes' and info!
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Trader Jim
Posted 2009-08-17 6:45 PM (#403705 - in reply to #403616)
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Boy, today was a banner day for phone calls. Ronnie called me, (as usual) Johnny called me to make sure I wasn't mad at him for buying it, and Music Mike called me, (I think by mistake thinking it was Johnny) just to chat. I'm glad someone got it who will rescue it. I was thinking about it, but regained my senses before I hit the button. That will make a great (and rare) guitar for Johnny. Congrats Iffy!!
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stephent28
Posted 2009-08-17 7:57 PM (#403706 - in reply to #403616)
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Nice one. Didn't realize you were into the manly necks tho.....if it turns out to be too wide for you, I got a couple of nice ones we could talk trade over.


Course as former Coloradans, you and the misses would have to drive it over to me and stay a few days!
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-08-17 8:33 PM (#403707 - in reply to #403616)
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Originally posted by stephent28:
manly necks...

...stay a few days!
This will be my 6th 'manly' if 1 3/4" counts. The Classic (2") can be a stretch though.

Would love to drop in on ya'll if we make it to Alison's next year. Patty and I would have to swing by 740 Iola, Aurora to check out our first home ('69)...
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Gallerinski
Posted 2009-08-17 8:46 PM (#403708 - in reply to #403616)
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1-7/8 is wideneck
1-3/4 is standard width
1-11/16 is narrow neck
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fletcher
Posted 2009-08-17 10:29 PM (#403709 - in reply to #403616)
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Iffy,
Congrats on pulling off a great deal! Hard to believe this will be your first dealings with the Mothership though. Have you always done your own work in the past?
If you need to raise funds for the spa treatment, I'd be glad to take that eclipse you got off Chris last week off your hands...
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-08-17 10:38 PM (#403710 - in reply to #403616)
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Originally posted by fletcher:
your first dealings with the Mothership ...

... I'd be glad to take that eclipse you got off Chris last week off your hands...
Fletcher,
It will be my first guitar sent to them. I've had many dealings via John.

... Might take ya up on that. Remind me after I receive it...
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