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Location: Newington, CT | Ok...Now I've noticed that we guys tend to refer to guitars as "she" and "her." Heck, my favorite is named Becky, and the others will receive female names also. Also, most of my guitar interaction has "her" on my lap, while I tickle "her" up and down with my left-hand, and kinda pet (for lack of a better word) "her" with my right (I'm right-handed).
Furthermore, I understand that the very shape of a guitar is usually suggestive of a feminine form. So, all that put together makes it seem obvious that I would think of each of my guitars as "she."
Stated another way...doing all that above-described interaction with an instrument that I thought of as masculine probably would feel a bit odd to me. And I'm VERY secure in my masculinity (or at least I always thought I was)!
So, for the rest of you: Do you think of guitars differently? Are they "he" or "she"? Does it depend on the guitar? Electric? Acoustic? Are they "it"? Are their more "manly" or masculine guitars? More "womanly" or feminine guitars?
Couple of predictions: (1) I think the women's responses will be the more interesting. At least to me.
(2) A lot of guys will read this to see what the women will say, but then won't respond. I mean, what guy DOESN'T want further insight -- ANY insight -- into how women think?!?!!?? |
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | My guitars are my guitars. Neither male nor female. They are "its". My CAR on the other hand, is a she. ('96 Blazer) When I had Volkswagons, the beetles were he's and the bus was a she. (Don't ask. I have no idea.) |
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Location: Newington, CT | WOT: Ooof! I just noticed I did a "there/their" flip above. Being a linguist by training, those things are particularly embarrassing...My apologies! Don't let it derail you!
Canterbury: For some reason, I thought for sure your guitars would NOT be "its." Not sure why. |
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Location: Vernon CT | I don't name them,but,do tend to refer to mine and others as "She" as in: "She's gorgeous" or "She has a great tone" |
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Location: Right now? | Yes, I thought Alison would be a 'namer', too. I name mines. But I do it so I can remember which one is which, haha. Mine are usually girls, except for my CL 1119-4 that patch sold me. That one is named "Paddy". Yes, guitars for the most part are shaped like women, but I have seen a few that definitely remind me of MEN. I might post some pics later ...
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Location: Newington, CT | Originally posted by WillaMuse:
Yes, I thought Alison would be a 'namer', too. I name mines. But I do it so I can remember which one is which, haha. Mine are usually girls, except for my CL 1119-4 that patch sold me. That one is named "Paddy". Yes, guitars for the most part are shaped like women, but I have seen a few that definitely remind me of MEN. I might post some pics later ...
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Willa Lol! Too funny, Willa! They've ALL looked like women to me, but that may be just my singleness doing the interpreting!
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | I do name them: the LX, the Adamas, "my yellow guitars" (Morgan Monroes), the Parlor, the classical, my Legend, the Hamer, and "Patches", the beat up Yamaha - the only one that has a true name - but I didn't name it, a customer did. |
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Location: Newington, CT | Originally posted by WillaMuse:
Yes, I thought Alison would be a 'namer', too. I name mines. But I do it so I can remember which one is which, haha. Mine are usually girls, except for my CL 1119-4 that patch sold me. That one is named "Paddy". Yes, guitars for the most part are shaped like women, but I have seen a few that definitely remind me of MEN. I might post some pics later ...
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Willa Hey, Willa! I just remembered...it's my 1681-5 who's named Becky...you have one of those coming to you! Got a name for her yet? |
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Location: Right now? | Hey, Willa! I just remembered...it's my 1681-5 who's named Becky...you have one of those coming to you! Got a name for her yet?
Well, Alan, I'm thinking about it. By the way, I love the name Becky/Rebecca. I have two beautiful aunts with that name.
The 1681-5 is SO beautiful, isn't she? I am very excited and happy to have grabbed her like I did, especially considering the other acquisitions I have scored this year.
Were you bidding on her? I have been going back and forth thinking about getting an '08C, and almost did the other day from Ebarf (it went for like, $1700!). This one will keep me at bay for while with regard to THAT 'jones'.
I am open to suggestions. She needs something very sexy and a wee bit exotic, what with all that black and lovely binding, etc., don't you think? Maybe "Feleena" like the old Marty Robbins song ...
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | The only guitar with a given name is my -5 Epi Sheraton II. She wails with soul, so she's Aretha.
Then there's the Pacemaker, Patriot and Flag. Easy IDs... |
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Location: Right now? | The only guitar with a given name is my -5 Epi Sheraton II. She wails with soul, so she's Aretha.
Perfect!
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Location: Yucaipa, California | ...no names... they are just tools for the job and refered to as such: Ovation, Les Paul, Strat, Ibanez......... banjo >>>***ducks and runs>>> |
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Location: Tuscany, Italy | Well, in my language "the guitar" is " la chitarra" i.e., feminine (gramm.). So I can refer to my guitar definitely as a "she" or a neutral "it" (but better she ;) ).
The bass (il basso) is masculine (gramm.).... and so on..
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Location: Yalova/Turkey | If you look at languages which use different genders for all nouns like for example German, the guitar is "she" (die Gitarre), I guess it´s the same in Spanish and French (la guitarra, la guitare). Also Italian chitarra is fem. If so many languages are of one opinion... The guitar must be "she", as far as I am concerned. |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | There's that one, 'n' THAT one, 'n' that OTHER one, 'n' the one'needs strings.
Nope don't name 'em or sex 'em.
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Location: Newington, CT | Russian guitars are "she's". So, I believe, are Polish, Ukrainian, Czech, etc...I think they're all "she's" in all of "slav-land."
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Location: Newington, CT | Originally posted by WillaMuse:
Hey, Willa! I just remembered...it's my 1681-5 who's named Becky...you have one of those coming to you! Got a name for her yet?
Well, Alan, I'm thinking about it. By the way, I love the name Becky/Rebecca. I have two beautiful aunts with that name.
The 1681-5 is SO beautiful, isn't she? I am very excited and happy to have grabbed her like I did, especially considering the other acquisitions I have scored this year.
Were you bidding on her? I have been going back and forth thinking about getting an '08C, and almost did the other day from Ebarf (it went for like, $1700!). This one will keep me at bay for while with regard to THAT 'jones'.
I am open to suggestions. She needs something very sexy and a wee bit exotic, what with all that black and lovely binding, etc., don't you think? Maybe "Feleena" like the old Marty Robbins song ...
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Willa
I'm glad you like Becky. The "Becky" I play is named after the heroine in one of my favorite books of all time, who is herself named after a childhood (really young adulthood) crush of mine. She is indeed a genuine, authentic, no-foolin', certified, approved, signed and sealed Rebecca.
By the way, for great names, there's always "Willow," which your name always reminds me of...great guitar imagery in that name.
You are in for a serious treat! I can't WAIT to hear all about it! When does she arrive? I'm like a little kid myself, waiting for YOUR guitar to arrive at YOUR place!
Hmmmm...wonder if that's a bit odd... |
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Location: Reisterstown, Maryland | I don't name my guitars or refer to them in any way other than the model name. The other time I've ever referred to any as 'she' was here and that's cause everyone else did.
If anyone ever figures out how we women think, please let me know, so I'll understand me
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Location: On the Coast - Halfway between SF & OR | I grew-up with National Reso-Phonic guitars and lap steels - all of which were he's.
I got my first acoustic guitar in 1968 - an ovation deluxe balladeer which I still have - and always referred to it as she.
All the ovations I have gotten since then have also been she's until I got a Tornado which seems to be a he.
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Location: Right now? | I don't know if there was much of a bidding game. I think the post was four days old when I saw it, so I just cut to the chase, as they say, and gave him his asking price. MusicMike says I did well on the purchase. I told him if I ever sell her, I'd let him have her, so he's first in line!
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Location: Newington, CT | Originally posted by ladylaw:
I don't name my guitars or refer to them in any way other than the model name. The other time I've ever referred to any as 'she' was here and that's cause everyone else did.
If anyone ever figures out how we women think, please let me know, so I'll understand me
Anita Lol! If you re-read what I wrote, I DID say only that it was additional insight into that great mysterious universe that is the feminine mind.
I'm pretty sure WE (guys, that is) will never get to the end of THAT pursuit! |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Like others have said, my guitars are 'It' and referred to by model...
The Adamas, the Oh-7, the Green 1111, the K-1111, the Sweet T, the T-12, the New T, the Old T, the Viper, the V, the Epiphonie, that poor Trekker-thing, and My First Guitar (that I never play). |
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Location: Brisbane Australia | Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
My First Guitar (that I never play). Your "first" guitar!!
It's probably unplayable :D
My guitars are just "the" Patriot, CL, GP etc
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Location: Right now? | OK. Read the thread requesting help with Epiphones. Arthur posted photos of guitars that definitely look like 'males' to me ~ based on that whole feminine shape thingy ... |
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Location: Pennsylvania | My guitars are all 'its' and referred to only by Make/Model. FYI, I am a 'she'. |
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Location: London, UK | I find this endlessly fascinating. I don't know how or why, but to me, different instruments definitely have different sexes. Thus, my little collection goes:
Rickenbacker 4003 ('Ricky') - Male
Mania VTB-4BS ('Woody') - Male
Dean Stylist Archtop ('Dixie') - Female
Ovation Magnum ('Tom'* or 'Maggie') - Hermaphrodite!
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Location: 6 String Ranch | I think I only have two now that are named.
1) A National Delphi that is called Sonny. Sonny Landreth's name is inlayed in the f/b (I bought it that way) and I had him sign it too.
2) A National Tricone totally done in 59 Caddy styling, called the Caddy, but you would have guessed that, wouldn't you?
3) Any others that have names are what they are, The Longneck, The Opry(Opry Tak) the CJ, etc
There are two others, one I call Goldie, but it's a Tele done in gold Duco paint and a Collings CJvarnish custom that is called "the Lost Sonoman" It was ordered by a guy on the Collings forum named Sonoman and long story short, he had to pass when the guitar was delivered and I got it. |
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Location: Brisbane Australia | "Collings CJvarnish custom that is called "the Lost Sonoman" It was ordered by a guy on the Collings forum named Sonoman and long story short, he had to pass when the guitar was delivered and I got it.:
Beal is that the one with the tortoise shell trim?
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Location: Budd Lake, NJ | Mine? The guitars are feminmine, the bass is masculine, and the bluegrassers (mando, banjo and violin) are more neutral than anything else.
For me, what's interesting is their names, when they have them.
The Balladeer is Gertrude, "Spear maiden."
The Tornado is "Jazzey."
The Custom Elite is "Jewel."
The Classical is "Johanna."
The shallow-bowler is "Rosa."
The Patriot is "Betsy."
The Pacemaker is "Gloria."
The '97 is "Princess."
The Guild classical is "Jacquita."
The Steinie bass is "Sugar," even though masculine.
And, the blugrassers are "Plink," "Twang," and "Shriek."
All their names are meaningful, and this isn't silly, per se--just fun. :D
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It's hard enough remembering what is in the cases, let alone what their names are! |
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Location: Newington, CT | Originally posted by maxdaddy7271:
This is truly silly. Welllllllll...I DID kind of give fair warning in the subject of the initial post... |
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Location: Newington, CT | Originally posted by Jewel's Mom a/k/a Joisey Goil #1:
Mine? The guitars are feminmine, the bass is masculine, and the bluegrassers (mando, banjo and violin) are more neutral than anything else.
For me, what's interesting is their names, when they have them.
The Balladeer is Gertrude, "Spear maiden."
The Tornado is "Jazzey."
The Custom Elite is "Jewel."
The Classical is "Johanna."
The shallow-bowler is "Rosa."
The Patriot is "Betsy."
The Pacemaker is "Gloria."
The '97 is "Princess."
The Guild classical is "Jacquita."
The Steinie bass is "Sugar," even though masculine.
And, the blugrassers are "Plink," "Twang," and "Shriek."
All their names are meaningful, and this isn't silly, per se--just fun. :D
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | My guitars are my guitars. Neither male nor female. They are "its". +1 Alison
My kids have names; my guitars (while some are very special) are guitars...I put a piece of tape on the outside of each case with the model number for quick identification from each other... |
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Location: Michigan | Glenn called the pacemaker I got from him Grandpa,(1969 shiney bowl) so I have stuck with that. Can't change its name. |
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Location: Brisbane Australia | Originally posted by Beal:
AJ, yes it is
It's hard enough remembering what is in the cases, let alone what their names are! Bill, that's a sensational guitar!!
I played it and I loved it, got me seriously Collings'd!!
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Well. I got distracted and lost time to add to my last post.
I think it's great that some name their guitars...I just have too many to be able at my age to remember them...lol
I do have two sets of Twins as I refer to them: the "A twins" and the "O twins": and the '48 is my D-28 and the '47 is the Slothead Adamas RI...but human names for all 29 would be a stretch... |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I've never named a guitar.
But in general I consider all my possessions to be "female" in the sense that I will say things like "she's a beauty", "listen to her sing", etc. |
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Location: On the Coast - Halfway between SF & OR | No names for mine either; just the he/she designations as posted earlier.
It will be interesting to watch future posts of all those who refer to their guitars only as "it's" to see if that is always true. |
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There may come a time when I get a really spectacular guitar and say, "She's a Beauty!"
But that didn't happen with the '07C, the Adamas, or the K-1111...
So I wouldn't hold my breath for it.
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Location: Location Location Location | Never name my guitars. They're guitars, and I love them and appreciate their beauty. But they're just guitars. I always cringe when I hear someone call them by name. |
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Location: Upper Left USA | I think I prefer to use a naming system stolen from the way Southern Californicans label their Highways and Interstates...
"The_________"
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The Pacemonster
The Koa Faced Viper
The KoaLAVa
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Location: Central Massachusetts | Originally posted by MusicMishka:
.I put a piece of tape on the outside of each case with the model number for quick identification from each other... Mike, this method works on kids as well. |
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Location: Newington, CT | Originally posted by dvd:
Originally posted by MusicMishka:
.I put a piece of tape on the outside of each case with the model number for quick identification from each other... Mike, this method works on kids as well. |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by MusicMishka:
I put a piece of tape on the outside of each case with the model number for quick identification from each other... I was going to do that, too... but it's not that hard to tell an 8158 from a 9158... |
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Location: SoCal | Originally posted by Gallerinski:
I've never named a guitar. +1 with one exception. I called my Adamas I 12 string Big Blue. Now everybody here who has one calls them the same thing. So that guitar has been demoted to just being the 12 string..... |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Gallerinski:
I've never named a guitar. Actually, I take that back. I think I came up with the name "JL3" |
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How does that help identify a single ovation? ALL of mine (except the 'male' tornado) have fine rounded backsides. |
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Location: Reisterstown, Maryland | Originally posted by fletcher:
"J Lo" ?
How does that help identify a single ovation? ALL of mine (except the 'male' tornado) have fine rounded backsides. Men can have nice fine rounded backsides too.
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| Well, I never thought of it that much. But I guess if I am going to have something that is good looking and sits on my lap, it would be male! ;) :D :o Really wishful thinking on my part right now.
If I had a Balladeer from the 1970s, I'd probably end up calling it "Croce".
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Location: Right now? | But I guess if I am going to have something that is good looking and sits on my lap, it would be male!
LOL, Michelle. Ditto that ~ fer sure. However, as I've already mentioned, I name my guitars.
I will have to name this one "Frida", after Frida Kahlo, because she is so deliciously colorful!
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| Originally posted by WillaMuse:
But I guess if I am going to have something that is good looking and sits on my lap, it would be male!
LOL, Michelle. Ditto that ~ fer sure. However, as I've already mentioned, I name my guitars.
I will have to name this one "Frida", after Frida Kahlo, because she is so deliciously colorful!
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Location: Newington, CT | Originally posted by Guitarzannie:
Well, I never thought of it that much. But I guess if I am going to have something that is good looking and sits on my lap, it would be male! ;) :D :o Really wishful thinking on my part right now.
If I had a Balladeer from the 1970s, I'd probably end up calling it "Croce".
Michelle There...NOW yer a'gettin' into the spirit! Isn't it true that a guitar interacts with its/her/his player any NUMBER of different ways? Doesn't it/he/she DEFINITELY have a personality, and a color, and a character, and a general "feel," and a voice, and a voice quility, and any number of anthropomorphizing characteristics (including a shape)?
Also, we ALL speak of them in tones sometimes reserved for loved ones. "She was meant for me!" Or, "I wanted to show her off to everyone!" Or "I love how she sings." Or "She has the voice of an angel." And more...
Sounds as though MANY of us think of them as far more than just "its," and they touch us on levels deeper than using them as just "tools" or "instruments."
Rather, don't they kind of become extensions of ourselves? I mean, I speak several different languages, but the guitar adds a whole different dimension to my ability to express myself.
And, don't our spouses, when it's good, become like extensions of ourselves (and we of them) so that we are bigger, better, more complete, more whole, healthier, happier?
I'm single now, and my ex-wife and I had about two good years -- out of 15 -- when she was not drunk each day and night. Those years were two of the happiest of my life. And, it was because she and I were extensions of each other. There were many moments where I saw my influences in her, and she saw that in me, and we reveled in those feelings. Then, when it got bad, those feelings receded into the distance, and I FELT them withdraw. And that was absolutely heart-rending, because there seemed to be nothing I could do but watch my love recede into the distance.
Now, the only way to approach that kind of feeling is to sit down on a comfy couch with one of my "girls" and play "her" for several hours. It's a similar feeling in magnitude, but different in substance...almost a reverse Pygmalion type of thing.
So, my guitars will never substitute for interacting with a good woman at a deep level, but they are the best "Plan B" I can get to for the time being, and, because I'm DEFINITELY a he, that's why they're ALL "she."
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| AlanM,
Yes, guitars are definitely an extension of our personalities. I'd like to be able to use music to touch people's souls. And each one has a different voice, which explains why we need different ones for different tunes.
A guitar will never replace interacting with a good man at a deep level, but it can be used to meet a good man! While we some times judge guitars on the basis of looks, they can't judge us back!
I'm sorry you had to go through all of that with your ex. It must have been hell.
BTW, when I tried a contour bowl, I felt like it was the most intimate experience I had with a guitar. Unfortunately, I just didn't like the sound of the koa top.
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Location: Newington, CT | Thanks for the thoughts, Michelle! It WAS rough with the ex, but I had lots and lots of things to help me see it through, so I can't complain too much.
To your point about the guitars: yes, that was exactly what I meant. When the depth of an important relationship recedes from us, we search for profundity elsewhere, and we sometimes find it in the inanimate things that then seem to take on personalities and human characteristics of their own. I suspect that is the source of much of poetry!
Trees and flowers, hills and mountains, stars and guitars...all get names eventually if they are important enough to us. |
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| Originally posted by AlanM:
Trees and flowers, hills and mountains, stars and guitars...all get names eventually if they are important enough to us. Yep! I haven't named my guitar yet, though.
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Location: Miami | I love this post! When I only had one guitar (a Tangent at the time) I called her "my wife" after my real wife divorced me. (My new wife was nicer anyway). When I upgraded to two guitars I got all polygamous and called them my two wives. One day someone asked me about one of them "what's her name?" That was a momentous day in my life, because once I named my two axes they became very personal.
I now have 2 and soon to be 3 Elite 1778T's:
Beyonce (because she is black and beautiful), Rosalita (or Rosie) because she is red like a rose, and Nicky (because the pewter reminds me of a nickel).
On the non-O front, my silver Strat is named Sylvia and my Gretsch bass guitar is named Gretchen. And I had a 6778 LX named Lexy (after "LX").
They're easy to remember because the names reflect the color or the name of the guitar.
But as I mentioned, when I gave them a name (especially my two main gigging axes, Beyonce and Rosalita), they became even more a part of me. People even ask me how they're doing! "How's Rosie?"
I don't think everyone should name or not name, or genderize or not genderize, however they see fit! But I agree with Old Man Arthur's comment, it's weird to say "he's a beauty" about a guitar. I would have to say guitars (like cars) tend to sound more feminine.
Rosie and Beyonce are definitely extensions of myself, especially when I lose myself in song. They really become my other half. |
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | James Taylor calls his guitar "he".
"Me and my guitar, always in the same mood
I am mostly flesh and bone, he is mostly wood
Never does grow impatient for the changes I don't know
If he can't go to heaven maybe I don't want to go."
Now let's see, what rhymes with carbon fiber and fiberglass? :D |
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Location: SoCal | I've finally named my guitars. One's called "the rebuilt Legend", one's called "the 87 Collectors", one's called "the OFC guitar", etc. I think they all like their names....... |
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Location: closely held secret | Wow, Paul. You get much more personal than I do. I've got the red one, the blue one, the natural one, the nylon-stringed one, the 12 string one, the koa one.
Oh, and the electric one and the new electric one.
It helps in that this way my wife actually knows which one I'm talking about. "1587" or "LongNeck" just gets me a blank look. |
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Location: Newington, CT | Originally posted by Joe Tuñón:
I love this post! When I only had one guitar (a Tangent at the time) I called her "my wife" after my real wife divorced me. (My new wife was nicer anyway). When I upgraded to two guitars I got all polygamous and called them my two wives. One day someone asked me about one of them "what's her name?" That was a momentous day in my life, because once I named my two axes they became very personal.
I now have 2 and soon to be 3 Elite 1778T's:
Beyonce (because she is black and beautiful), Rosalita (or Rosie) because she is red like a rose, and Nicky (because the pewter reminds me of a nickel).
On the non-O front, my silver Strat is named Sylvia and my Gretsch bass guitar is named Gretchen. And I had a 6778 LX named Lexy (after "LX").
They're easy to remember because the names reflect the color or the name of the guitar.
But as I mentioned, when I gave them a name (especially my two main gigging axes, Beyonce and Rosalita), they became even more a part of me. People even ask me how they're doing! "How's Rosie?"
I don't think everyone should name or not name, or genderize or not genderize, however they see fit! But I agree with Old Man Arthur's comment, it's weird to say "he's a beauty" about a guitar. I would have to say guitars (like cars) tend to sound more feminine.
Rosie and Beyonce are definitely extensions of myself, especially when I lose myself in song. They really become my other half. Bingo!
Guitars -- Now it's personal!
Looks as though we cover the gamut in our thoughts about our axes.
I wonder what the "single guy" factor is. I guess, if I were married, I might downplay the fact that "Becky" was sitting on my lap and I was caressing her neck and playing her. |
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"He" or "she?" Silly topic...but interesting.