FYI mac computers
alpep
Posted 2009-08-26 7:48 PM (#401051)
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myths

they
never crash

never have any problems

are easy to operate

fix themselves


carry on
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Beal
Posted 2009-08-26 7:51 PM (#401052 - in reply to #401051)
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What's a Mac?
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-08-26 8:18 PM (#401053 - in reply to #401051)
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I thought Mac\'s could do anything?
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Trader Jim
Posted 2009-08-26 8:29 PM (#401054 - in reply to #401051)
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Thank you Al. Maintenance is the key for any computer. Keep it clean and defragged, and just watch where you go on the net.
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alpep
Posted 2009-08-26 8:50 PM (#401055 - in reply to #401051)
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got a g4 for recording and it locks up as soon as you turn it on.

tried to reload the OS it still locks up

anyone know how to clean the drive?
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fletcher
Posted 2009-08-26 9:40 PM (#401056 - in reply to #401051)
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Originally posted by alpep:
myths

they
never crash
never have any problems
are easy to operate
fix themselves
carry on
Hows about some additional info on the computer first. It's a 10+ year old machine with an unknown background after all.
What OS are you trying to load?
Newer OS may require more RAM than the machine currently has.
Need info to give intelligent answers..
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-08-26 10:01 PM (#401057 - in reply to #401051)
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I learned something today....



Well, this year... After TWO computers have died on me, I learned to back-up my information.
On Something External... on that other drive don't help when the whole computer croaks.
This computer that I have now has a slot for an HP Pocket Media Drive (320GB)
So now I have Finally learned that when my computer croaks, all my stuff croaks with it.
I guess that this applies to Macs too.
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CrimsonLake
Posted 2009-08-26 10:02 PM (#401058 - in reply to #401051)
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:D
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TAFKAR
Posted 2009-08-26 10:22 PM (#401059 - in reply to #401051)
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I'm with Fletcher. What operating system are you (trying to) using?

A G4 is fairly old, and won't run newer operating systems. The previous user may have upgraded the operating system beyond the ability of the computer. Finding an older version of the OS and doing a clean install may produce a better result.
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fletcher
Posted 2009-08-26 10:24 PM (#401060 - in reply to #401051)
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Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
I learned something today....

Well, this year... After TWO computers have died on me, I learned to back-up my information.
On Something External... on that other drive don't help when the whole computer croaks.
I guess that this applies to Macs too.


Sorry, but that 2nd INTERNAL drive works just fine as a back-up source.
I usually use 2 internal drives set into 4 partitions.
Partition 1 houses the OS
Partition 1 (second drive)houses working files
Partition 2 is the back-up to the working files, and
Partition 2 (second drive) houses a clean (unactivated) system folder.

Unless the processor and BOTH hard drives fail at once, the computer can always be up and running in just a couple of minutes.
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aocid
Posted 2009-08-26 10:40 PM (#401061 - in reply to #401051)
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-08-26 10:43 PM (#401062 - in reply to #401051)
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You guys are too anal about your computers. I just need something to keep up with the porn. That stuff doesn't down load itself, you know.....
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fletcher
Posted 2009-08-26 10:57 PM (#401063 - in reply to #401051)
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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
You guys are too anal about your computers. I just need something to keep up with the porn. That stuff doesn't down load itself, you know.....


Let me guess - you're a Windows user, and damn proud of it too...
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Waskel
Posted 2009-08-26 11:30 PM (#401064 - in reply to #401051)
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Click.
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fletcher
Posted 2009-08-26 11:51 PM (#401065 - in reply to #401051)
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Waskel!!
That was a JOKE!!
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fletcher
Posted 2009-08-27 12:04 AM (#401066 - in reply to #401051)
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OK,
Al,
If you need help formatting your hard drive, installing a new OS or whatever, I'd be glad to help.
If you would like me to send you a pre-formatted drive with the OS installed, I'd be glad to do that for you.
If you would like me to send you another G4 Mac already set up in exchange for yours, just ask.
I'm off.
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Waskel
Posted 2009-08-27 12:11 AM (#401067 - in reply to #401051)
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Oh. Ha ha, then.
Pretty generous offer, Al. Might want to consider it.
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alpep
Posted 2009-08-27 12:55 AM (#401068 - in reply to #401051)
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i have a 500mhz g 4
2 x 256
2 x 512
osX panther

machine came to me running fine loaded with pro tools 6.1

after using it trying to get it to sync with the interfaces it would just hang up.

tried to reset pram and vram
nope
tried to boot by the osx disk
nope

the os is hosed and all I need to do is clear the drive and reinstall.

I can do that.

the computer does not want to cooperate.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2009-08-27 8:41 AM (#401069 - in reply to #401051)
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Computers . . . can't live with them, can't live without them. We're stuck.
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Miguel - BR
Posted 2009-08-27 9:27 AM (#401070 - in reply to #401051)
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Well, after all those years being a cop, I can offer some valuable experience tips:

1) A lousy guitar player playing a high end guitar sounds lousy anyway;

2) A top guitar player playing their niece“s Barbie Toy guitar sounds awesome;

3) A man who carries a gun and does not know how to properly use it will get in serious trouble, sooner or later.

4) Computers are machines just like guitars or guns.

Just food for thought. And, as far as I know, Al is an awesome guitar player.
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Waskel
Posted 2009-08-27 9:37 AM (#401071 - in reply to #401051)
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5) You can kill a computer (Mac or Win) with either a guitar or a gun. I'm just saying.
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BT717
Posted 2009-08-27 11:12 AM (#401072 - in reply to #401051)
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Originally posted by alpep:
i have a 500mhz g 4
2 x 256
2 x 512
osX panther

machine came to me running fine loaded with pro tools 6.1

after using it trying to get it to sync with the interfaces it would just hang up.

tried to reset pram and vram
nope
tried to boot by the osx disk
nope

the os is hosed and all I need to do is clear the drive and reinstall.

I can do that.

the computer does not want to cooperate.
Is there a song in this? ;)

(not trying to make fun of your problem Al)
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alpep
Posted 2009-08-27 3:35 PM (#401073 - in reply to #401051)
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I officially now hate both pc's and macs
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-08-27 5:23 PM (#401074 - in reply to #401051)
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Originally posted by alpep:
I officially now hate both pc's and macs
+1
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-08-27 6:25 PM (#401075 - in reply to #401051)
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Side note:

Patty's desktop got a variation of the 2010 malware yesterday. Nasty scary!!!

Thanx to Al's other POST and the info provided by the 'hive', I used Malwarebytes and the 'puter is now up and running fine so far...

Thanx ya'll!!!!!
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stonebobbo
Posted 2009-08-27 7:47 PM (#401076 - in reply to #401051)
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I haven't had a Mac crash in so long I just need to ask: do they still have the little bomb icon that shows up?




On the other hand, I do know that the blue screen of death is still pervasive ...
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Captain Lovehandles
Posted 2009-08-27 9:52 PM (#401077 - in reply to #401051)
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No, no bomb. They have the spinning beach ball of death now:

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Waskel
Posted 2009-08-27 9:58 PM (#401078 - in reply to #401051)
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stephent28
Posted 2009-08-27 10:00 PM (#401079 - in reply to #401051)
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Originally posted by The Wabbit Formerly Known As Waskel:
Now THAT'S funny!
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muzza
Posted 2009-08-28 9:18 AM (#401080 - in reply to #401051)
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Originally posted by alpep:
myths
they never crash
Well, not 'never', but hardly ever.


never have any problems
Same as above...


are easy to operate
Sorry, that ain't no myth.


fix themselves
Who told you that???

carry on using a Mac for almost trouble free computing.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2009-08-28 10:27 AM (#401081 - in reply to #401051)
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Originally posted by Beal:
What's a Mac?
I thought everyone knew: Two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions on a sesame seed bun.
Used to be a "Big Mac" until the recession.
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Captain Lovehandles
Posted 2009-08-28 10:59 AM (#401082 - in reply to #401051)
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I was thinking the same thing Muz. If nothing else, the ARE easy to operate.
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Gallerinski
Posted 2009-08-28 11:17 AM (#401083 - in reply to #401051)
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Never heard of a Mac that could fix itself (although mine makes a mean cup cappucino and gives me a neck rub). No question I'm a huge Mac fanb, but I'll admit there is certainly a lot of hype.

Sorta like when we say that Adamas guitars are bulletproof. I suspect in reality a bullet would have little trouble penetrating a 1687-8.

Would love to see the "Myth Busters" TV show do a Mac/PC thing.
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Weaser P
Posted 2009-08-28 11:42 AM (#401084 - in reply to #401051)
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I work with both pc's and macs and what I find truly obnoxious is the Apple arrogance. I recently had to replace a keyboard which was under warranty. Simple one in-one out move. I called the Apple store where we bought the mac and was told that I could not just walk in, I would have to make an "appointment" online. Really? An "appointment"? "Yes, make an appointment and the local store "concierge" will email you confirming your time. Then, you can come in and talk to a Mac GENIUS to replace the keyboard."

So, when I was approved to walk in, I was told that if I needed a keyboard that day, I would have to buy one and then return it when my warranted keyboard came in. I'm thinking "Hmm...they're going to send me a refurbished keyboard and when I bring this one back in after 5 days with nothing wrong with it, they're going to re-package this one up and sell it as refurbished. Why can't I just keep THIS one?" but no go. I'd have to come back in 5 days to get my new refurbished keyboard.

Yeah. Genius.
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alpep
Posted 2009-08-28 11:53 AM (#401085 - in reply to #401051)
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understand that part of what I was saying is tongue in cheek.

I have worked with apples since the IIc and pc's since the 8086's and the ibm 360 is what I learned on.

so I have a bunch of experience with both platforms.
my biggest gripe is that everyone touts mac as the perfect machine. it is not.

I bought what I thought would be a plug and play recording setup and within 3 days the G4 was going squirrely on me.
Believe me I am very analytical and systematic in how I address and solve these sorts of problems.
this problem is beyond my scope of expertise.

I want to thank fletcher for stepping up e mailing me some solutions and offering me a system to replace this non working one.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-08-28 11:55 AM (#401086 - in reply to #401051)
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Originally posted by Capt.Lovehandles, Head Counselor:
I was thinking the same thing Muz. If nothing else, the ARE easy to operate.
My wife has a mac, I have a pc. I've never thought her computer was easy to operate. Once you KNOW how to do something on it, it becomes easy. Figuring out out to do something on it is a different story. They are no intuitive.

When my dad got a mac, he was telling me how great they are and how in 20 minutes you're up and running and on the internet. Well, 2 hours later he was looking for a community college class so he could learn how to use his "intuitive" mac....
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stonebobbo
Posted 2009-08-28 12:27 PM (#401087 - in reply to #401051)
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I'm still working on setting the clock on my VCR.
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-08-28 1:16 PM (#401088 - in reply to #401051)
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Originally posted by stonebobbo:
clock on my VCR.
:eek: My 8-track don't have one of dem!
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-08-28 2:37 PM (#401089 - in reply to #401051)
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moody, p.i. observes:
My wife has a mac, I have a pc. I've never thought her computer was easy to operate. Once you KNOW how to do something on it, it becomes easy. Figuring out out to do something on it is a different story. They are no intuitive.
Amen!

The woman down the hall from me would often ask me to help her with computer problems.
She recently asked for my help with a Mac laptop that she borrowed from her son.
I could not figure-out how to work the durn thing.
After looking at it for few moments I asked, "This is a Mac, huh?"
At which time I told her that I could do nothing for her.
[After I had finally figured-out how to fix her Vista computer that she had borrowed from her brother]
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mtnbikerfred
Posted 2009-08-28 5:16 PM (#401090 - in reply to #401051)
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You guys did hear about the Macbook didn't you?
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