Adamas slothead 1187-247 on German Ebay
Chris from Yalova
Posted 2009-09-19 1:48 PM (#397603)
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To whom it may concern...

http://cgi.ebay.de/Adamas-slothead-1187-247-komplett-von-Hand-gebau...

Described as re-issue of the Adamas prototype from 1976, made in 2005/06, one of 86...
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Beal
Posted 2009-09-19 2:08 PM (#397604 - in reply to #397603)
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I can't fricken Deutsch but that sure looks like a reissue
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MusicMishka
Posted 2009-09-19 2:14 PM (#397605 - in reply to #397603)
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1 of 87... :rolleyes:

SWMBO reads German: it's Serial number 23...

I am sure he meant to put a price of 3,500 euro.s (4 - 5 Thousand dollars) but he goofed and put the price at 3.5 euros which is about $ 4 - $5...what a bargin for someone...
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Chris from Yalova
Posted 2009-09-19 2:14 PM (#397606 - in reply to #397603)
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I really can´t afford it... but there might be some amongst us who might and would like to. So I just wanted to inform...
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WillaMuse
Posted 2009-09-19 2:30 PM (#397607 - in reply to #397603)
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?????????? $4 or $5 ... hundred? Huh?? Who's running for this, and, don't you think once the guy figures out his boo boo he'll pull the listing? YIKES! I once accidently bid $5,000 on a $50 item, but of course having realized what I'd done, I retracted my bid with no problem ... Evilbay ... Evilbarf ... love/hate ...

:o
Willa
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MusicMishka
Posted 2009-09-19 2:32 PM (#397608 - in reply to #397603)
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Here is the guitar on Jerome's site:
#23
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G8r
Posted 2009-09-19 2:58 PM (#397609 - in reply to #397603)
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Originally posted by MusicMishka:
I am sure he meant to put a price of 3,500 euro.s (4 - 5 Thousand dollars) but he goofed and put the price at 3.5 euros which is about $ 4 - $5...what a bargin for someone...
European convention for numerals is opposite of ours. Our comma is their period, and vice versa. He didn't goof.
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WillaMuse
Posted 2009-09-19 3:20 PM (#397610 - in reply to #397603)
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Holy cow, Batman! Phew! I was gonna offer him $100, lol!

;)
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MusicMishka
Posted 2009-09-19 3:26 PM (#397611 - in reply to #397603)
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Serge, you're right: I checked with the wife...she said her head was swimming for months after she came here with all the differences...I can't figure it out but thats the way it is...
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WillaMuse
Posted 2009-09-19 5:50 PM (#397612 - in reply to #397603)
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As ususual I feel REALLY stupid!

:(
Willa
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TAFKAR
Posted 2009-09-19 6:23 PM (#397613 - in reply to #397603)
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And now we're clear it's 4,000 euro: Ouch!!
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-09-19 7:34 PM (#397614 - in reply to #397603)
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That is only $5,884.52 (today) plus Shipping... Whaddadeal!

[and the auction ain't over]
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Gallerinski
Posted 2009-09-19 11:17 PM (#397615 - in reply to #397603)
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11. Nice guitar.
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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2009-09-20 12:26 PM (#397616 - in reply to #397603)
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Ralph's a member here as well - and used to be a longtime endorser for Musik Meyer and Ovation in Germany.

He did the music on the german Ovation homepage (that now is gone - with Musik Meyer no longer being the distributor for KMC) and has/had some very special guitars.

I got my Book bass from him as new as it could be.

Sure, this '47 is not a bargain overseas, but how often do you see them for sale?

Best regards,
Kurt
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MusicMishka
Posted 2009-09-20 1:39 PM (#397617 - in reply to #397603)
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A very special guitar...
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Miguel - BR
Posted 2009-09-20 2:33 PM (#397618 - in reply to #397603)
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It is a reissue. These are some excerpts of the text (sorry, my German is very rusty):

34 prototipes (serial numbers 27-61) were handmade before the beggining of series production. Some Guitar Stars had access to these guitars, like Paul McCartney, Marcel Dadi, Nancy Wilson, Cat Stevens, Neil Diamond.

The best guitar in this preseries was Nr 47, that Charlie Kaman kept for himself.


To celebrate the 30th Jubileum of the Adamas Guitars, Ovation made in 2005/6 an exact replica of the Adamas 47, hence the model number includes 247 on it.
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Gallerinski
Posted 2009-09-20 3:44 PM (#397619 - in reply to #397603)
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Originally posted by Miguel - BR:
The best guitar in this preseries was Nr 47, that Charlie Kaman kept for himself.
47 might or might not have been the best ... but it makes for good marketing spoo.
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bburg
Posted 2009-09-20 3:46 PM (#397620 - in reply to #397603)
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Hi Miguel-BR

your German is very good!
Your translation is perfect!

Bernie (from Germany)
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bburg
Posted 2009-09-20 3:58 PM (#397621 - in reply to #397603)
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Hey Guy's,

what's a real value for it?
Is 4000€ (about 5500$) OK??

Bernie
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MusicMishka
Posted 2009-09-20 5:08 PM (#397622 - in reply to #397603)
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marketing spoo +1 (but it sounds good)

Reissues are very nice guitars...(unless you're Cliff)...lol
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Gallerinski
Posted 2009-09-20 7:13 PM (#397623 - in reply to #397603)
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Originally posted by bburg:
Hey Guy's, what's a real value for it?
Is 4000€ (about 5500$) OK??
In The US $5000-$6000.
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Miguel - BR
Posted 2009-09-21 1:41 PM (#397624 - in reply to #397603)
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Originally posted by bburg:
Hi Miguel-BR

your German is very good!
Your translation is perfect!

Bernie (from Germany)
Danke. It´s been a loooong time since my German classes (15 years, maybe). And I don´t have a chance to practice, except reading something here and there.
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WillaMuse
Posted 2009-09-21 2:12 PM (#397625 - in reply to #397603)
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Those guitars have magic built in ... I still can't believe I own one (thank you SO much, Vision) ... it's my very, very, VERY favorite!

;)
Willa
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Ralph-Flinn
Posted 2009-09-22 5:37 AM (#397626 - in reply to #397603)
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SOLD!
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bburg
Posted 2009-09-22 1:18 PM (#397627 - in reply to #397603)
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Hi Miguel-BR,

That's OK. I've learned English 35 years ago at school. And so I hope, you all understand what I mean in my posts here. If there were great mistakes, please feel free to tell it to me.

Bernie
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2009-09-22 1:34 PM (#397628 - in reply to #397603)
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Bernie,
As with many of our Germany posters, your English is better than that of many of us Americans. Don't be shy. The only thing I was able to teach Karl when I was over there was that our Ws are not pronounced like our Vs. I studied German 40 years ago in school and I couldn't even begin to speak or write any coherent sentences, except if I needed to order beer.
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Charlie Ramon
Posted 2009-09-22 2:38 PM (#397629 - in reply to #397603)
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From what I've heared is that the guitar stays in Germany. Bernie, did you grab it?

Karl
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2009-09-22 3:57 PM (#397630 - in reply to #397603)
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I can double that, Mark. Based on my recent trip to a number of countries in Europe, no matter how hard we tried to speak their language (pick one, any one), they answered back in English. Their ability to speak English is 1,000% better that our ability to speak their native languages.
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Waskel
Posted 2009-09-22 4:02 PM (#397631 - in reply to #397603)
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Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
I couldn't even begin to speak or write any coherent sentences, except if I needed to order beer.
...and then, not for long...
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2009-09-22 4:19 PM (#397632 - in reply to #397603)
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I also noticed that the Germans, especially, would often proclaim that their English was not good, but once they heard my German, we'd agree that their English was very good.
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Miguel - BR
Posted 2009-09-22 4:30 PM (#397633 - in reply to #397603)
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Originally posted by bburg:
Hi Miguel-BR,

That's OK. I've learned English 35 years ago at school. And so I hope, you all understand what I mean in my posts here. If there were great mistakes, please feel free to tell it to me.

Bernie
How can I be the judge of that? As Iffy pointed out when we met on G8r´s: my accent is VERY THICK, but he could understand.
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WillaMuse
Posted 2009-09-22 7:57 PM (#397634 - in reply to #397603)
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CONGRATULATIONS on your sale, Ralph ... you're going to miss her ...



;)
Willa
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Ralph-Flinn
Posted 2009-09-23 2:44 AM (#397635 - in reply to #397603)
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Thanks Willa...maybe I will miss her sometime. But the last two years she was stored in her case.
I'm playing all my other guitars constantly on stage an it's no problem for me if they get scratched or get a ding on top. (Except 1187)
1187-247 was a holy thing for me - and more a collectors guitar than a players guitar.
I like to have "patina" on my guitars :-) I use them but do not abuse them!
1680 is my favourite Adamas followed by my old 1687. 1688 is without doubt the best 12-String to me.
My absolute best wooden-box ist my Gibson J-50. Followed by a J-45.

So, theres a lot of stuff left ... an my pillow will stay dry at night ;-)

Ralf
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sycamore
Posted 2009-09-23 10:15 AM (#397636 - in reply to #397603)
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Originally posted by G8r:
Originally posted by MusicMishka:
I am sure he meant to put a price of 3,500 euro.s (4 - 5 Thousand dollars) but he goofed and put the price at 3.5 euros which is about $ 4 - $5...what a bargin for someone...
European convention for numerals is opposite of ours. Our comma is their period, and vice versa. He didn't goof.
But not all Europe - in Irl and UK, 3,O00 is three thousand and 3.000 is three. Wonder if you'd win if you challenged it
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sypolog
Posted 2009-09-24 6:38 AM (#397637 - in reply to #397603)
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We British have never quite got the hang of describing ourselves as being in Europe. We drive on the other side of the road, use our own currency and use a random mix of metric and imperial measures.

Ireland (where SWMBO originates) is increasingly aligning with mainland Europe. They do speeds and distances in km now as well as using the Euro currency.

I always smile at (US-made) computer programs that ask me to choose between English and British English as a language option...
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bburg
Posted 2009-10-18 11:13 AM (#397638 - in reply to #397603)
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Hallo Karl,

entschuldige, ich habe diesen Post eben erst wieder gefunden.
Ich habe sie leider nicht gekauft, sie war mir etwas zu teuer und ich bin nicht der "Überspieler", ich könnte sie gar nicht ausschöpfen. Darum bin auch auf der anderen Seite froh, daß Meuti die FD14 bekommen hat. Er kann wahrscheinlich viel besser spielen als ich und "Nice to have" ist die eine Seite.
Ich habe mir jetzt einige Oldtimer gekauft, die ich mir aufgearbeitet habe und freue mich darüber, wenn so am klimpern bin, daß mir der Klang gefällt, so wie ich sie besaitet habe.
Frage: wo wohnst Du? Ich würde Dich gerne einmal kennenlernen.

Herzliche Grüße

Bernie
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Meuti
Posted 2009-10-18 12:00 PM (#397639 - in reply to #397603)
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Bernie, let me translate this for those here, that can only order a beer in Germany :D

*starting translation*

Hello Karl,

sorry, I have just found this thread again.
I didn't buy her. She was a bit too expensive and I am not the "Super-(Guitar)-Player", I wouldn't be able to give her all she deserves. That's why I am happy on one hand, that Meuti got the FD14 (thank you Bernie *Meuti). He probably can play her much better than me (thank you Bernie :D *blushing Meuti) and just a "nice to have" is another thing.

I have recently bought a couple of Oldtimers, that I renewed and I'm happy to hear them sound good when I play around with them.
(...)
*translation end*

I hope I got it quite right.
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Charlie Ramon
Posted 2009-10-18 1:22 PM (#397640 - in reply to #397603)
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Hi Bernie,
thanks for your nice post. I live in the Nuremberg area. Whenever you cross this region you can pop in. Maybe it's time for another OFC meeting in Germany. We had an European OFC meeting in 2007 (pictues are here ) at my house. Would be fun to have another one next year.

Karl
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bburg
Posted 2009-10-18 11:49 PM (#397641 - in reply to #397603)
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Hallo Meuti,
Thank you for the translation, it is nearly perfect, I can't wright that better in english ( good joke..or?)
You have seen it in my signature, that I've catched a 1614 (I've send it to you in the thread of the 1624)? Great sound, I'm very happy with it.

Bernie
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Meuti
Posted 2009-10-19 2:34 AM (#397642 - in reply to #397603)
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:D Very good, Bernie :D I'm glad you finally got one!

@Karl - I like the idea of a meeting in Germany. Lets keep it in mind.
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bburg
Posted 2009-10-19 12:35 PM (#397643 - in reply to #397603)
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I also find that a very good idea with that meeting here in Germany.

Bernie
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bburg
Posted 2009-10-19 12:49 PM (#397644 - in reply to #397603)
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Hi Karl,
your pictures from the meeting are extremely nice. I think, that you're have had a lot of fun.

Bernie
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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2009-10-19 8:46 PM (#397645 - in reply to #397603)
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Yep, meeting! Let's make a garage sale out of it!

I need space for new projects!

Best regards,
Kurt
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