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Location: Tennessee | Wow. I can't believe these guys are still at it. I saw them at least ten years ago ... and it was indeed a great show. Very good costuming as they covered the entire career from Ed Sullivan to the rooftop concert. Authentic instruments too.
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | There was a big writeup about them in the paper here.
I thought about going but I have seen 2 Beatle tribute bands that were supposed to be really really good and I thought they both sucked.
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Location: New Hampshire, USA | I've seen 1964 The Tribute a number of times. They're great, but they only cover songs from the touring years. They dress the part, and talk to the crowd with the accents and they're very funny.
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | Let's see...Spam never goes bad because it was never any good to begin with. Elixers don't go dead because they were already dead when you took them out of the package. And Beatles tribute bands don't sound any worse than the original... |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Originally posted by CanterburyStrings:
Let's see...Spam never goes bad because it was never any good to begin with. Elixers don't go dead because they were already dead when you took them out of the package. And Beatles tribute bands don't sound any worse than the original... Thank you for putting my thoughts into words :)
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Location: everywhere | Tribute bands are generally made up of good to great musicians, who decide to take the easy way to a fast buck. There have also figured that the vast majority of the consumers out there are thick as pigcrap and it's easier to earn a living by serving them easy-to-handle pre-digested mush, than be creative with something original. It's kinda like giving your kids McDonalds or KFC instead of letting learn how good real food is, and ultimately it's just as unhealthy. Regardless of how authentic a tribute band may look or sound, it's like buying an Applause when you really want an Adamas. Or a Taylor when you want a musical instrument. I hope they all die slow horrible deaths. |
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | CR, except for your last sentence, I agree 100 percent. As far as slow, horrible deaths though, that would cause them to scream - come to think of it, no one would probably be able to tell the difference. Scream of agony or their version of someone elses song? |
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Location: New Hampshire, USA | Wow - why all the hate for the tribute bands?
There's obviously a market for these bands - why blame the bands for meeting that market, especially when so many of them do a great job and everyone goes home happy?
I'm just a few years too young to have seen the Beatles live (I was a one year old when they debuted on Sullivan). If the closest I can come is seeing a band like 1964 (or Rain, or any other good tribute band), I'm happy they're out there doing it. Certainly not "the real thing", but fun just the same. |
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Location: Michigan | easy does it , most of us play everybody elses music and some of us make their living at it.they may not just emulate one band but a bunch of different ones.does that make them a tribute band of all sorts.your ripping on some musicians that make a living playing songs and emulating their acts that they know people will pay to see & hear them play , whats wrong with that?
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | At least they're not busking (NTTIAWWT!)... :p
I'd break my left ankle to be good enough to play in a tribute band and put grits on da table. I've got too much invested in the right one. Oh, wait, never mind... I'll stay as a wannabe wank... and buy the cheap tickets!  |
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | Sorry. I just think people should be themselves. There's nothing wrong with doing covers, but I think they should play the music their OWN way instead of trying to sound exactly like someone else. If you want to hear the Beatles, buy their records. If you want to see them, look at a video. If you want to see a bunch of people with skill (notice I didn't say talent) pretending to be somebody else, go ahead and spend your money. I would much rather see people with talent (creativity) play covers with their OWN style, or better yet, play their own music period. |
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Location: everywhere | Originally posted by scooterboy:
why blame the bands for meeting that market, especially when so many of them do a great job and everyone goes home happy?
I don't blame the bands for meeting that market. I'm just terminally depressed that such a market even exists. I blame the laziness of the consumer who need to be spoon-fed by the media and can't be bothered to make their own decisions about what is and isn't good music. And I blame cheap tawdry freak-show television like "America's Got Talent" and "X Factor" which perpetuate the myth that the path to fame and fortune is a pair of tits, a make-up artist and a producer who knows how to operate Auto-Tune. Tribute bands are just the thin-end of that wedge.
It all started with Karaoke. The f**king Japs have got a lot to answer for. |
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Location: Bluffton, SC | ...and exactly how is enjoying Rain any different than going to a movie or the stage?
"America's Got Talent" and all the rest? |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | While on same level I agree....
"...which perpetuate the myth that the path to fame and fortune is a pair of tits, a make-up artist and a producer who knows how to operate Auto-Tune."
I think this is FAR from myth. If one has a desire to become famous, and has access to the investment funds... this is EXACTLY how to do it. Do I like it, no... would I do it.. ummm in a minute... would I like myself... no, but I'd buy enough "toys" to deal with it. Is this the ONLY way to "make it" in the music biz... no.. just one of the many, and for those that can manage it... as they say... "it's a living."
"Tribute bands are just the thin-end of that wedge. "
Again.. while that is one way to look at it... I find nothing wrong a group playing "dressup" for people who would like to relive the days gone by for an evening.
What I don't understand is if group of musicians is talented enough to pull off a decent tribute act... why not move toward their own material, or at least material written for them. One obvious answer is they really love what they are doing, and they make a decent living at it.
Now... say what you will about tribute bands, and say what you will about todays pop artists.. but let me see a show of hands... How many of us are doing exactly what we love to do, and are getting paid more money than we could possibly spend in our or our childrens, childrens lifetime to do that one thing we love to do?
People don't go to see little Ms Cyrus or a Beatles Tribute band cause she writes such great music... or they are so much better than John, Paul, George, Ringo and Yoko. They go cause it's FUN!!!! It's only us old farts that are trying to put more meaning and worth into it.. |
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Location: Bluffton, SC | ".. but let me see a show of hands... How many of us are doing exactly what we love to do, and are getting paid more money than we could possibly spend in our or our childrens, childrens lifetime to do that one thing we love to do?"
Hmm, while I totally agree with the overall point, I would also seriously doubt that these characters are getting paid on that level. I think you were closer with "it's a living". |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Yeah the tribute bands are closer to "decent living" the pop stars... they do pretty well for the most part it seems... but you are correct... my point was really more that they are doing what they love and making a good living at it. |
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | I am doing what I love, and making a living. I'll never make more than I can spend in my children's children's lifetime for two reasons - 1)I never had kids ;) , and 2)if I had that much money, I honestly don't know what I would spend it on. Conventional wisdom aside, you really CAN have too many guitars, and that's about the only thing I enjoy spending money on. I could maybe fly a bunch of you out here to see the Hills. Then what would I do with the rest?
But I question whether the people in tribute bands are really doing what they love, or if they hate dressing up and playing the same songs over and over again. The money is good, but it must get old really fast, let alone the frustration any good musician must feel knowing that his OWN music, no matter how good it is, can't earn him the kind of money that these tired old hits from yesteryear do. |
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Location: Michigan | i would think that most bands ( all of them ) started out playing someone elses tunes and that they probably have their own music .if their own music doesn't get accepted very well when they are playing out and the tribute tunes get great acceptance then what are you going to do to make your living?
i would think that most tribute bands of the caliber of rain would all have their own music.GWB |
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | Like I said, I don't think there's anything wrong with doing covers. We all had to start somewhere. But if my own music couldn't earn me a living, I would get a job rather than do this tribute band stuff. Hey, that's just me. If these people can stand getting in costume and playing the same stuff night after night, and if people are willing to pay them, well, go for it. But I just couldn't respect anyone who values money over musical integrity. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | There are talented people in every profession that never make it big. I always thought it was just bad luck, but CR just made me realize that it's because I don't have tits. I actually noticed during puberty that I didn't like Country Western singers, but the women were sure well endowed.
Now there's shredders and rappers and all those that I don't understand. I can cuss as well as any of them, but nobody paid me to rhyme with duck. And speaking of uck, Elvis impersonators all suck, and I've never been an Elvis fan.
Frankly, we wouldn't be on this board if we didn't want to play just like somebody. If people liked the originals enough to like the imitators, fine. I sometimes have liked the remakes of old movies better than the originals. Maybe I'd like a tribute band better than I liked the Beatles. |
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Location: south east Michigan | I was at an office party where a "Tribute to Elvis" guy was the entertainment.
The guy himself was sad enough but it was the reactions of the "women" in the crowd that was the sadist. |
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Location: Bluffton, SC | "but it was the reactions of the "women" in the crowd that was the sadist."
I think you might mean "saddest", Mr Frued. |
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | That's right Weaser, those women were MASOCHISTS. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | " Maybe I'd like a tribute band better than I liked the Beatles."
I think that was the point CS and I were eluding to earlier. The more I think about it, eventhough I'm not really into the Beatles much... a tribute might be kinda fun cause it would covers material in one night, that it was unlikely the Beatles actually did in the same night. The best of the best if you will.
I played Bass for a couple of Elvis shows this guy back east used to do. Some of the easiest, most fun gigs I ever. What a hoot. The guy didn't really look like Elvis, but he sure got into character and the women went nuts!!! Thanks for stimulating that memory. What a hoot... the pay wasn't bad either as I recall.
I was a Bass player in a 50's band for a few years too. Not exactly a tribute to any particular group... but again.. people who show up to a 50's band come to dance and party. You'd have to work pretty hard to screw it up, and you'd have to be a stone to not have fun.
So... completely off-topic.. I'm going to see KISS next month, and we purposely got the nose-bleed seats cause... well.. we know what they look like after all these years and I think we'd just prefer to "experience" it and not let "reality" ruin it. |
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| Saw the Arrogant comment about Tribute bands and the slow deaths they should die............had to comment....
That was very narrow minded statement and less than fair.
For guy's like me who are musicians who have ideas but are not the top of the ladder as far as understanding theory having great music industry connections, or having perfect chops at a young age and meeting a few other guy's and writting hits first time out.....for the rest of us the normal way to get a good name with a band is to cover other band materials. If you write Country Music you will be smart to cover other famous country musicians work and use your ability to cover material well enough to be considered at "Tribute Band Level" this is not easy to do. And then introduce your own material to people who love the style and you stabnd a good chance of getting somewhere. (in todays market there ain't much there anyway)
I am currently in a band that is going to be breaking into the difficult and long lost genre of Classic Prog Rock from bands such as Yes, Pink Floyd, Genesis, Rush, UK, King Crimson, etc. We have some originals worked out almost well enough to finally record but with a band like ours that has no well known name and little money to force any promotion or gain the attention of any label. We plan to do some leg work and hit some festivals and perhaps some tribute band level shows of these famous early masters of this genre to showcase our originals and let the audience see and the (promoters or whomever may be interested see) the level we are at and perhaps they will understand the musicianship it has taken to write what we have and where we are coming from.
If our music is not accepted very well well at least this group of musicians has tried as best they can do do the original route the best way we could. If all we end up doing is continuing on as a cover band that does tribute level covers of these super famous and super well written pieces of music then so be it. We love the music and if there are people who want to see it who is anyone to judge that.
Any sane person or anyone even crazy people who are musician's at all can respect an effort like this. Only those with jealousy or a serious case of ignorance or some deep seeded bitterness would feel this is a crime to music and not worthy of an audience.
I've been to a few tribute bands concerts and they were very interesting, Most of the time these guy's are very good musicians and play at a level that is well worthy of my ticket price. And it is fun to see someone who can play or sing well enough to "Pay Tribute" to the original masters creations.
Wish me luck, don't wish for my slow death.... I am just a self taught musician trying my damdest to do some very difficult music. We have enough people who make this difficult as it is. If you have not formed, worked with and performed with a group of guys before and tried to produce anything.....covers or originals..... then keep your nasty thoughts to yourself as they are foolish. If you have done this then don't be an arrogant ass about it.
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Location: south east Michigan | Easy Randy.. easy... I think you're on a completly different page. It's one thing to play the music of a classic band, it's quite another to dress up in costumes of the era and pretend that you acually are the classic band.
It's one thing to pretend to be the band, or Elvis, but the sad thing is seeing people in the audience reacting like they are watching the originals.
That said, I think I might enjoy seeing a well honed, professional group like RAIN. Just to hear the music, played live, and done well would be nice. The costumes and the imatations of the mannerisms would be secondary.
I've seen some horrible WHO tribute bands on YouTube. Wanna-be Townsends in white jumpsuits and all.
And even after a number of years the memory of seeing those "women" doing the scarf thing with the fake Elvis is really, really creepy. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Maybe my logic it too simple, but I figure if you've got enough talent to play and pass off as someone ELSE (beatles, zeppelin, floyd, whatever) then you've probably got enough talent to make something on YOUR OWN. Just a thought. |
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Location: Boston | Originally posted by Slipkid:
[QB] ... It's one thing to play the music of a classic band, it's quite another to dress up in costumes of the era and pretend that you acually are the classic band.
/QB] Anyone who has seen Beatlejuice (particularly with the late-great Brad Delp) can attest to that. No costumes, no pretense. "Just two things to know; All Beatles, All Night".
A bunch of really talented musicians lovingly playing some amazing music with a modern PA system. I daresay they sound far better then the Beatles ever did. Highly recommended!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMKspv27CR8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YF34JLRs2s
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Location: Yucaipa, California | quite another to dress up in costumes of the era and pretend that you acually are the classic band.
...kinda reminds me of all those Civil War re-enactors...
Maybe my logic it too simple, but I figure if you've got enough talent to play and pass off as someone ELSE (beatles, zeppelin, floyd, whatever) then you've probably got enough talent to make something on YOUR OWN. ...couldn't agree more. Use your talent to create your music.
I remember that when I was in the saloon band (Medicine Springs Band) in Hot Springs (hi Alison!), the audience only wanted to hear the "Top 10" hits and EXACTLY as recorded. We had no chance to play OUR music at all. We pandered to what they wanted.... and we went away frustrated..... but we got paid. |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by Gallerinski:
Maybe my logic it too simple, but I figure if you've got enough talent to play and pass off as someone ELSE (beatles, zeppelin, floyd, whatever) then you've probably got enough talent to make something on YOUR OWN. Just a thought. Maybe it is too simple, Dave.
How many operas did Pavarotti compose?
How many classic plays did Olivier write?
Not everyone who has the talent to play has the talent to write.
Or on the other hand... you could be right, and Rain does have enough talent to make their own music... but they choose to do what they're doing because they enjoy it. I guess that's not enough to earn some people's respect because it doesn't fall into line with their opinion of 'musical integrity'. Too bad.
On the third hand, they are making a name for themselves, and if/when they do decide to start doing original music, they may already have a foot in the door. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Sorry, I didn't necessarily mean WRITE. Go play cover tunes, I do it all the time. But I don't dress up and try to pass myself off as James Taylor or CSN&Y. Btw, yes Pavarotti sang other peoples compositions, but he didn't try to pass himself off as Wagner himself.
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Location: closely held secret | Sorry, I interpreted "enough talent to make something on YOUR OWN." to mean composing original material as opposed to playing the "tired" old stuff.
C'mon... it's show business...
You have too much hair and you're not tall enough to pass yourself off as Taylor. Nash, maybe... |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by Gallerinski:
Bring back my old Waskel. 10. Bite Me.
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Ah, this is the tension that has haunted artists throughout history. Do you create art (e.g., music) that appeals to the masses and eat, or do you make it for yourself and go hungry? For some artists, success means starting with the former and, for those who are really good, lucky and financially secure, working into the latter. Most never get that far, or if and when they do, their definition of success is not necessarily financially-based. |
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | A cover that I like better than the original is Joe Cocker's "She Came in Through the Bathroom Window". Now here's a man who is paying "tribute" to the Beatles by performing one of their songs. He must like it if he's doing it, right? But he is also being true to himself musically, by doing it his own way. That's what I mean when I say doing covers is fine. And if you don't write, there's nothing wrong with doing nothing BUT covers. But to try to sound exactly like the original is boring to the performer and I would think to a lot of folks in the audience. Not all of them maybe, but a lot. We are all INFLUENCED by musicians who came before us. It's how we learned. If James Taylor is one of the people you like best and he influences your music, fine. I would rather hear a James Taylor influence in your version of "Sgt. Pepper" than to hear you trying to sound like Paul McCartney. Be who you ARE. I'd rather hear a meadowlark than a parrot. And if you can't sing like a meadowlark, sing like a robin. (But if you sing like a turkey, take Frank's advice and "shut up and play yer guitar." :D |
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by CanterburyStrings:
But to try to sound exactly like the original is boring to the performer and I would think to a lot of folks in the audience. Not all of them maybe, but a lot. Apparently it's so boring that people pay money knowing exactly what they're going to see and hear. Just like people going to hear some country-western act that sounds like every other one before them.
You don't know what might or might be boring to another performer. Speaking for you, if you would find it boring (obviously you would), fine, don't do it and don't go see the show. But don't judge how others feel based on how you feel.
Some performers might take a great deal of pride in hitting that note just right so that it sounds exactly like McCartney. I'll wager it's not that easy.
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Location: Vernon CT | Hey all, To each his own!
Personally, I admire a musician who can replicate a song exactly. That's talent! I also enjoy covers that are of an artist own interputation. Thats creativity!. Why can't we coexist! :D ;) |
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | Well, I don't think anyone can look at any topic without their opinions coloring their ideas. That's what makes us human as opposed to robots. I have stated my opinion, and others have stated theirs. They are not necessarily the same and that's OK. I'm sorry if I insulted anyone. I meant no offense to any of you personally. But in my OPINION, anyone who has the craft and skill to impersonate another artist will only earn my RESPECT by putting that craft and skill to what I think is better use. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | "But to try to sound exactly like the original is boring to the performer "
As someone else mentioned... that's an extreme assumption. Of the tribute acts I have known... they live, eat and breath what they do. They love it. They like what they do... they wouldn't have it any other way.
It's funny cause I didn't really have much respect for "tribute" acts as such until this thread came about and I thought about it. Having the talent to pull off the performance is one thing... but the desire to commit to it, is a whole 'nother level.
I don't think I could ever bring myself to go see an Elvis impersonator.... Heck... I wouldn't have gone to see Elvis.. just don't get it.. never have. I don't think I have one Elvis album or CD, unless it was on a compilation of something else... but if offered a gig to be in the Elvis tribute band to back an impersonator... My response would be... when and where? There are several others ,but we were picking on Elvis so I'll stick with that theme.
As I was recently re-reminded of... Sometimes it's NOT about making great music, sometimes it's NOT about talent, sometimes it's NOT about being famous, sometimes it's NOT about getting paid... Sometimes... it's just about HAVING FUN !!!! After all, that's why it's called PLAYING music... And from a business sense.. It's a tried and true philosophy. If you are HAVING FUN doing what you enjoy, you will do it well, and you will be successful. |
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Location: Vernon CT | Originally posted by CanterburyStrings:
Well, I don't think anyone can look at any topic without their opinions coloring their ideas. That's what makes us human as opposed to robots. I have stated my opinion, and others have stated theirs. They are not necessarily the same and that's OK. I'm sorry if I insulted anyone. I meant no offense to any of you personally. But in my OPINION, anyone who has the craft and skill to impersonate another artist will only earn my RESPECT by putting that craft and skill to what I think is better use. I still and will always love you Alison! :) |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Music is art. People have different opinions about it. Intentional or not, this thread called for opinions. It would be boring if we all shared the same opinion, or even worse if we had none. I brought up Elvis because he seemed to have a cult following of impersonators and was probably the most extreme example. We had a secretary here whose husband was one. They even styled their son's hair like Elvis and bought him Elvis clothes. Then they moved to Vegas, but Dad never made any money at it. Although I might have a tiny bit of respect for a good Elvis impersonator, I don't have any for someone who isn't any good and doesn't give up and get a real job to support his family.
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | Mark, I am just extremely lucky. I have offended some people by running my mouth, but I hope they know I mean no harm. I guess I am just very opinionated.
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BTW... I read over on the WHO forum that a tribute band in New York is looking for a new "Roger". |
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Location: Michigan | i am not into country music at all but are their any country tribute bands that have ever reached the status of a tribute 64 or rain band :confused: i cant seem to ever of heard of a touring country tribute band , but that may be because i don't listen to much country. GWB |
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| Did anyone see the bit that was done some time ago on CBS Sunday morning on tribute bands? There was a guy on there that looked remarkably like Bruce Springsteen.
It seems that this guy was in a band that was doing covers/originals and he kept getting asked to do Bruce Springsteen stuff. He really didn't want to be a Bruce Springsteen imitator.
I feel that if you have the money, you should go and see the original artist.
Unfortunately, the ticket prices for some original artists are so high that the tribute bands have become a way for most people to experience the original artist's music live.
For some tribute bands, this would be their "day job" and some probably have other kinds of music that they do on the side.
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Location: MA | I feel that if you have the money, you should go and see the original artist. I have quite a bit of money and would like to see the Beatles in concert. Could you help me out with that?
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Rain: A tribute show to the Beatles