Dead Sounding String?
bvince
Posted 2009-10-03 11:14 AM (#395778)
Subject: Dead Sounding String?



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The fret buzz post reminded me of this other annoyance I have experienced...

On my Adamas II the low E string doesn't seem to ring out like the others. It seems to be slightly dead sounding, like it is very lightly dampened. I can't see anything obvious on the nut and I have put a new saddle on the guitar. Any Ideas as to what's going on?
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AlanM
Posted 2009-10-03 11:50 AM (#395779 - in reply to #395778)
Subject: Re: Dead Sounding String?


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GREAT question!

I have the same problem with my OFC II right now. Just cropped up a few weeks ago. It's not the case with any of my other 2080's, so I'm waiting to see what happens when I change the strings before I panic.

I'm eagerly awaiting the response of those more knowledgeable than I on this! MWoody, Al, Beal...you guys HAVE to know what's going on here.
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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2009-10-03 12:30 PM (#395780 - in reply to #395778)
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While you were sleeping, someone snuck into the house and put an Elixer on! :eek: :D
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Waskel
Posted 2009-10-03 4:31 PM (#395781 - in reply to #395778)
Subject: Re: Dead Sounding String?



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Alison, that's not a very helpful post. I thought we were supposed to help or stay quiet?

Vince (and Alan), I've had that happen to me before, and it's always been one of two things (not to say there couldn't be other causes).
Either my string was just dead (yes, it happens with new, out of the package strings sometimes), or the nut was cut too deep, cut too narrow, or the bottom of the cut was angled the wrong way, allowing the sides of the cut to 'mute' the string.
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TAFKAR
Posted 2009-10-03 4:56 PM (#395782 - in reply to #395778)
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If it still does it when you fret the string, then it is not the nut.
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Waskel
Posted 2009-10-03 4:59 PM (#395783 - in reply to #395778)
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Good point, Richard, forgot to mention that.
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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2009-10-03 5:00 PM (#395784 - in reply to #395778)
Subject: Re: Dead Sounding String?


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OK, Waskel, I think you're intelligent enough to know what I was talking about, but perhaps you should read it again. Joking around with members who have been here for years is not the same as insulting and disrespecting newbies who ask innocent questions. I think you know that.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-10-03 5:10 PM (#395785 - in reply to #395778)
Subject: Re: Dead Sounding String?



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Uh... Does the string sound dead plugged-in as well as acoustically?
Are there shims under there? (I made you say 'underwear' :p )

I had it happen to me that the shim did not properly support a saddle.
I noticed it more when it was plugged-in, but that was my problem. I made new shims.

But first, I would just try another string.

[This conversation has went-out without your input, Vince. Let us know how it works out]
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Waskel
Posted 2009-10-03 5:17 PM (#395786 - in reply to #395778)
Subject: Re: Dead Sounding String?



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Originally posted by CanterburyStrings:
Joking around with members who have been here for years is not the same as insulting and disrespecting newbies who ask innocent questions.
May I ask when I've ever done that?
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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2009-10-03 5:35 PM (#395787 - in reply to #395778)
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I never said YOU did it. If you remember, I was talking about the trolls.
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Trader Jim
Posted 2009-10-03 6:04 PM (#395788 - in reply to #395778)
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I believe John and Richard nailed it. If it only happens when played open, it could be the nut is cut with a slight backward angle, that is taller at the tuner end than the fretboard end, the string will be dampened slightly. Sounds kind of like after you wipe the strings off with a rag, and a bit of fuzz ends up stuck to the string. I had this issue with an 06 collector, and the factory put a new nut on it to solve the problem. You may be able to file it to make it right if there's enough meat left.
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AlanM
Posted 2009-10-03 6:50 PM (#395789 - in reply to #395778)
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For me, it happens only on the open string, which, I think reduces it down to the nut. Vince? How 'bout you?
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bvince
Posted 2009-10-04 7:04 AM (#395790 - in reply to #395778)
Subject: Re: Dead Sounding String?



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Ahhh ... I DID notice when upgrading my electronics that the(under saddle)shim had an extra piece of shim (about a half inch) glued on to the lower end side. That MAY be the culprit, as it could have created a weak-contact point under that area of the saddle. I have extra shims, so I guess I'll need to pull the strings and the current shim and try something different.

(btw, it does happen whether fretted or unfretted)

Good Suggestions - THANKS!
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